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  • Originally posted by MACH50 View Post
    Exactly,that is why there is this aircooled carb p200...........thats ultimate Pulsar experience at a lower price in form of a carb version...........Performance wise P220 and P200 r only as much different as a RTR160 and RTR160fi.
    There is a noticeable difference between them mate... either for a drag or for a high speed run, there is a clearly marked difference between their performance. The 200 is very torquey in lower RPM's and looses out on the top speed. The 220 matches the torque of the 200 and possibly the Fi acts up and it revvs up faster and has a better top speed too. The difference between these two is much more than that between RTR & RTR Fi.

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    • Originally posted by Aparajith View Post
      I just dont get the reason that the 220 shud go carb just because the Ninja 250 being carb'ed. The Ninja is carb'ed to make it simpler and cut costs and also because its just a beginners/learners bike outside India. Just read reviews about it and u will understand! Learn to arrive at conclusions with some proper reasons.
      Originally posted by HydBiker View Post
      Why can't there be a carb P220?

      I guess it makes sense. A P220 without FI would come at the cost of a ZMA, would attract more people. A P220 without FI would have easier serviceability and would attract more people who stay away from that fearing the FI complications. A P220 without FI would be more attractive for people in non-metro markets because of lesser cost and for not having to rely on the PBK's in their state HQ's.
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      • Originally posted by HydBiker View Post
        Why can't there be a carb P220?

        I guess it makes sense. A P220 without FI would come at the cost of a ZMA, would attract more people. A P220 without FI would have easier serviceability and would attract more people who stay away from that fearing the FI complications. A P220 without FI would be more attractive for people in non-metro markets because of lesser cost and for not having to rely on the PBK's in their state HQ's.

        Ah, BTW, the R125 would not come to India - stated by the Yamaha India head in an interview. Also, it doesn't make sense to launch that in India... else Yamaha would have launched it straight without going to the drawing boards for the R15... may be with a vixion bore setup. An R125 has a much more peaky engine with less power than the R15 and has a lot more equippment than the R15 and hence costs a lot more than the R15.
        A carbed P220.... Phew Hot as hell!
        I was told that the mechs in the Bajaj 200 and above are weird! and really NEED oil cooler

        Jeez nevermind....
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        • Carb'ed P220 is an interesting proposition but again there is the P200 which would face the heat if the P220(Carb) is launched.First and foremost job for BAJAJ is to improve the efficiency of the motors, styling(long-due on P220) and then concentrate on launching other platforms.

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          • Originally posted by HydBiker View Post
            There is a noticeable difference between them mate... either for a drag or for a high speed run, there is a clearly marked difference between their performance. The 200 is very torquey in lower RPM's and looses out on the top speed. The 220 matches the torque of the 200 and possibly the Fi acts up and it revvs up faster and has a better top speed too. The difference between these two is much more than that between RTR & RTR Fi.
            Thats the Xtra 20cc at work in case of top seeds..............who travels at top speeds most of the time anyway? I rode both bikes that belongs to my frnds,Pulsar's midrange torque,upper rev range vibrations were similar in both the P200 and P220.P220 gave ease of riding and engine smoothness at high speeds which was evidently lower in P200.
            Very similar is the case of RTR160 and RTRFi version.The Fi is very smooth and posts higher top speeds than the stock carb,though bcoz of same cc not much higher unlike Pulsars.
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            • went to th probiking showroom in gurgaon yesterday, the sales guy told me he had confirmed news of the Ninja arriving in the first week of May. price 1.9 - 2.25 lacs.
              He also confirmed on a new look P220 in May.

              Wonder how true this is. But let's wait and watch again.

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              • Originally posted by dushyant View Post
                went to th probiking showroom in gurgaon yesterday, the sales guy told me he had confirmed news of the Ninja arriving in the first week of May. price 1.9 - 2.25 lacs.
                He also confirmed on a new look P220 in May.

                Wonder how true this is. But let's wait and watch again.
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                • Originally posted by dushyant View Post
                  went to th probiking showroom in gurgaon yesterday, the sales guy told me he had confirmed news of the Ninja arriving in the first week of May. price 1.9 - 2.25 lacs.
                  He also confirmed on a new look P220 in May.

                  Wonder how true this is. But let's wait and watch again.
                  And I asked Khivraj motors in Bangalore and they looked heavenwards and said they have no idea !!
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                  • many are saying about yamaha r125 making to india but i dont think so it will make it to india ! can any one throw correct light on this !
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                    • Went to Probiking today. As soon as i muttered the word Ninja-they opened a book and took my contact details!

                      Further imagination left to you guys!
                      Btw my name was the first one on that list!


                      P.S. [ i am not buying the Ninja]

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                      • Originally posted by dushyant View Post
                        went to th probiking showroom in gurgaon yesterday, the sales guy told me he had confirmed news of the Ninja arriving in the first week of May. price 1.9 - 2.25 lacs.
                        He also confirmed on a new look P220 in May.

                        Wonder how true this is. But let's wait and watch again.
                        First it was Mid April. Now it is beginning May. And before you know it, the year will be out. Then we will have a new thread wherein we will begin speculating about the bikes coming in 2010. And we will be again doing the same thing... with the same bikes!!!

                        Originally posted by nitrosatya View Post
                        P.S. [ i am not buying the Ninja]
                        As if you have a choice!
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                        • Originally posted by ken cool View Post
                          First it was Mid April. Now it is beginning May. And before you know it, the year will be out. Then we will have a new thread wherein we will begin speculating about the bikes coming in 2010. And we will be again doing the same thing... with the same bikes!!!



                          As if you have a choice!
                          I feel that "Release in December" news was all a hearsay/ rumour ... Mr. Bajaj said that it would come in May '09, so let "May" come, right?

                          It's not far away. In around 25-30 days we shall have an answer. BTW I have no idea about the April news.

                          Personally, I think this time they'll release it ... "Personally"

                          As if you have a choice!
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                          • Originally posted by nitrosatya View Post
                            Btw my name was the first one on that list!
                            Then its the first name in second register mine is there at somewhere in the middle of first book
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                            • Looks Spicy...am planning to go for it this year-end!!
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                              • Originally posted by saif71184 View Post
                                Looks Spicy...am planning to go for it this year-end!!
                                2009 Bajaj Pulsar 200 Upgrade
                                This is simply great...now we have the 200s and 220s looking exactly the same..!!

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