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Originally posted by 46 the Greatest ever View Postwhy do we insist and cry for Honda, Yamaha and Suzuki to launch motorcycles with latest tech when we have people like you who think better top speed makes for a better bike and performance!!!
awe...Yamaha would definitely say that our bike (R15) is worthless even with all this wonderful chassis, suspension, engine and ride quality just because some other bike has a bloody better top speed with less gizmos!!!
R15 is the true evolution in the Indian motorcycle scene, but why would you care. u just want something with better top speed like its never gonna get beaten by some other bike in future
who is talking about its chassis and suspension now...i was jus talking about its technology associated with the engine ...
@satyen:have taken it at 13x speeds and know wat a rtr and a r15 is capable of..Comment
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and why not talk about chassis and suspension too, aren't they part of technology???!!!!Originally posted by pradeep reddy View Post
I am not taking anything away from Indian motorcycles, but yes, with R15 Yamaha has made sportbike technology, feel and ride available to the Indian masses. R15 is the path to the tomorrow's sport oriented motorcycles in India. And why can't u praise that???Comment
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I hope this Apache variant just kicks up the sales for TVS, if Joel is correct the Apache series may well head the Fiero way!
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Originally posted by Joel View PostOriginally posted by Joel View Post^Ok, with joel spilling this much...looks like the launch of rtr 180 is not far away.Originally posted by Joel View PostThe RTR180 indeed looks different from the 160 coz of the styling changes to the rear, paint scheme and the decals.
The power output of the bike is close to the p200 on paper but rest assured it will kill the R15. Which means the p220 is also not spared. Now this is based on the tests by TVS at their test facility using their team riders and not some uncles who race on the street.
The RTR has always been a pocket rocket among the current 4-strokes and a bang for the buck.
A few pointers why the RTR 180 will be better than the competition is,
Pricing, will be priced cheaper than all the performance bikes and just a few bucks over the FZ.
Highest torque and power to weight ratio.
light handling and an awesome tracktool
Very good fuel efficiency
And offers the highest VFM
The RTR 180 has a good package to literally kill the p200/p180/p220/R15 and maybe the RTR 160 FI itself. The RTR 160 FI and RTR 180 wont have too much of a price difference and buyers will sure be confused to pick their ride
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Originally posted by Joel View PostThe RTR180 indeed looks different from the 160 coz of the styling changes to the rear, paint scheme and the decals.
The power output of the bike is close to the p200 on paper but rest assured it will kill the R15. Which means the p220 is also not spared. Now this is based on the tests by TVS at their test facility using their team riders and not some uncles who race on the street.
The RTR has always been a pocket rocket among the current 4-strokes and a bang for the buck.
A few pointers why the RTR 180 will be better than the competition is,
Pricing, will be priced cheaper than all the performance bikes and just a few bucks over the FZ.Highest torque and power to weight ratio.
light handling and an awesome tracktool
Very good fuel efficiency
And offers the highest VFM
The RTR 180 has a good package to literally kill the p200/p180/p220/R15 and maybe the RTR 160 FI itself. The RTR 160 FI and RTR 180 wont have too much of a price difference and buyers will sure be confused to pick their ride
Am happy!
My bro will be happier tooOriginally posted by Joel View Post
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will the rtr 180 hav split seats ??Comment
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It will not be launched before June according to Showroom people. I guess June is a slow season for bikes at that time TVS will find it easy to sustain the market as the demand of the RTR180 should be very highNever upgrade without getting your basics RIGHT.Comment
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Really good Info guys, cant wait till this beast launchesComment
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With ABSOriginally posted by satyenpoojary View Post
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Errr, i just cant agree to this. But i do agree with thee pulsars.Originally posted by santoosh View Post
All the TVS 4-strokes have been very well sorted and NVH has been on par with the rest of the jap makers. Lets not talk about the bland Hondas, but TVS having adopted a lot of the Suzuki culture, the engines will typically have a mix of refinement and a bit of the crude feel. Ride any Suzuki and you'll know what I mean. They are never butter smooth, but no grinders either.
The less said about Bajaj, the better.
Ride a very well maintained Fiero and you'll know if a TVS is grinder like a pulsar or not. FYI, the Fiero's engine was optimised right here at Hosur by the TVS team.
The RTRs have indeed been vibey and thats coz of the short stroke nature. Ride even a CBR150 or an FXR 150 and you'll why a short stroke cant be like an R15. There is a lot of inertial load on a short stroke crank due to its higher revving nature.
The RTR 180 has the Fiero stroke which is a lot more balanced and I have personally done an RTR 180 conversion on an RTR 160 more than a year ago. The vibes instanlty came down and the engine was a lot more relaxed.
The RTR 180 is in its final stages of testing and the NVH levels are close to the original Fiero. The valve train has been reworked and clearances have been changed. So no need of assuming that it will be a grinder. It will be close to a smoothie
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Thats pretty much Nice to hear ----- well so any way the engine and other Performance related things are known to eveyone....so we can expect a good R-1-5 beater .....Originally posted by Joel View PostErrr, i just cant agree to this. But i do agree with thee pulsars.
The RTR 180 is in its final stages of testing and the NVH levels are close to the original Fiero. The valve train has been reworked and clearances have been changed. So no need of assuming that it will be a grinder. It will be close to a smoothie
Lets come to the console part RTR has one of the best Digital COnsoles - which incorporates almost everything that more than a Bike needs of.......
Now what can we expect in the new RTR 180......... Expectations plz................Comment
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I beg to differ. Read the last couple of pages on the Apache RTR/FI thread. It paints a different story from Ownership point of viewOriginally posted by Thunder View Post
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Yes....Every Riders will have different opinions......Not evey bike will have the same state......
My friends have RTR its nearing some 1.5 years......but there are no Probs with them.......
But does any Indian Bikes in India has these option in thier consoles as the RTR has.........!!!!
Ok let it be - im just waiting for the Expectations on RTR 180........Comment
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You referring to the data loggers rite? Really fun feature to have! Proof for all your performance claims!Originally posted by Thunder View Post
A few things I would like to see which the 160 lacks are self canceling indicators, side stand light, gear position indicator & a gear change rev light. Oh & a programmable 0-any speed timer !
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