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The KoJap Dilemma : Ninja 650R vs GT650R

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  • #61
    Originally posted by princesirohi View Post
    ok....but you mean to say at low speeds radiator fan does stops but radiator pump is still running and it is still circulating water/coolant through the engine, only fan is not working.??

    is it like this...
    coolant will start circulating the moment you crank your engine..
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    • #62
      Originally posted by captain koli View Post
      ^^
      hey a quick fact doing a wheely or stoppy puts less strain on bike than doin a burnout where you strain the engine ,tire ,brakes etc...
      Any kind of stunting will put quite a bit of strain on a bike. Land hard from a wheelie and you can have busted fork seals and even a bent rim, damaged forks, shocks etc. Fall while executing these stunts and the damage might be even more.

      Burnouts will lead to excessive strain on the clutch, not to mention the tire too.
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      • #63
        Nice review..
        My choice: GT650R in Red-Black combo

        Congratulations Sunny!!
        When is the delivery expected?

        @All: 145 mm = 5.7 inches
        and 6.5 inches = 165 mm


        OT: The N250R does look the best among the three
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        • #64
          Originally posted by Carlton Figueiredo View Post
          Nice review..
          My choice: GT650R in Red-Black combo

          Congratulations Sunny!!
          When is the delivery expected?

          @All: 145 mm = 5.7 inches
          and 6.5 inches = 165 mm


          OT: The N250R does look the best among the three

          You are right. Ninja 250 better among the three.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by melroyal View Post
            Hi praveen.Not taken it yet to 7,000rpm most of the power delivery comes at 5,000rpm.
            Could you tell me what is the speed in 1st gear at 5k rpm, 2nd gear in 5k rpm, 3rd in 5k rpm and so on. This will help us have a better understanding. Your inputs on this will be really appreciated.

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            • #66
              hey guys, as you were saying earlier that bigger bikes do heat up a lot at slow speeds in traffic because radiator fan remains off.

              can you tell how slow is "slow speed".??
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              • #67
                Originally posted by princesirohi View Post
                hey guys, as you were saying earlier that bigger bikes do heat up a lot at slow speeds in traffic because radiator fan remains off.

                can you tell how slow is "slow speed".??
                don;t know mate ..never ridden any superbikes ... but ..few of yamaha machanics who service the superbikes always says .. in traffic it will toast ur legs .. once they showed me how much heat the engine generates ..after a short ride of R1 .. although i never ridden .. after the bikes stopped .. i have just placed my hand a feet away from the faring [side] slots .. and it literally fries ... u can boil a cup of tea with that much heat
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                • #68
                  Originally posted by princesirohi View Post
                  hey guys, as you were saying earlier that bigger bikes do heat up a lot at slow speeds in traffic because radiator fan remains off.

                  can you tell how slow is "slow speed".??
                  slow speeds can be as "slow" as 50-70kmph too.
                  but the bike will just heat up a lot then. still bearable.

                  it usually gets really bad in any kinda traffic where u have to stay in 1st/2nd gear.

                  i'm not talking about the GT650R or the N650R here.
                  (i've only ridden the GT650R on open roads & i haven't ridden the N650R yet)
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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by xionite View Post
                    slow speeds can be as "slow" as 50-70kmph too.
                    but the bike will just heat up a lot then. still bearable.

                    it usually gets really bad in any kinda traffic where u have to stay in 1st/2nd gear.
                    I couldn't have said it better.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by nagoo View Post
                      don;t know mate ..never ridden any superbikes ... but ..few of yamaha machanics who service the superbikes always says .. in traffic it will toast ur legs .. once they showed me how much heat the engine generates ..after a short ride of R1 .. although i never ridden .. after the bikes stopped .. i have just placed my hand a feet away from the faring [side] slots .. and it literally fries ... u can boil a cup of tea with that much heat
                      thats quite a lot of heat you are saying..

