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**Dman** · 02-14-2012, 10:33 PM

Originally posted by payeng View Post

Moreover I am not sure how much the rider in the video (Sirish Chrandran) was able to tuck in due to the on board camera.

yeah i also have the same doubt. i think the bike is capable of clocking a 140- 145 kmph at least by the speedo readings but what takes my concern is the accuracy and rate of errors from the actual readings.what do you guys think about the rate of speedo error and overall level of accuracy...?

**payeng** · 02-14-2012, 10:40 PM

Originally posted by Dman View Post

yeah i also have the same doubt. i think the bike is capable of clocking a 140- 145 kmph at least by the speedo readings but what takes my concern is the accuracy and rate of errors from the actual readings.

Acording to what I know ARAI allows for a 10% + error in Speedo Readings.. and nearly all bikes come with around 10% error in their speedo readings. The UG III Pulsars including the P220 DTS-Fi and the P200 in fact had one of the most accurate speedos ever.

Will have to see how accurate the speedo of the new Pulsar 200 NS is.

**Dman** · 02-14-2012, 10:59 PM

Originally posted by payeng View Post

Acording to what I know ARAI allows for a 10% + error in Speedo Readings.. and nearly all bikes come with around 10% error in their speedo readings. The UG III Pulsars including the P220 DTS-Fi and the P200 in fact had one of the most accurate speedos ever.

Will have to see how accurate the speedo of the new Pulsar 200 NS is.

yeah and i thought zmr's speedo was the most accurate of the lot.btw bro can you explain plus/ minus 10%...as i thought there is only chance for an over enthusiastic speedo than an under enthusiastic one.And one more thing does with respect to your reference to ug3 series, does this mean the ug3 p180 and 150 also had the same correctness with respect to accuracy levels ?

**payeng** · 02-14-2012, 11:05 PM

Originally posted by Dman View Post

yeah and i thought zmr's speedo was the most accurate of the lot.btw bro can you explain plus/ minus 10%...as i thought there is only chance for an over enthusiastic speedo than an under enthusiastic one.

So far I have only read about speedos being over enthusiastic. If I remember correctly (from one of the auto mag numbers) the Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi probably was the only one which showed around 98 Kmph when the true speed was 100 Kmph..!!

Originally posted by Dman View Post

And one more thing does with respect to your reference to ug3 series, does this mean the ug3 p180 and 150 also had the same correctness with respect to accuracy levels ?

The P150/180 UG III, the P200 and the P220 DTS-Fi had very accurate speedos.

**niks_devil666** · 02-14-2012, 11:30 PM

Originally posted by payeng View Post

Moreover I have my doubts on how much the rider in the video (Sirish Chrandran) was able to tuck in due to the on board camera.

looks like chest mount go pro cam. wont hamper ur tucking down because of that

**Dman** · 02-14-2012, 11:31 PM

Originally posted by payeng View Post

So far I have only read about speedos being over enthusiastic. If I remember correctly (from one of the auto mag numbers) the Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi probably was the only one which showed around 98 Kmph when the true speed was 100 Kmph..!!

The P150/180 UG III, the P200 and the P220 DTS-Fi had very accurate speedos.

hmm so that means if the speedo of my friend's 2008 p180 ug3 which showed 119 kmph top speed in the meter and that too when we both were travelling together (me as the pillion as usual) seems to accurate if i were to believe the words coming from you...and since these words are coming from you,i believe it.

so is it possible to eh predict speedo accuracy like that of upcoming bikes like the p200NS ? (just asking due to my excitement for the pulsars as usual)

**payeng** · 02-14-2012, 11:42 PM

Originally posted by Dman View Post

hmm so that means if the speedo of my friend's 2008 p180 ug3 which showed 119 kmph top speed in the meter and that too when we both were travelling together (me as the pillion as usual) seems to accurate if i were to believe the words coming from you...and since these words are coming from you,i believe it.

so is it possible to eh predict speedo accuracy like that of upcoming bikes like the p200NS ? (just asking due to my excitement for the pulsars as usual)

I am just quoting what I had read about the bikes in Auto Mags when they were launched. Lets wait for the V-box readings done by mags about the accuracy of the speedo and the true speeds of the new Pulsar.

Originally posted by niks_devil666 View Post

looks like chest mount go pro cam. wont hamper ur tucking down because of that

Hmmm.. have never used the "Go Pro" cams myself, so am not really qualified to comment on it.

