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  • #61
    RTR 180 Menace

    Guyss!!!! My friend works at TVS Racing as I had posted on another post elsewhere. My Bro owns an FZ 16 and cant stop cribbing. My crib was mostly about the stupid commuterish performance of the bike but he tells me that he gets 32 kmpl in the city ... too low for a non performing but great looking 150 FZ. I was such Yamaha fan but after 2 purchases in the family first an R 15 which I bought and have already sold it coz its good looking crap now the FZ also disappointed; I am looking else where.

    In comes TVS RTR 180 Menace as reported on the site . He says its a 180cc, 17+ bhp scorcher of a bike and they were the last I heard of him benchmarking it against R 15. It ll be lightest weight in its class and full of features.

    Now what he said about this is what will be music to guys like us who are members of a site that reads "X" Bhp. Assuming all of us a Performance seekers as our site name suggests. TVS found the R15 boring in the tests and they discontinued the benchmarking exercise after reading the 0-100 kmph run. Thats preposterous if u thought wait. they now have started testing it against P 220 and P 200 in straight lines. He says it ll be the fastest 0-100 kmph bike in India.
    Last edited by MG; 12-17-2008, 04:20 PM.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by TheShark View Post
      In comes TVS RTR 180 Menace as reported on the site . He says its a 180cc, 17+ bhp scorcher of a bike and they were the last I heard of him benchmarking it against R 15. It ll be lightest weight in its class and full of features.
      Just browsed thru linkedin. He is Senior Segment Manager-Performance Motorcycles working for TVS Motors. I am not completely surprised for TVS pulling in a scorcher.They are just a lil bit late but hope it would be something kicka$$!!

      TVS found the R15 boring in the tests and they discontinued the benchmarking exercise after reading the 0-100 kmph run.
      Now this seems interesting. I can see most of the members/fans face turning out to:
      Last edited by MG; 12-19-2008, 09:53 AM.

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      • #63
        ^Hang on... From linkedin you know one end of information about a person... but the other end is still an unconfirmed 'news' item! Stop reading them together...

        For Example, I just spoke to one Mr. H.S. Goindi, who has confirmed that TVS is working on a 250CC bike for India/Emerging Markets... which is why the RTR is going to US...
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        • #64
          form honda's maker

          guys anything about honda launches...like a upgraded unicorn of 200 cc with 6 gears or any other bike...if honda lanches 200 cc bike in india as a unicorn upgrade then i will be the first one to buy it..so plz guys tell me anything about HONDA
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          • #65
            Originally posted by puneetsingh View Post
            guys anything about honda launches...like a upgraded unicorn of 200 cc with 6 gears or any other bike...if honda lanches 200 cc bike in india as a unicorn upgrade then i will be the first one to buy it..so plz guys tell me anything about HONDA
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            • #66
              Originally posted by puneetsingh View Post
              guys anything about honda launches...like a upgraded unicorn of 200 cc with 6 gears or any other bike...if honda lanches 200 cc bike in india as a unicorn upgrade then i will be the first one to buy it..so plz guys tell me anything about HONDA
              Since everyone wants HMSI to launch the 'Blade soon, they just might rebadge the Unicorn as a fireblade and launch it
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              • #67
                It's so funny to see such a khichdi of facts and expectations being poured out. However i don't quite understand why we allow our Masculinity to overrule our head by wanting all bike companies to introduce "200 cc +" vehicles when on Indian roads one can bearly touch 90 kmph (which even a Splendour can do). Shouldn't we be asking for bikes with better safety features like ABS and better fuel efficiency than just wanting more engine displacement?

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by richie2089 View Post
                  It's so funny to see such a khichdi of facts and expectations being poured out. However i don't quite understand why we allow our Masculinity to overrule our head by wanting all bike companies to introduce "200 cc +" vehicles when on Indian roads one can bearly touch 90 kmph (which even a Splendour can do). Shouldn't we be asking for bikes with better safety features like ABS and better fuel efficiency than just wanting more engine displacement?

                  bro..its not just about the 90 kmph speedo reading..its how you fast get to that 90kmph...and how fast you can bring that down to 0 kmph...
                  and moreover, more displacement just doesnt mean that you are plugging in a bigger engine into a existing frame...a whole lot of safety and handling tweaks will be in place to support it..of course, efficiency is a matter of concern..
                  havent you noticed how successful the pulsar 200 is?...its the combination of the power, the goodies and the efficiency that makes a great bike..
                  no hard feelings bro...just spoke my mind..
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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by richie2089 View Post
                    It's so funny to see such a khichdi of facts and expectations being poured out. However i don't quite understand why we allow our Masculinity to overrule our head by wanting all bike companies to introduce "200 cc +" vehicles when on Indian roads one can bearly touch 90 kmph (which even a Splendour can do). Shouldn't we be asking for bikes with better safety features like ABS and better fuel efficiency than just wanting more engine displacement?
                    Arent we? We want bigger disc brakes and rear discs too.That is a safety feature,in my humble opinion. We want FI because that allows better fuel efficiency.
                    As regarding muscularity overruling our heads,it's natural. And I think the higher powers like to keep it that way.
                    As regarding 'even a Splendor can do 90',I think there's more to an expensive,more power bike than doing 90km per hour.
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                    • #70
                      True.. but there are chances of a USD fork in the next generation pulsars/avengers.. Endurance had made one desi USD for Bajaj and they were testing them on the Avenger.. Bike India had posted the pic of an avenger with an endurance USD fork long ago.. hope we get it soon.. i want to see my RD350 with USD Forks
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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by puneetsingh View Post
                        guys anything about honda launches...like a upgraded unicorn of 200 cc with 6 gears or any other bike...if honda lanches 200 cc bike in india as a unicorn upgrade then i will be the first one to buy it..so plz guys tell me anything about HONDA
                        Honda is coming with a new bike before March 2009...may be CBR 150...

