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  • #301
    Originally posted by ACE_HUNTER View Post
    Name:Apache RTR 180cc
    Company:TVS
    Power:17.5-18 Bhp
    Colour: One Colour Said-White & Blue TVS Racing Colour
    Launch Day/Month-Expected Before Apr 14
    Engine: First Carb After 4-5 Months FI Comes
    Price-Btw 80k-82k

    Source:Call From TVS Office Chennai

    PPl Cross Your Fingers
    Will 17.5-18 Bhp be "menacing" enough? Hard to believe.The bike will have to have a very good power-to-weight ratio

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    • #302
      Originally posted by Hyperion View Post
      Will 17.5-18 Bhp be "menacing" enough? Hard to believe.The bike will have to have a very good power-to-weight ratio
      ...which would mean a completely different bike which is in this case is not going to happen.Or may be i am wrong!!

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      • #303
        Originally posted by ACE_HUNTER View Post
        Name:Apache RTR 180cc
        Company:TVS
        Power:17.5-18 Bhp
        Colour: One Colour Said-White & Blue TVS Racing Colour
        Launch Day/Month-Expected Before Apr 14
        Engine: First Carb After 4-5 Months FI Comes
        Price-Btw 80k-82k

        Source:Call From TVS Office Chennai

        PPl Cross Your Fingers
        I don't get it. Why, the carbed version when FI can be launched straightaway? The 180FI can be positioned to take on the R15/P220 with a clear demarcation between the 160FI as the FI will be higher priced. This is what I hate about the manufacturers: milking the market.

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        • #304
          Originally posted by ACE_HUNTER View Post
          Name:Apache RTR 180cc
          Company:TVS
          Power:17.5-18 Bhp
          Colour: One Colour Said-White & Blue TVS Racing Colour
          Launch Day/Month-Expected Before Apr 14
          Engine: First Carb After 4-5 Months FI Comes
          Price-Btw 80k-82k

          Source:Call From TVS Office Chennai

          PPl Cross Your Fingers

          carbed............?????????????????
          i doubt it.......
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          • #305
            17.5 - 18 BHP means slightly higher than R15. Will that make it faster than it?
            And why carb when they can have FI straightaway?
            BTW, any visual changes apart from the 180cc decals?

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            • #306
              This thread has gone so boring.... all BaSeless assumption and speculations...
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              • #307
                May be its better to Lock the thread..... as the same done for the R-1-5 Thread.....

                As there is no Base Proof and ofcourse and we all know what TVS has done for thier 160FI......

                The mantra is Wait wait wait.....

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                • #308
                  It is well expected that the 3rd RTR installation is gonna be launched within a couple of months as this is the time of the year when RTRs are launched specifically.Carb version and FI difference I cannot say anything.But the FI version should be made standard.We dont need a carb on a High performance bike.This can also be the classic case of performance carb being tested for road bikes on first few bikes.

                  I think keeping our fingers crossed and gettin a scoop picture should be our only motive here,we can speculate elsewhere.
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                  • #309
                    Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
                    carbed............?????????????????
                    i doubt it.......
                    Me Too But the guy said like that
                    Originally posted by jayprashanth View Post
                    I don't get it. Why, the carbed version when FI can be launched straightaway? The 180FI can be positioned to take on the R15/P220 with a clear demarcation between the 160FI as the FI will be higher priced. This is what I hate about the manufacturers: milking the market.
                    The TVS Don't Want To Drop The Sales Of RTR 160 FI When The RTR 180 FI Also Launched So That They Are Launching The Carb First(Jus My Guess )
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                    • #310
                      It could be the carb'ed version because TVS might wanna use them in this year's RRC. To be able to do that they need to get it homologated and for homologation they need to manufacture & sell a number of 'em. I recall TVS team trying the rtr 160 fi on track but felt carb'ed rtr's were better suited for RRC. So this could be a reason for the launching the carb 180 first.

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                      • #311
                        Originally posted by ACE_HUNTER View Post
                        The TVS Don't Want To Drop The Sales Of RTR 160 FI When The RTR 180 FI Also Launched So That They Are Launching The Carb First(Jus My Guess )

                        I feel the other way round. say the RTR 180 FI is placed around 88K and then place the carb at 82K then the carb will eat up the 180 FI's sales. So I its right to place the carb at 82 first, see the demand/defects/improvements needed and then place the Fi at 88+K

                        well Y the carb version at all? so that we can tweak it easily..
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                        • #312
                          I have another question..

                          Why would anyone buy the RTR 160 Fi, when he can get a much powerful flagship carb RTR 180..??

                          The RTR 160 Fi is almost priced almost on the same level as the FZ16 and still I have definitely seen more FZ16's on the road compared to the 160 Fi (which by the way surprises me )..

                          and considering by what that has been posted so far, the RTR 180 won't be too costly than the FZ16.. in that case I can't see the RTR 180 not eating into RTR 160 Fi's sales.



                          Last edited by payeng; 04-04-2009, 12:08 AM.

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                          • #313
                            Originally posted by payeng View Post
                            I have another question..

                            Why would anyone buy the RTR 160 Fi, when he can get a much powerful flagship carb RTR 180..??

                            The RTR 160 Fi is almost priced almost on the same level as the FZ16 and still I have definitely seen more FZ16's on the road compared to the 160 Fi (which by the way surprises me )..

                            and considering by what that has been posted so far, the RTR 180 won't be too costly than the FZ16.. in that case I can't see the RTR 180 not eating into RTR 160 Fi's sales.




                            point hai.
                            other people are just goin for fz is cause of its company.
                            actually they dont know what rtr is capable of.m i rite?
                            Last edited by snehil; 04-04-2009, 12:13 AM. Reason: sms lang
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                            • #314
                              Originally posted by ACE_HUNTER View Post
                              The TVS Don't Want To Drop The Sales Of RTR 160 FI When The RTR 180 FI Also Launched So That They Are Launching The Carb First(Jus My Guess )
                              Its not got to do with the sales etc. In fact its far from it. From the people I spoke to, TVS wants to steady itself in the Fi-market and iron out niggles and make sure dealers are better equipped. The 160 Fi will do it for them. The 180 Fi will only be launched later(in fact MUCH later). Till then its the 180 carb.

                              @Payeng: Many reasons man. First its Yamaha brand name. Added to that, the FZ is a lot more appealing and its much smoother too.
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                              • #315
                                Originally posted by Aparajith View Post
                                @Payeng: Many reasons man. First its Yamaha brand name. Added to that, the FZ is a lot more appealing and its much smoother too.
                                Smoother than the RTR the FZ definitely is.. but then so is the latest 150 cc in the market, the Suzuki GS150R.. isn't it?

                                Also it isn't the Yamaha Brand alone which sells.. had that been the reason, the market would have at least been flodded with Gladiators (if not the Alba's and Crux's)..


                                this is what one would typically see of the FZ on road.

                                >> the FAT Rear Tyres from the rear,
                                >> Unique Headlamp and FAT Front Forks from the front and
                                >> PUFFED up Tank from the side


                                I have ridden the FZ16.. the engine's smooth and the handling is definitely good, but even then I would say that it is the "Bike on Steroids Looks" which is the prime selling point of the FZ.

                                Can anyone answer this: How different the GS150R technically (in terms of the technology gone into the bikes) from the FZ16..??


                                Lesson for TVS to learn from the FZ16: If it just resorts to the Bajaj Pulsar way (of 20 cc and a few bhp upgrades) for its RTR 180... but with Minimal Changes in LOOKS.. the FZ16 might still continue to outsell it.


                                The RTR 180 better be Special LOOKING.

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