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  • Originally posted by princesirohi View Post
    @samarth: bro, you are not updating this thread at a pace you should, if you would have been very satisfied with RC performance parts. so tell us till now, RC performance parts, are they delivering the kind of performance and reliability they promise...??
    Bro, Yes they are performing as promised. As for "reliable", I think they should be, because they gave me no problems in the past 1700 kms I rode the bike. The updates anyways are:

    1. I recently tuned the AFR myself, using the rpm needle "not vibrating" method, although I considered it quite "crude" earlier. Still, the bike is much better and powerful now. Earlier, it was running lean by more than the screw's full turn.

    2. It has run around 1700 kms after the kit's installation, of which 500 kms was strict running-in. After that, I opened her up slowly. Oil was changed at 0 kms (due to fillings) and 500 kms (after running in). Now that it is 1500 kms, I will change oil once more just to minimize the fillings effect, although apparently, the fillings have done no harm to the bike.
    Gearshifts are smooth although I experienced one false neutral today, after a long time.

    3. Today, after 7 days of college tour, I went to meet Digvijay and Avinash (both Xbhpians) to Pushkar. Bike is running fit and fine! Started in just one crank. Took her to a maximum of about 7000 rpm only, but gradually.

    If there's anything else you'd like to ask "specifically", then do put it forward & I'll reply.
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    • Have you consulted Joel about tuning your AFR?
      I though Joel has always said a straight no-no to his measures!
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      • Originally posted by Samarth 619 View Post
        If there's anything else you'd like to ask "specifically", then do put it forward & I'll reply.
        thanks for the updates, you seem to be riding your bike very carefully now, 1700 kms ... means running-in is complete, when are you going to test its full speed and maximum acceleration things...? put those performance parts to use, the way they are designed for.
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        • Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post
          Have you consulted Joel about tuning your AFR?
          Not yet. Will talk to him soon.

          I though Joel has always said a straight no-no to his measures!
          Joel always said a no-no to "whose" measures? My measures or his own measures? Can't get you...?

          Originally posted by princesirohi View Post
          thanks for the updates, you seem to be riding your bike very carefully now, 1700 kms ... means running-in is complete, when are you going to test its full speed and maximum acceleration things...? put those performance parts to use, the way they are designed for.
          I will do so when I get enough time from college. Its true that my college roads are all open and good, but they're not wide enough, and not grippy at all places. Still, I touch 100 kmph every now and then.


          Let me give you a good perspective of its performance. Its true that its performance is higher now, and it might well be making around 18-20 bhp, because I somehow find it faster than a stock P220. It is rev happier now. But it is a commuter after all, and this shows after modification too.
          The one thing I myself love is its commuterish powerband: 3000-5000 rpm torque seems to have increased by a good margin.

          Go through the city and stay between 3-5 krpm: Pure torque & fun. The exhaust sounds great in this area too. All the time I'm going through 3-5, 3-5, 3-5 (shifting gears accordingly) and its like, effortless overtaking of all kinds of stuff.
          Below 3 krpm also, its torque is better than a stock bike. Sometimes I engage gear and just leave the clutch without accelerating, and it pulls easier than earlier, without stalling... Yes, I can certify that its entire powerband is mostly better than a stock bike from what I experience.


          One funny thing is that, I measured mileage 4-5 times now with different riding styles, but the mileage figures hardly vary.
          Earlier, without mods, I have measured as low as 32 kmpl and as high as 56 kmpl in different riding styles.

          Now, with 208cc and FF exhaust, the mileage varies between 38-44 kmpl. I've ridden sanely, I've ridden hard (which I do most of the time, that too in lower gears mostly). Mileage is hardly affected. Doesn't decrease, doesn't increase. What is happening?
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          • Dear samarth you can change the left foot peg sets in pulsar 180(ug3), while i also change it in simple way tell the mechanic to install it on left while cut the saree guard main rod slightly small and resolding it. then you can fell the superb balance, but remember cut the main stand rubber slightly other wise it will down too much while you take corner it will touch the road.











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            • i hv seen a p150 modded upto p200.. only look ... As we indians r much clean in jugad methods i think u can adjust p180 ug4 foot rest holders...

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              • Originally posted by karila View Post
                Dear samarth you can change the left foot peg sets in pulsar 180(ug3), while i also change it in simple way tell the mechanic to install it on left while cut the saree guard main rod slightly small and resolding it. then you can fell the superb balance, but remember cut the main stand rubber slightly other wise it will down too much while you take corner it will touch the road.
                Buddy, I have already changed the footrest holders to those from P180 UG4. I think you saw the first post in which both footrests were dis-balanced. In the entire thread, you can see more updates, as and when they happened.

                As far as Saree guard is concerned, I don't really have a need for it. If ladies sit on my bike, I tell them to be aware of the chain. Even if I need one, I can purchase the saree guard from P200, which directly fits the suspension.

                Originally posted by Wilson4willy View Post
                i hv seen a p150 modded upto p200.. only look ... As we indians r much clean in jugad methods i think u can adjust p180 ug4 foot rest holders...
                P180 UG4's footrest holders can't be adjusted. They are fixed. Adjusting them means relying on welding which I don't want.


                UPDATE: Crossed about 1900 kms with the kit... Bike is doing fine, but the R15 v1's tyres are slowly losing grip and slipping a bit here and there. I can feel it during my ride everyday. And the increased torque is not helping either. Got to get a new set of tyres. And yes, R15's high grip tyres only.