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by richie2089 View Post
                          It's so funny to see such a khichdi of facts and expectations being poured out. However i don't quite understand why we allow our Masculinity to overrule our head by wanting all bike companies to introduce "200 cc +" vehicles when on Indian roads one can bearly touch 90 kmph (which even a Splendour can do). Shouldn't we be asking for bikes with better safety features like ABS and better fuel efficiency than just wanting more engine displacement?
                          about masculinity i have seen punny 100cc bikes in japan that can literally put an rx 100 to shame.Of course safety is of prime importance,but its how fast u can reach to 90km/hr speed.If u have the moola theres nothing wrong in craving for more.
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                          • #73
                            I have few questions rising from this thread:

                            1.Which one is named the Menace the TVS180 or TVS200?
                            2.Where is ZMA Fi? No has even seen it being tested by mistake?
                            3.Honda's Unicorn is unique and needs no upgrades.A positive ID is about the CB150R being launched in a different segment of performance.But when?

                            Now goes my comment,instead of searching and speculating abt ZMA and CBR lets see when Honda is going to launch their CBR1000R in India!!!!!!!

                            Why bcoz both Honda and Hero Honda are going to launch their performance machines simultaneously in line with the CBR1000R!!!!!!!!
                            Ahem,source tracked to thread NEW CBZ XTREME thread in the Desi bikes [email protected]
                            Posts by our member Saty are the one to look for.
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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by MACH50 View Post
                              I have few questions rising from this thread:

                              1.Which one is named the Menace the TVS180 or TVS200?
                              2.Where is ZMA Fi? No has even seen it being tested by mistake?
                              3.Honda's Unicorn is unique and needs no upgrades.A positive ID is about the CB150R being launched in a different segment of performance.But when?

                              Now goes my comment,instead of searching and speculating abt ZMA and CBR lets see when Honda is going to launch their CBR1000R in India!!!!!!!

                              Why bcoz both Honda and Hero Honda are going to launch their performance machines simultaneously in line with the CBR1000R!!!!!!!!
                              Ahem,source tracked to thread NEW CBZ XTREME thread in the Desi bikes [email protected]
                              Posts by our member Saty are the one to look for.
                              Q1) No one knows... I had managed to get hold of a design concept called as TVS CARENA... no clue on what CC it will be.... but it really looked very aggresive...
                              2) Discussed a lot many times... the host engine comes from a bike crf230, which even in its 2009 avatar doesnt have an FI
                              3) 150 was told to be in 09 Q1
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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by MACH50 View Post
                                I have few questions rising from this thread:

                                1.Which one is named the Menace the TVS180 or TVS200?
                                2.Where is ZMA Fi? No has even seen it being tested by mistake?
                                3.Honda's Unicorn is unique and needs no upgrades.A positive ID is about the CB150R being launched in a different segment of performance.But when?

                                Now goes my comment,instead of searching and speculating abt ZMA and CBR lets see when Honda is going to launch their CBR1000R in India!!!!!!!

                                Why bcoz both Honda and Hero Honda are going to launch their performance machines simultaneously in line with the CBR1000R!!!!!!!!
                                Ahem,source tracked to thread NEW CBZ XTREME thread in the Desi bikes [email protected]
                                Posts by our member Saty are the one to look for.
                                1. The 180 will be called 'Menace'. TVS is also supposedly working on RTR 200 with ABS!
                                2. ZMA Fi speculation has been going on since more than a year now. Nothing from Hero Honda about it too. We thought the ZMA 'R' would be fuel injected, but it turned out to be only a minor cosmetic upgrade.
                                3. Honda has plans of continuing the Unicorn&will launch the CBR150 by March 2009 alongside the Unicorn. Similar to the 125 segment, they will have one sporty and one commuter bike in the 150 segment too.
                                4. Honda has officially announced that they will be getting an 800cc+bike to India by March 2009, so we can only keep guessing whether it is the VFR Interceptor, or the Blade. My guess is the Interceptor, followed by the Blade.
                                Even the Manager during my visit to the Honda showroom only informed me that we can watch out for the CBR and a big bike in 2009, and also fuel injection on all models, including the Stunner. So no concrete news on the Blade yet!
                                Last edited by Sarvajit; 12-19-2008, 12:25 PM.
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