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  • MavericK46
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    Originally posted by Killer View Post
    In terms of pure physics, the advantages of the new-school style of riding cannot be denied. The lower and farther off to the inside the rider gets his body, the more upright the bike is around a given radius at a given speed. Pure and simple, more is better, so long as your body position doesn't compromise your ability to stay connected to the bike so you can feel what's happening at both contact patches and maintain light and precise inputs on the controls. Since the days of rigid frames and spoked wheels, riding styles are constantly changing. Bike and tire technology, like time, marches forward and waits for no man-not even Schwantz or Doohan.
    That explains perfectly, the different riding styles adopted by Mike Hailwood, Kenny Roberts Jr, kevin Schwantz, Mick Doohan and Rossi
    Rossi's style is kinda like a mixture of grace and hooliganism methinks. Makes him so goddamn watchable.

    @Killer : Reducing the amount of bike lean and concentrating more on body position is recommended on our desi machines or on the firang multi cylinders (OR on both even)..?

    P.S : Let me clarify that the discussion is purely for track riding. Im never gonna take a chance on the street with all the four legged cattle and the two legged variety too...

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  • Puneet1
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    what location have the 2 Pics posted taken from ??

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  • Killer
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    @Ken cool: Nothing wrong with you body posture, its just a bit old school (atleast it looks so from the pics). Maybe this link will help you understand the differences in old and new techniques as far as body posture is concerned.

    Body Position: Old School Vs. New School - Eric Bostrom - Sport Rider Magazine

    At the limits of traction there are advantages and disadvantages to both. For the street though, you're never pushing to such limits, so theres no need for such a 'commited' posture like Eric Bostroms. When you do get to push the limits though, the last paragraph in that link summarises it perfectly - to quote -

    In terms of pure physics, the advantages of the new-school style of riding cannot be denied. The lower and farther off to the inside the rider gets his body, the more upright the bike is around a given radius at a given speed. Pure and simple, more is better, so long as your body position doesn't compromise your ability to stay connected to the bike so you can feel what's happening at both contact patches and maintain light and precise inputs on the controls. Since the days of rigid frames and spoked wheels, riding styles are constantly changing. Bike and tire technology, like time, marches forward and waits for no man-not even Schwantz or Doohan.

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  • DriftKingNT
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    Originally posted by spiderweb View Post
    Hey bro, I'll still advice you not to perform them on city roads, we got loads of ghats fer it... n specially doing it in a wrong position can screw up things badly... ask Motor, he screws up things even in perfect positions... LOL!!! (JK motor, dnt get ANGRY!!!)
    n I hope you wear a Knee guard...
    You are right. I will stop doing that from now or atleast do it less often. I dont have knee pads. Just Gloves and Helmet.

    The Place a wide 90 and you can keep an eye on the on-coming traffic. Well I am a noob in leaning. My best lean on R15 was when the Feeler on the footpeg was 2-3 inch above the ground and one on my sis's Flyte, this was better than that on the R15, and this time my front wheel had skidded but luckily didnt fall.

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  • calvin
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    ^^ i agree with what you are saying...

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  • spiderweb
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    Originally posted by Aryan View Post
    Perhaps the upper body position (shoulder-head part) could be in a better position.. However, experts (like Killer and Joel) would be better to point out the postive(s), negative(s) than me.

    By the way, what speeds were the corner(s) taken at?
    Whatever speed you are comfertable In... n even the speed u feel safer In.
    We guys in Mumbai do it mostly around @ 90 km/ph. i guess, not exactly sure, but they are the best in the ghats of Ambi n Lonavla.
    What say @ Calvin n Shiva???

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  • spiderweb
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    Originally posted by DriftKingNT View Post
    LOL.

    @Joel No track in this region so I have to do it on City Roads. I dont take the knees out though.
    Hey bro, I'll still advice you not to perform them on city roads, we got loads of ghats fer it... n specially doing it in a wrong position can screw up things badly... ask Motor, he screws up things even in perfect positions... LOL!!! (JK motor, dnt get ANGRY!!!)
    n I hope you wear a Knee guard...

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  • calvin
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    Originally posted by Joel View Post
    But trust me, I'll never dare do any of this cornering stunt anywhere outside the track. Coz to get the right lean, u need to carry really high corner speeds and pin the throttle, which is close to impossible on street roads. Hatts off to all those who can do them.

    thanks a lot buddy...
    i was really feeling way damn down after looking at you guys doing that stuff on track...

    @ MG: yup bro... we have plenty of Ghats to do this stuff and we enjoy it a lot...

    but i think doing it on a proper track would definitely boost our skills...

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  • DriftKingNT
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    Originally posted by ken cool View Post
    I was concentrating on not mowing down Sunny moving/standing in the middle of the road.
    LOL.

    @Joel No track in this region so I have to do it on City Roads. I dont take the knees out though.

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  • Joel
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    But trust me, I'll never dare do any of this cornering stunt anywhere outside the track. Coz to get the right lean, u need to carry really high corner speeds and pin the throttle, which is close to impossible on street roads. Hatts off to all those who can do them.

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  • chicane1879
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    Yeah, that is what i meant.Were you at triple-digit speeds?

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  • ken cool
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    Originally posted by chicane1879 View Post
    @ken

    In the 2nd pic, it seems that the bike is running off the line and that is why the body position looks countering the force to bring the back into the line.Isn't it??
    In the 2nd pic it is nearly over, I am through with the corner. I am getting the bike back to straight line.

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  • chicane1879
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    @ken

    In the 2nd pic, it seems that the bike is running off the line and that is why the body position looks countering the force to bring the back into the line.Isn't it??

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  • ken cool
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    Originally posted by Aryan View Post
    Perhaps the upper body position (shoulder-head part) could be in a better position.. However, experts (like Killer and Joel) would be better to point out the postive(s), negative(s) than me.

    By the way, what speeds were the corner(s) taken at?
    I realised y'day when I saw the pix back home that the head is all wrong. It would be good to hear the experts speak in this regard.

    I have no idea what speeds coz all the time I was concentrating on not mowing down Sunny moving/standing in the middle of the road.

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  • Aryan
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    Perhaps the upper body position (shoulder-head part) could be in a better position.. However, experts (like Killer and Joel) would be better to point out the postive(s), negative(s) than me.

    By the way, what speeds were the corner(s) taken at?
    Last edited by Aryan; 12-14-2008, 11:57 PM.

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