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  • Originally posted by bharathkkr View Post
    Rahul, Superb job on Twin Beam HID..

    Just loved reading this thread.. Now I am planning to put by Noob brain to work on my P220 ...

    Was going thru the links posted in the thread..

    I thought this is good offer.. What do u say?

    Raptor Hid kits

    Raptor Brand 35W HID Kit - for just 4000 Rps (free shipping) (offer lasts for a week)

    Available Options:
    Wattage: 35W
    Colour: 6000k
    Bulb Type: H7

    I Hope this is straight fit for P220 dtsi?

    Should I go for this?

    If not please let me know the shop address in bangalore?
    Originally posted by sajanjosepht View Post
    If the shipping co can handle the customs clearence, its a good offer, else its going to be a painful affair.Quoted is excluding the shipping chargs, add another 30 for Intl shipping, so its costing around 86.25+30=$116.25 ie; 5800. Not bad at all, as the local shops r charging the same from 8K onwards for a std ballast kit, whereas this one is a slim ballast.

    Normal overseas purchase shipping charges doesnt include the clearence issues, those who made any purchases from Ebay.com might be knowing this.
    Originally posted by bharathkkr View Post
    Yes there will be charges of 30$ for International shipping.

    Please see this link Shipping information

    As sajanjosepht said.. Still this is a good deal
    Is Raptor a reputed brand? What about warranty?

    At about 6K, it's an overkill. Even at 4K, it would better to buy branded kits with warranty. Chinese ones comes as low as 4K with warranty!

    There are many shops in JC Road, stocking HID Kits. It's a car HID kit, so no problem in finding them. I bought mine from CarNStyle.
    Been There, Done That; Better!

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    • Originally posted by rahuldevnath View Post
      To check whether it's a battery problem or RR Unit, simply start the bike, let it run on idle, switch on the light (one beam), wait till Low Batt starts flashing. Now Rev your bike to about 4K RPM. See if it warning stays or not. Also switch off and then back on the light, while revving and check if you get low bat warning or not.

      If it's goes after revving that means battery is gone, else the RR Unit.

      For wiring you can buy single, thicker gauge wiring used for house wiring, not very thick though.

      BTW you are using 2X55 Watts! Just be thankful even if you can see a glimpse of two beams!!

      But surely it will affect even a new battery, because charge cycle will too heavy!
      Did the test. Looks like battery is the culprit. As i said before the low battery indication goes when revved till as low as 2k rpm.
      I plan to increase my idling to about 1.8k rpm.

      PS- Iam getting inclined towards HID's now. Just a thought, is a 55W HID available? I cant afford HID's for both beams anytime soon. 1 Beam for about 4k, yeah i can find ways for the money. So thinking of 55W HID (if available) in low beam and 100W best quality halogen bulb in high beam. I know that high beam reflector is at risk. But i will use high beam only for flashing purposes. I plan to make it also a dual beam setup but wont use it except for flashing.
      Comments Please.

      A doubt. U use 2 HID's. Whenever u shift from single beam to dual beam and vice versa there will be some delay for the power source to change. Doest that shifting delay damage the ballast? During that interval doesnt the low beam get marginally dim?
      In my hypothetical case (55W HID + 100W Halogen), what if i keep on flashing continuously when low beam (HID) is on? Will the HID get damaged? Iam not worried about battery for time being.

      Originally posted by drvmtm View Post
      holy god!!!what u guys started doing man?KUDOS TO YOU.
      first a twin beam hid then a twin beam halo mod!!OH MY GOD!
      really ,how much wattage is there in stock pulsy 220 dtsi?i am just curious!
      currently own a sweet ug 2 180 and runnin avy coil and phillips xtream power bulb55/60 and soon will upgrade to 220 dtsi only for the LIGHT reason,yes tats enough for me.again KUDOS to u guys!!!!!
      Thanks for the sweet words doc.
      All credit goes to Rahul Devnath and Abhijeet. Mine is his Pirated Copyrighted work.
      The P220 coil can provide lots of power. My battery is the culprit. Once i get a new one i can get even better results and will know the true potential of the coil.
      Last edited by rahul9985; 12-01-2009, 01:52 AM.
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      • If im not wrong , its a 232 watt 3 phase stator coil .

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        • Originally posted by bharathkkr View Post
          Rahul, Superb job on Twin Beam HID..

          Just loved reading this thread.. Now I am planning to put by Noob brain to work on my P220 ...

          Was going thru the links posted in the thread..

          I thought this is good offer.. What do u say?

          Raptor Hid kits

          Raptor Brand 35W HID Kit - for just 4000 Rps (free shipping) (offer lasts for a week)

          Available Options:
          Wattage: 35W
          Colour: 6000k
          Bulb Type: H7

          I Hope this is straight fit for P220 dtsi?

          Should I go for this?

          If not please let me know the shop address in bangalore?
          I have HIDs for sale but they are all 4300k have all holder types.PM for more details.