**Dman** · 02-15-2012, 12:12 AM

but i am worried whether the NS versions will churn out even more lesser speeds than the company specified figure of 136 kmph. i mean what if the data logger figure is only just close to a real world 125 kmph, as people will find it too disappointing considering the fact that the bike boasts a mighty power figure of 23.5 ps and that too from a state of the art fully tech loaded liquid cooled heart which is even more wilder than a simple down to earth raging raw beast called the 220 dtsi at least in paper. Could the reason be that the 200 ns lacks a fairing like the 220f ( if you take into consideration the top end figures between the current 220f and 220 versions) . Can an aerodynamic fairing be much of a help in giving the 200 ns a 5- 15 kms extra top end....what are your views guys ?

**surya220** · 02-15-2012, 12:57 AM

Originally posted by Dman View Post

but i am worried whether the NS versions will churn out even more lesser speeds than the company specified figure of 136 kmph. i mean what if the data logger figure is only just close to a real world 125 kmph, as people will find it too disappointing considering the fact that the bike boasts a mighty power figure of 23.5 ps and that too from a state of the art fully tech loaded liquid cooled heart which is even more wilder than a simple down to earth raging raw beast called the 220 dtsi at least in paper. Could the reason be that the 200 ns lacks a fairing like the 220f ( if you take into consideration the top end figures between the current 220f and 220 versions) . Can an aerodynamic fairing be much of a help in giving the 200 ns a 5- 15 kms extra top end....what are your views guys ?

A bike's top speed and acceleration isn't dependent upon its FAIRING or POWER OUTPUT, but rather its GEARING.. The 200 NS, though having 6 gears, has a shorter overall gearing for better acceleration rather than outright top speed.. Consider this for example.. A P220 has 21 bhp, Ninja 250R has 33bhp; but the top speed difference is only around 20-25 kmph.. But, the Ninja crosses 140+ easily without any strain while the 220 will have rapid progress only till about 120.. after that, it'll take time to build speed.. Hope this clears your doubt.. Lets just hope that we have a 250FS soon..

**ABikerAtHeart** · 02-15-2012, 02:32 AM

Wonder what the 200FS would look like?

My guess, HAWT!!

**Ivin** · 02-15-2012, 08:50 AM

^^ It should look hot. Common Pune residents, we need spy pics....

**aargee** · 02-15-2012, 10:00 AM

Originally posted by payeng View Post

Acording to what I know ARAI allows for a 10% + error in Speedo Readings.. and nearly all bikes come with around 10% error in their speedo readings

Its not only from ARAI Payeng; its mandate Universally - Speedometer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

**niks_devil666** · 02-15-2012, 10:09 AM

Originally posted by surya220 View Post

A bike's top speed and acceleration isn't dependent upon its FAIRING or POWER OUTPUT, but rather its GEARING..

Are you sure? can u put an R1's gear box on a p220 and make it cross 250 kmph ?

All these factors are relevant when u want to hit the top speed.

**J K** · 02-15-2012, 10:18 AM

Guys, one thing.

As this 200NS hasn't got kicker start, is there will be any starting problem in early morning or after starting without used for some days?

This is question to current xbhpians having "non-kick start bike" like r15, cbr250r, p220, FZ-s etc..... guys please reply...

**Dman** · 02-15-2012, 12:40 PM

Originally posted by surya220 View Post

A bike's top speed and acceleration isn't dependent upon its FAIRING or POWER OUTPUT, but rather its GEARING

Originally posted by surya220 View Post

.. The 200 NS, though having 6 gears, has a shorter overall gearing for better acceleration rather than outright top speed.. Consider this for example.. A P220 has 21 bhp, Ninja 250R has 33bhp; but the top speed difference is only around 20-25 kmph.. But, the Ninja crosses 140+ easily without any strain while the 220 will have rapid progress only till about 120.. after that, it'll take time to build speed.. Hope this clears your doubt.. Lets just hope that we have a 250FS soon..

Originally posted by niks_devil666 View Post

Are you sure? can u put an R1's gear box on a p220 and make it cross 250 kmph ?

All these factors are relevant when u want to hit the top speed.

@ surya 220 & DEVIL 666,thanks for the info guys. @ surya220 but what you said is what i am already aware of that. and that is the same reason behind the duke's low top end also and also one of the reasons behind 2009 pulsar 220 dtsi's increase in top whack over the his predecessor the 2008 pulsar 220 dts-fi. I was only doubtful on the fairing's involvement & influence (despite even after leading to more weight and slightly reduced initial) in increasing the overall top end of the bike over its bikini faired/non faired cousin like in the case of 220 F having more on topend and 220 S having more on acceleration & initial.

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