                      Originally posted by xionite View Post
                      slow speeds can be as "slow" as 50-70kmph too.
                      but the bike will just heat up a lot then. still bearable.

                      it usually gets really bad in any kinda traffic where u have to stay in 1st/2nd gear.

                      i'm not talking about the GT650R or the N650R here.
                      (i've only ridden the GT650R on open roads & i haven't ridden the N650R yet)
                      that means to keep them happy, we have to keep them above 100 kmph always, or most of the time, very difficult in indian conditions..
                      that means we can't commute to office on them or do lazy riding l..

                      can someone tell how much heat a N650R generates at slow speeds, coz if that also generates so much heat, how can we call it a tourer if it will toast our legs in slow speeds, which is inevitable and unavoidable in touring.

                      if we are riding slowly for a long time and heat builds up a lot, won't the radiator fan kick in after the heat is increased beyond a point.

                      and does this happen only with fully faired bikes or with naked bikes also.

                      what about accomplished tourers like from BMW and what about harley davidson, or is it that problem is less severe in these bikes because of open engine.
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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by princesirohi View Post
                        can someone tell how much heat a N650R generates at slow speeds, coz if that also generates so much heat, how can we call it a tourer if it will toast our legs in slow speeds, which is inevitable and unavoidable in touring.
                        like is said...
                        Originally posted by xionite View Post
                        i'm not talking about the GT650R or the N650R here.
                        (i've only ridden the GT650R on open roads & i haven't ridden the N650R yet)
                        the heat generated by a parallel-twin is nowhere as severe as an inline-four.

                        Originally posted by princesirohi View Post
                        and does this happen only with fully faired bikes or with naked bikes also.
                        i've ridden alongside a (naked) FZ1 that ran about 8 degrees hotter than a (fully faired) CBR954RR.
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                        • #72
                          Princessirohi, heating no matter how bad never renders your bike unrideable. Amongst all the faired bikes of year 2011 the yamaha R1 heats up the most and even that can be taken to office everyday through traffic. So it's gonna heat up..so what..clearly it cannot kill you...so don't worry so much..the Ninja650r can be taken thru the thickest of Indian traffic and so can the GT be. When ppl say they can "toast" an omlette or boil a kettle of tea or detonate already cascading global warming they are merely being expressive.
                          Don't let the heating get in your way of fun...cause it really isn't that big a problem...just takes getting used to.
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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by TenHut View Post
                            Princessirohi, heating no matter how bad never renders your bike unrideable. Amongst all the faired bikes of year 2011 the yamaha R1 heats up the most and even that can be taken to office everyday through traffic. So it's gonna heat up..so what..clearly it cannot kill you...so don't worry so much..the Ninja650r can be taken thru the thickest of Indian traffic and so can the GT be. When ppl say they can "toast" an omlette or boil a kettle of tea or detonate already cascading global warming they are merely being expressive.
                            Don't let the heating get in your way of fun...cause it really isn't that big a problem...just takes getting used to.
                            Bang on tenhut !!


                            Originally posted by xionite View Post
                            like is said...


                            the heat generated by a parallel-twin is nowhere as severe as an inline-four.



                            i've ridden alongside a (naked) FZ1 that ran about 8 degrees hotter than a (fully faired) CBR954RR.

                            Yikes !! is this true !! 8+ degrees is insane ! was it a new bike ?? i thought new engine tend to heat up more !!
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                            • #74
                              was about about 3-4 months old. i was surprised too.
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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by TenHut View Post
                                Princessirohi, heating no matter how bad never renders your bike unrideable. Amongst all the faired bikes of year 2011 the yamaha R1 heats up the most and even that can be taken to office everyday through traffic. So it's gonna heat up..so what..clearly it cannot kill you...so don't worry so much..the Ninja650r can be taken thru the thickest of Indian traffic and so can the GT be. When ppl say they can "toast" an omlette or boil a kettle of tea or detonate already cascading global warming they are merely being expressive.
                                Don't let the heating get in your way of fun...cause it really isn't that big a problem...just takes getting used to.
                                thanks a lot for clarification, i was worried a lot, now its ok.
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