          Originally posted by rahul9985 View Post
          A doubt. U use 2 HID's. Whenever u shift from single beam to dual beam and vice versa there will be some delay for the power source to change. Doest that shifting delay damage the ballast? During that interval doesnt the low beam get marginally dim?
          In my hypothetical case (55W HID + 100W Halogen), what if i keep on flashing continuously when low beam (HID) is on? Will the HID get damaged? Iam not worried about battery for time being.
          Switching from high to low beam wont damage the ballast. the ballasts is made for taking the maximum beating . If the voltage is low the ballast will automatically shut down. and if the voltage is too high it has a cut out. The ballasts are hardcore man dont worry about it . I would just worry about your wires . Make sure they have a fire proof sleeve

          I am running 2 HIDs on my R15 now from a few weeks. Earlier i just had one HID. And if a R15s punny battery can take the 2 hids and the electrical am sure the p220s battery should work well .
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          • Originally posted by rahul9985 View Post
            PS- Iam getting inclined towards HID's now. Just a thought, is a 55W HID available? I cant afford HID's for both beams anytime soon. 1 Beam for about 4k, yeah i can find ways for the money. So thinking of 55W HID (if available) in low beam and 100W best quality halogen bulb in high beam. I know that high beam reflector is at risk. But i will use high beam only for flashing purposes. I plan to make it also a dual beam setup but wont use it except for flashing.
            Comments Please.
            55W HID's are difficult to find, and no, they DO NOT provide any significant increase in light output. Best is to go for 35W, proven, easily available and easy on bikes as well.

            100W, would definitely crack the Hi Beam! But anyways when you have a 220, why do you want a 100W, when 2 HID's can provide best illumination?
            And I think both the beam together are the best, better than single 100W.

            Dude in 4K you can get 2 beams. Though of Chinese brand, but with Warranty. I would suggest you go for that, from my experience Chinese works perfectly.



            Originally posted by rahul9985 View Post
            A doubt. U use 2 HID's. Whenever u shift from single beam to dual beam and vice versa there will be some delay for the power source to change. Doest that shifting delay damage the ballast? During that interval doesnt the low beam get marginally dim?
            In my hypothetical case (55W HID + 100W Halogen), what if i keep on flashing continuously when low beam (HID) is on? Will the HID get damaged? Iam not worried about battery for time being.
            The shifting is almost instantaneous, about few milli seconds. And you won't see any dimming or flickering while going to dual mode and vice versa.

            It won't damage the HID as such, if 100Ws of extra load doesn't over stress the electrical.
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            • Originally posted by santoosh View Post
              If im not wrong , its a 232 watt 3 phase stator coil .
              Santa
              Are u sure it can generate 232W of power?
              How do u know?

              Originally posted by navnish View Post
              Switching from high to low beam wont damage the ballast. the ballasts is made for taking the maximum beating . If the voltage is low the ballast will automatically shut down. and if the voltage is too high it has a cut out. The ballasts are hardcore man dont worry about it . I would just worry about your wires . Make sure they have a fire proof sleeve

              I am running 2 HIDs on my R15 now from a few weeks. Earlier i just had one HID. And if a R15s punny battery can take the 2 hids and the electrical am sure the p220s battery should work well .
              Thats good news for me. If incase i go for such a setup i would make sure i go for better wires for sure.

              Originally posted by rahuldevnath View Post
              55W HID's are difficult to find, and no, they DO NOT provide any significant increase in light output. Best is to go for 35W, proven, easily available and easy on bikes as well.

              100W, would definitely crack the Hi Beam! But anyways when you have a 220, why do you want a 100W, when 2 HID's can provide best illumination?
              And I think both the beam together are the best, better than single 100W.

              Dude in 4K you can get 2 beams. Though of Chinese brand, but with Warranty. I would suggest you go for that, from my experience Chinese works perfectly.
              Crack?
              2 HID's are always better but i also need the pass light. People are quite careless here while crossing the roads. They just stop in the middle. To alert them i need the pass light. So i cant use an HID for high beam. Still iam thinking. After i collect the money i have decided to go for a low beam HID for sure. Would think about the high beam later.
              Will there be any difference in illumination provided by the Chinese ones? AFAIK 4300K provides the best illumination.


              Originally posted by rahuldevnath View Post
              The shifting is almost instantaneous, about few milli seconds. And you won't see any dimming or flickering while going to dual mode and vice versa.

              It won't damage the HID as such, if 100Ws of extra load doesn't over stress the electrical.
              Good to hear that.

              For time being i have turned back to stock till the time my battery issue gets resolved. Then i will use the dual beam setup.
              Perhaps i may need a better RR. Iam planning to design one.
              In the future i would use either single or dual HID's. But have to collect money for the same. How about Philips HID's? Someone was telling me they cost about 14k per pair. Me and my friend can take one beam each. Are they really worth so much? Can the normal ones also provide the same intensity?
              Last edited by rahul9985; 12-02-2009, 02:13 AM.
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              • I read something called as magazines ,brouchers and I interact with people .hear things and remember.

