we don't see too many bulky bikes in india.infact bulky bikes are more seen in europe.duke 125 customers have many complaints about the electricals of the bike.about the sparkplugs innovative move .

in india normally the bikes are over 140kg

thanx for posting here.

so over 140 kg of kerb weight is considered bulky?

bulky in terms of weight. there must be only a handful of bikes sold in india which weigh below 140kgs.. pulsar 135 and r15 is the only one i can remember off-the-bat... anyone can chip in?

Pulsar was bulky and less flickable than its competitors viz- FZ,Apache.

And the new Pulsar 200NS at 145Kgs, it will remain so.

its normal for us... but one gentleman called it bulky... hence, the discussion

this has got a carb n the duke has fi

Dont be so sure Dude. I am sure with the new Chasis, and new dynamics, it may prove otherwise. Lets wait for the actual thing to hit the roads before shooting off.

^^well bro, for that matter, even KTM's pick-up and top speed is untested. both KTM200 & P200's performance figures are as provided by BAL & as quoted by xbhp. none are tested till date by any third party.

for answer to your above question, i have a theory, which u missed in earlier pages.... read below...

and some performance fig.s as well as..

the above article says "brilliance of CBR250R's handling", whereas some experts say CBR handles like a boat...........dont know whom to believe??

btw, also check the overdrive review.

its only the electricals... major manufacturers also have defects in their products, which is absolutely normal...

the platform as such has been succesful

The extra spark plug is used for better combustion efficiency (not for 'looking different') and controlling emissions without using expensive technology like Fuel injection which will jack up the price by a cool 15k (that was the price difference between the old P220 Fi and the new P220 Carb back in July-August 2009). If you read the zigwheels article on the engine + transmission here:

Engine and Transmission on the New 2012 Bajaj Pulsar Page - 2| Zigwheels.com

The cat con used in the PuNS is tiny as compared to the sizable one on the Duke. Smaller cat con = much cheaper to manufacture the exhaust = cost savings for both company and customer. What this also means is that the combustion efficiency achieved by the PuNS is much better than the Duke even though it doesn't use the more advanced Fi tech. Back in 2009, contrary to what happened today, the P220 Carb had to be introduced with a cat con whereas the P220 Fi did not have one though both were DTSi.

Just by ingeniously using a carb + triple spark-plug + SOHC + smaller cat con setup, BAL has easily saved costs in the tune of 20-25k. Add to it the comparatively thinner tyres, lack of the cast Aluminum swing arm, the thinner(but equally wide as the CBR) conventional forks saves another 20-25k. They can easily price the PuNS a good 50k less than the Duke and still make handsome margins + very well kill the competition (Come on! Why would you buy anything else if this sold for 75-80k OTR? Thats closer to FZ than to Zma). But considering how terribly overpriced the competition is, BAL can very well price this around 90-95k OTR (35-40k less than Duke) and still the general bike enthusiasts will be happy with the pricing.

thats why pulsar is the king of VFM bikes

Pulsar was so bad a handler not because of its weight but the distribution of it, it had pathetic mass distribution and CG.
For comparison. ZMR is almost 10 kg more and handles far better.

Now we have to see what a better frame can do along with outstanding mass centralization.

and the handful bikes are fz,apache,stunner,shine,dazzler,twister,splendor,p assion,glamour,cd-dawn,szr,ss125,ybr125,r15,discover,platina,boxer,p 135,flame,sport,starcity.quite a long list huh