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**Joel** · 04-14-2009, 07:58 PM

The rear was switched to 17" for better conering.
Last week during my trackday at Kari, I put a 17" spoked wheel at the rear of my RTR with the R15 rubbers and the bike was easily out handling a stock RTR.
So that means a lot.

The promising part is the performance. All the rumours here, created the wrong expectation about the RTR 180 which is no fault of the bike or TVS.
The bike pumps as much power as a p200 on paper.

**46 the Greatest ever** · 04-14-2009, 08:19 PM

So the FI 180 is also on the line up...may be later as you said.

I will, however, go for the FI 180 since I will never be modifying my bike and because of overall better ride (just like the FI RTR 160 offers a better overall ride than the non FI RTR 160).

**pulsar_flame** · 04-14-2009, 11:33 PM

oh god so nothing new from tvs same old story!

**payeng** · 04-14-2009, 11:44 PM

Originally posted by Joel View Post

I have seen the bike in flesh about a few months ago.
Just wanted to clarify a few things on this thread.
1. For heavens sake this bike is not called MENACE, its the TVS Apache RTR 180 only
2. Nobody from TVS said the bike is half faired and has projectors. It was the usual rumour monkers on this forum who did so. So I'm sure expectations were wrongly set.

3. The pics are very very close to the actual product and its not fake. Its the prototype RTR 180.

4. The rear tyre is indeed a TVS 110/80 - 17 pattern of the existing RTR 160 rubber.
5. The dials and the paint scheme is for real and thats to distinguish the RTR 180.
6. The RTR180 will be introduced with a BS29 Mikuni CV carb which I personally feel is the best bet for tuning. An FI engine is for later, a few months after this.
7. The engine size remains the same. The stroke length has been upped with the same piston size and the head is also physically the same. No need to make the cylinder visually bigger coz the bore size is not upped.
8. The bike will have a few subtile styling changes over the existing RTR160, something like what the P200 is to the P180. However the loud RTR lettering on the side scoops is very unlikely to make it to production.
9. Rear disc is standard and the rest of the cycle parts are pretty much the same as the RTR 160.

Hope this clears a lot of doubts.

P150/180/200/220.. Deja Vu..??

Originally posted by Joel View Post

The rear was switched to 17" for better conering.
Last week during my trackday at Kari, I put a 17" spoked wheel at the rear of my RTR with the R15 rubbers and the bike was easily out handling a stock RTR.
So that means a lot.

The promising part is the performance. All the rumours here, created the wrong expectation about the RTR 180 which is no fault of the bike or TVS.
The bike pumps as much power as a p200 on paper.

Ok 18 Ps then..

Which means if the RTR 180 is a light bike (like the RTR 160, which now looks possible).. the R15 might have a tough time on the track.

**bprags** · 04-14-2009, 11:50 PM

Originally posted by payeng View Post

P150/180/200/220.. Deja Vu..??

From the comments that I have read here, the performance diff between P180 & P200 ain't that great. Lets see how good the RTR 180 is in relation to RTR 160.

**chicane1879** · 04-15-2009, 12:21 AM

The 17inch rim size would also aid in improving the bike's ride quality along with the handling!!

**Puneet1** · 04-15-2009, 12:51 AM

Originally posted by chicane1879 View Post

The 17inch rim size would also aid in improving the bike's ride quality along with the handling!!

The only thing it will aid is in switching to a R15 tyre

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**satyenpoojary** · 04-15-2009, 02:14 AM

Originally posted by payeng View Post

P150/180/200/220.. Deja Vu..??

RX100\RX135
Splendour 100\100\100\100\100\125

Thats the way we do biking man... small steps at a time...

So now we have had a 160CC RTR that in the right hands gave the P200 a run for its money.... now we have a 180CC RTR which on paper provides as much power as does the P200... so technically that means it will give a run for the money for the P220 as well

Coz Bajaj has some serious problems when it comes to reporting numbers pertaining to their bikes... be it the CC, the power output or the mileage!

**chicane1879** · 04-15-2009, 08:53 AM

Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post

..so technically that means it will give a run for the money for the P220 as well

Indeed..I am just hoping that the "fastest" claims are made by TVS and is not just a rumour!!

**santoosh** · 04-15-2009, 09:42 AM

Dunno y ppl end up having so much expectation based on rumours.

Told u this would be the bike.
The 17 " tyre and the carb , im sure it ll be priced between 160 & the zma's price.

Good deal. Im sure it ll make a lovely stunt bike.. Awesome wheelies for sure on it.

Bs29-- room for expansion.
having an fi 160 and a carb 180 , they are offering good choice to the customer.

Confident its gonna be a quick bike with lesser vibes than 160 , let alone it be a fast one or not. N sure its gonna be more fun to ride in the city.

Santa

**m1g** · 04-15-2009, 11:14 AM

God if TVS is listening.. pleeeeeeeease TVS! some visual updates!
Get feedback from anyone, they'll say the same thing..

The 200 worked so well coz the changes worked extremely well..

The difference as of now between the RTR160/180 is more like the visual difference(rather the lack of) between the P150/180..Which just sucks!

You even updated the 160 bit by bit over time..I think the 160Fi should look like this 180, and the 180 should be considerably different looking that these two..

Ill give you a example..Most of my friends, who own bikes but aren't really obsessed about it (majority of people in india), dont even know the RTR Fi exists..
Reason? little visual difference to leave an impression..Its almost the same 160 going by..So a prospective 180 owner doesnt want that!

In the end, we don't want India's (about-to-be) freakin' fastest accelerating bike looking the same as the 160!! You have a awesome design team! Use it!

About the rest, the engine, handling, we have trust in you! (proud 160 owner here! :-)

**bprags** · 04-15-2009, 11:28 AM

Looking at the reaction here, I guess TVS might further delay the launch of RTR 180.

**Joel** · 04-15-2009, 02:45 PM

The RTR180 indeed looks different from the 160 coz of the styling changes to the rear, paint scheme and the decals.
The power output of the bike is close to the p200 on paper but rest assured it will kill the R15. Which means the p220 is also not spared. Now this is based on the tests by TVS at their test facility using their team riders and not some uncles who race on the street.
The RTR has always been a pocket rocket among the current 4-strokes and a bang for the buck.
A few pointers why the RTR 180 will be better than the competition is,
Pricing, will be priced cheaper than all the performance bikes and just a few bucks over the FZ.
Highest torque and power to weight ratio.
light handling and an awesome tracktool
Very good fuel efficiency
And offers the highest VFM
The RTR 180 has a good package to literally kill the p200/p180/p220/R15 and maybe the RTR 160 FI itself. The RTR 160 FI and RTR 180 wont have too much of a price difference and buyers will sure be confused to pick their ride

**Thunder** · 04-15-2009, 02:47 PM

Hang on guys.......Better react after the release........

No one knows what the actual product is gonna be.......wait and watch for the thrilll......

TVS is gonna do the wait and play here....

**mzone** · 04-15-2009, 02:50 PM

Originally posted by Joel View Post

The RTR 180 has a good package to literally kill the p200/p180/p220/R15 and maybe the RTR 160 FI itself. The RTR 160 FI and RTR 180 wont have too much of a price difference and buyers will sure be confused to pick their ride

That was exactly what I was thinkin! Now you making me feel bad for buying an RTR 160 just one and a half month back...

BTW when is it going to hit the showrooms? Any tentative dates? 1 month? 2 months?

And Joel any news about the performance kit for the 160 which might make it perform as well if not better than the 180 ?

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