                I just happened to read it even before the 220 dts fi was launched.This is from 2006.
                200 watt 3 phase magneto may be exact.
                Google it if you are so doubtful , You ll find it .else ask me if you cant find it , will send link.
                still doubtful , remove the coil measure it yourself . No rocket science.
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                • Originally posted by rahul9985 View Post
                  Thats good news for me. If incase i go for such a setup i would make sure i go for better wires for sure.
                  I don't think you will need better wires than the stock one. You have a fuse and a very sensitive stupid box called "BCU" So wires are the least of the concern.



                  Originally posted by rahul9985 View Post
                  Crack?
                  2 HID's are always better but i also need the pass light. People are quite careless here while crossing the roads. They just stop in the middle. To alert them i need the pass light. So i cant use an HID for high beam. Still iam thinking. After i collect the money i have decided to go for a low beam HID for sure. Would think about the high beam later.
                  Will there be any difference in illumination provided by the Chinese ones? AFAIK 4300K provides the best illumination.
                  You can also try using both beams and then use pass beam, when needed. Basically once the HID are heated up, you can use them as pass as well.

                  There's no difference in light intesnisty, but from I experience I was see Chineese ones slowly loosing it's intesity. That takes about atleast 8K kilometers of riding.



                  Originally posted by rahul9985 View Post
                  Good to hear that.

                  For time being i have turned back to stock till the time my battery issue gets resolved. Then i will use the dual beam setup.
                  Perhaps i may need a better RR. Iam planning to design one.
                  In the future i would use either single or dual HID's. But have to collect money for the same. How about Philips HID's? Someone was telling me they cost about 14k per pair. Me and my friend can take one beam each. Are they really worth so much? Can the normal ones also provide the same intensity?
                  I would advice against, modifying much on 220, especially FI. Else change the wiring and remove the BCU, and get to manual.

                  Phillips one are just 7~8K. I don't find them any great compared to Raylux. After all Phillips is also made in China, but much better quality. Genuine Bosch is better though.
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                  • Originally posted by rahuldevnath View Post
                    Phillips one are just 7~8K. I don't find them any great compared to Raylux. After all Phillips is also made in China, but much better quality. Genuine Bosch is better though.
                    Where do u find genuine Bosch or Philips HID and price u mentioned is for a pair, right?

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                    • Originally posted by Shreeni0403 View Post
                      Where do u find genuine Bosch or Philips HID and price u mentioned is for a pair, right?
                      Yes, Phillips H7 pair is about 7.5 K with normal ballasts. Bosch should be same. There are many dealers in JC Road for the Phillips, but haven't seen any dealers for Bosch.
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                      • Originally posted by santoosh View Post
                        If im not wrong , its a 232 watt 3 phase stator coil .

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                        +!. Even I heard the same. But, in case of FI, that power runs the fuel pump, injectors too. So, it is not safe to load it to the max.
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                        • so some more !!!

                          so guys does tat mean pulsy 220 dtsi is having some more power unused comparing to 220 DTSFI? if tat is true then in dtsi,we can use an extra spot lamp or fog lamp about 55w ,one at least?i am attaching some photos ,please comment.......
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                          • nO eXtra power , Its the same on FI and SI (Both are virtually the same bike man) , The FI pump and ECu consume hardly any power > i can vouch for that .

                            R15 with 3.5 amp battery running 2 HID's for 25k kms and 21/6 tail lamp bulb + ECU + FI Pump + Radiator Fan + horn + 5 w indicator bulb.

                            Running all these at once and still there is enough Juice . that’s on 3.5 Ah battery . You guys have 9Ah and a 200+ watt coil .

                            Distribute power well/sensibly and you can run almost anything .

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                            • Originally posted by santoosh View Post
                              nO eXtra power , Its the same on FI and SI (Both are virtually the same bike man) , The FI pump and ECu consume hardly any power > i can vouch for that .

                              R15 with 3.5 amp battery running 2 HID's for 25k kms and 21/6 tail lamp bulb + ECU + FI Pump + Radiator Fan + horn + 5 w indicator bulb.



                              Distribute power well/sensibly and you can run almost anything .

                              Santa
                              I thought the R15 comes with 5ah battery.
                              Bcz to the best of what I know, batteries are available in 2.5ah, 5ah, 7ah, 9ah and 14ah for 2 wheelers.

                              Where did 3.5 come from !!

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                              • Originally posted by santoosh View Post
                                nO eXtra power , Its the same on FI and SI (Both are virtually the same bike man) , The FI pump and ECu consume hardly any power > i can vouch for that .

                                R15 with 3.5 amp battery running 2 HID's for 25k kms and 21/6 tail lamp bulb + ECU + FI Pump + Radiator Fan + horn + 5 w indicator bulb.



                                Distribute power well/sensibly and you can run almost anything .

                                Santa
                                And how powerful is the R15 alternator? I bet it is more than 200W.

                                And battery capacity does not really affect how much load the bike can take on a constant basis, alternator capacity does.
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