                The exhaust has those twin holes which I mentioned earlier, due to pressure of the gases, but otherwise, I can't notice much difference in performance. Its hard to say.
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                • 1900 kms with the kit, i think you can now test its full throttle no holds barred kind of acceleration and top speed, and report back...
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                  • Originally posted by princesirohi View Post
                    1900 kms with the kit, i think you can now test its full throttle no holds barred kind of acceleration and top speed, and report back...
                    Will try my best to find a road, time and ride hard. As you know, I'm at a job now, and that road although very good, is not too wide for full throttle rides. Job does make a person busy.

                    Run-in is not my worry. You know I have taken it to 8-9000 rpm already (in lower gears)... that too multiple times.
                    And I remember that once, I was overtaking a bus and the bike accelerated so quickly, then I glanced down and I was like... console showing 9500 rpm?? Shifted up immediately after that.

                    And will record a video too, when I try some hard riding. My 808 Pureview can do that kind of stuff the best!!
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                    • ^^ anxiously waiting for that..
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                      • Originally posted by princesirohi View Post
                        ^^ anxiously waiting for that..
                        I did take it to Jaipur Road highway yesterday (Sunday) on a ride to Narelli.
                        It didn't go beyond 117 kmph at 9000 or so rpm (on meter). Now, this could be due to various reasons: clutch wear? improper AFR, although I did tune it as per the book? smaller carburettor? Maybe, (I'm not sure) those twin cracks on the exhaust have fiddled with the scavenging/ backforce balance of the exhaust, or something. Will have to get the exhaust repaired or replaced I guess.
                        Also, something seems to be sounding randomly like "kit-kit-kit" now. It comes up when I start the bike, and disappears after 20 seconds idling. Then again, on riding hard, it comes back. It could be the timing chain I think... Will have to get the bike checked. Running fine though, and acceleration and torque is still good enough.


                        I will be able to say something on getting the bike checked at Bajaj. Maybe, its just a timing chain or clutch plate problem?
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                        • what was the previous top speed..?? nevertheless top speed won't change much, its mainly how quickly you reach there.

                          if possible, change clutch plates if worn out, replace the exhaust if possible ( its RC FFE, right..??) how come cracks btw..

                          that kit-kit noise isn't tappet noise, r u sure..?? is oil level ok and condition of oil...??

                          njoy riding your mini beast.
                          Last edited by princesirohi; 01-22-2013, 12:47 AM.
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                          • Originally posted by princesirohi View Post
                            what was the previous top speed..?? nevertheless top speed won't change much, its mainly how quickly you reach there.
                            if possible, change clutch plates if worn out, replace the exhaust if possible ( its RC FFE, right..??) how come cracks btw..
                            that kit-kit noise isn't tappet noise, r u sure..?? is oil level ok and condition of oil...??
                            njoy riding your mini beast.
                            Well, previously on a gearing change, I took it to 131, but that was long time ago and on a very long open stretch.
                            Then, with stock gearing, I once took it to 119, but that was an even older instance, when the bike did only 5000 kms.

                            Here, in this instance, it just stopped at 117 kmph @ 9000 rpm.

                            Oil level is ok. Condition must be good as I just changed it 700 kms ago. Its not tappet noise, I'm sure. Initially it comes for 5-10 seconds on idling, then it disappears temporarily. I think it is the timing chain that needs replacement. Will get it checked if I get free from job early tomorrow. And, Joel is preparing a new package, and I'm saving money for it. Let's hope it works out well, because now I can't go back to bone stock condition, that's how far I've reached. No problems though, will work something out.
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                            • Hi bro,

                              Fella Joeled bike owner here (RTR190).. even I m facing a bit of top end issue, no probs in performance anywhere else though.. What all have you done for the carburettor? Did you install a bigger one or have you reset needle clip/upjet the carb? Because the reason for lesser top end could be a lean mixture. Also what did Joel suggest you?
                              And one more question, have you tried this with or without dB killer? Because that too can cause a difference.
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                              • Originally posted by Samarth 619 View Post
                                I did take it to Jaipur Road highway yesterday (Sunday) on a ride to Narelli.
                                It didn't go beyond 117 kmph at 9000 or so rpm (on meter). Now, this could be due to various reasons: clutch wear? improper AFR, although I did tune it as per the book? smaller carburettor? Maybe, (I'm not sure) those twin cracks on the exhaust have fiddled with the scavenging/ backforce balance of the exhaust, or something. Will have to get the exhaust repaired or replaced I guess.
                                Also, something seems to be sounding randomly like "kit-kit-kit" now. It comes up when I start the bike, and disappears after 20 seconds idling. Then again, on riding hard, it comes back. It could be the timing chain I think... Will have to get the bike checked. Running fine though, and acceleration and torque is still good enough.


                                I will be able to say something on getting the bike checked at Bajaj. Maybe, its just a timing chain or clutch plate problem?
                                Hi Samarth,

                                Joelled Dazzler owner here. I was also getting the exact same tik-tik-tik sound that you mention. For me it came every time I started the bike, it would last for precisely 5-10 seconds after which everything sounded ok. Also this sound started only after I took the bike for the first time ever to about 8500 rpms. Joel had said that this comes because just as the engine is started the oil in the sump splashes up so it takes a little bit of time for everything to get lubricated, hence the sound. The valves were ok and so was the timing chain, yet the sound persisted. This was in the 180cc block which I had previously, which went bust. Whatever you have to do, please make sure and ensure that your engine is NOT running hot or lean and there is no knocking at any given time. Seriously, am not kidding. I am on my second block now by the way which is running super perfectly and even after 3000kms and having revved till 8500rpms there is no tik-tik or any other abnormal sound indicating a healthy status. This was just not the case with my first block.

                                Regards,
                                plasmabhai.
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