And yet they are made in Thailand whether they get called ninjas in the market the are being exported to or not. The hyosung isn't made in japan either so I don't get what the guy was trying to say.
Kawasaki quality control is not a joke. They could manufacture stuff in dharavi and yet make top quality stuff

Tell me one thing- N650R's riding position is rear sets with comfortable handlebars, right? Can't you change its "tube type" handlebars to one from some other bike to make it sporty? And then, rear sets are already rear?

Like Sunny ji said, Ninja being a city bike/ tourer, can be modified to some extent for sport riding, and GT being a racetrack friendly machine, can be modified to some extent for touring.
You just need to find your major usage. Mine certainly won't be racetrack usage...

That's why Ninja is coming for me, once Kawasaki starts booking again, without putting wtf- conditions. Let their demand settle.

yes. possible. there are a few "clipon" handlebars for the N5650R.

+1.

A little known fact that some parts on the Ninja 250R and 650R are locally manufactured but all these products get tested under stringent conditions before they pass QC.

Meters are made by Pricol, cables by some Indian co., switchgear is also made locally. Thats how the pricing is kept under control.... and the quality is still top notch.

P.S. Confirmed to me by one of the senior folks in Bajaj.

Have ridden both bikes, the faired N650R abroad and the GT650R in India. I think comparing them is silly because they are two very different kinds of bikes.

One's a wanna-be sports ( I say this because I've ridden other sports 600's before and I'm sorry to say the Korean has a long way to go before it can even attempt to make the cut) and the other is an established international staple - an all-rounder, though I personally wouldn't want to take it to the track.

To compare them simply because they have similar engine capacity and on-road pricing is childish, since they are built for very different purposes. The only reason I can think of wanting to buy the Hyosung would be because I simply didn't have another choice for a sports 600 (legal) and in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king!

I'm pretty sure that if the ZX6R was launched at even 2L higher than the Korean, they would still eat into the Hyosung numbers.

Fortunately for me, my requirement at the moment is a mile-munching highway bike for relaxed riding and I think the N650R fits the bill nicely. I'd say the individual choice of buyers are dictated by their desires and needs - of course we can't account for dolts who have the naivete to base their decision merely on appearances.

exactly zx6r is really a killer.

I have one question by the way. Who's braking is better?? GT650R or Ninja 650r??

Another question, do anyone of them have "slipper clutch"?

GT650R brakes are better as per online reviews.

The review/comparo should have really answered this question and I am surprised how no one even bothered to ask this before. Both bikes do 200kmph so this question should have been asked alot more number of times IMHO !
No, neither of the bikes have a slipper clutch !

Absolutely correct, Sunnyside, on all counts.

In the Indian scenario, taking a bike to the track is a little lame as there are very few of them around town. So, the GT650 will most likely, IMO, be used as a poser by rich kids picking up chicks and to attempt a premature meeting with their Maker.

The N650, on the other hand is definitely a much more useable bike. Very few aspiring owners bother to check the long-term implication of the forward lean angle on these bikes and rue their decision later.

I have a CBR 250R which I rode from Pune to Rajkot. It was an experience, made more painful than warranted by the lean angle. I have posted a small review of the bike in the Tourer section. If I sell my CeeBee prematurely, it will be for this single reason.

All GT droolers, PLEASE check the riding position - it is NOT as comfortable after 200 kms on the highway as it seems to be after 2 mins in the showroom.

For the mile munchers like me, save up for the N650 or others of its ilk...:-)

icemang--try changing your postions a bit & see if it helps.
I too had initial hiccups.riding the CBR for 1500 kms for past 3 days I am not gettng killed & the pain has reduced to the usual one of munching many miles on any motorcycle.
will post a detailed review too in ownership thread after coming back.

Not neccesarily. I am not a Rich Man's KID or the one of whom you have mentioned.. Still I opted for GT because of the reason that I am more oriented to super-sport styling and like sunny mentioned, there arent much options available. Even if the ZX6R was launched I wouldn't be able to afford it(Gonna be a min of 2 laks more which I dont think I can).

Even though you cannot directly compare a super-sport to the GT, yet a super-sport style of bike with good power/affordable/not so difficult to maintain(like the I4s) is the GT.

And you say that this bike cannot crunch miles? Heard about the Great Australian Road-Trip by XBHP?

BTW, I am not a big mile cruncher. I drive mostly in and around the city with occasional tour and planning for track(as of now). Thats all.

Few around the town ? There is only one track in the whole of India ! And if we had a few around the town why would it be lame to take a bike there ? You mean it wont be lame only if we had like 10 tracks in and around the city ?
But that should have no bearance on the decision as one wanting a sporty machine SHOULD go for a sporty machine as in their stock form even the supersports are meant for street riding and not track riding alone. More like weekend rides yes. Its just not touring sort of riding which seems to be YOUR type of riding.
Am hating the flak the GT650R is getting here for no apparent reason..yes its not a tourer..omg its not a tourer..but then omg touring is not the only kind of riding either

I want a bike that looks like deepika padukone has assets like paris hilton and has *assets* like Pamela Anderson but should be cheaper than the zandu baam girl to maintain!

Lol buy a bike for what you want to do with the bike, tourer or not, stunting or not, track oriented or not are just excuses. Lame excuses!

i stopped arguing about who's good who's bad ... no matter how many times u tell to ppl ...the result is same .. --> restarted same argument.

what i see here in India is .. it doesn;t matter for which purpose the bike brought .. the ppl will use it for everything .... i mean everything .. from race tracks to ...long rides to.... carry cattle fodder .. either it may be Ninja or R15 .. its all directly related to personal teast and preference.

Here N650R owners can't stay away from tracks .. and GT650R owners from long rides


@uncomfortable riding posintion of GT for long rides .. i have seen ppl taking much sporty R1/R6 for 1000's km ride .. its all one's riding habit and get used to factor

hmmm.. i think the comparo should have explained this too..

thanks for info, even the showroom person from both, Garware motors and Bajaj probiking couldn't tell me that. They both asked me "Slipper Clutch??!! i have heard this thing first time"

So can slipper clutch be installed as a mod??