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  • Xenologik
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    whoops ! edited : i have so much to learn


    Killer , sir a few questions from my side

    - Im still very much new to this cornering stuff, of course i have Been leaning to take corners in ghats since the bike feels much more controllable.

    -however i feel that i always take the wrong line to take the corner, i always been having slowing down in the corner since im shooting out of it.

    -the problem with the steering the bike it seems is that i feel the front is going to slide off. Can't figure it out why since im running pretty much new IRC tyres which have barely done 5k kms. I have a cbz-xtreme. and yes my suspension isn't spongy and the rear shockers are stiff as well

    -about the leaning position, its it the body weight shifting which actually is supposed to turn the bike around the corner ? and not primarily forceful steering of the handlebars ?

    i dont have any pics as of yet to post. ill try to post tomorrow, maybe then you could judge what is exactly wrong with my skills

    regards
    Sudeep
    Last edited by Xenologik; 12-10-2008, 08:25 PM.

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  • Technocrat
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    Thanks Killer,

    Move the upper body into the turn as if to kiss the mirror.
    This I really need to practice

    btw how can I firmly grip tank with legs coz I need to release my leg to be able to lean into the corner??

    Also what do you mean by balls of feet, heel or toe??

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  • Killer
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    @Technocrat - As far as posture is concerned, atleast you're leaning with the bike and not pushing it away from you which is good. Yours is a good starter body posture, just focus on moving your weight around on the seat first bit by bit and get comfortable with that, dont hang the butt off more than half a cheek. Move the upper body into the turn as if to kiss the mirror. Grab the tank with your knees and keep the pressure off the bars when you lean your body forward, use your stomach and back muscles to carry the weight of your torso. Use a relaxed but firm grip on the bars and last but not the least, pull your feet up and ride on the balls of your feet.

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  • Aryan
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    @rossiter: Now, we are talking..Neat cornering there on the 'One!

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  • Technocrat
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    Killer: Thanks for the tips

    I just hope they open a track near Pune, am too lazy to get my bum down south

    Btw I had posted my pics Here

    Tips Please

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  • Aparajith
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    Originally posted by rossiter View Post
    Thanks Joel, Kedar and Killer. Yeah I got myself some full leathers since then. Can't wait to hit the track now.
    Make sure u give us guys a call!! And BTW whats it going to be this time around? Less than 2:05, I suppose

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  • rossiter
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    Thanks Joel, Kedar and Killer. Yeah I got myself some full leathers since then. Can't wait to hit the track now.

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  • Killer
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    Originally posted by rossiter View Post
    Hey which corner was this?
    Thats the sweeping left that leads back onto the short loop...C9 to be precise

    Last edited by Killer; 12-10-2008, 07:05 PM.

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  • Killer
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    ^ hehe sorry if i wasnt clear man, i was refering to the r15 rider in Techno's post before you posted your response You're looking good man, just get some protection, look forward to riding with you at the track.
    Last edited by Killer; 12-10-2008, 07:06 PM.

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  • rossiter
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    Originally posted by Killer View Post
    @Technocrat:- Yeah the R15 guy looks like a beginner from the above pic, hes trying too hard to get the knee down and hanging off more than necessary (exagerated position as i mentioned earlier). The torso is still crossed over the bike which isnt what you want either.

    The whole idea of getting the knee down is to guage lean angle, you dont want to keep scraping all the way along the corner as you go. The knee is down for a short period leading up to the apex, just feeling the surface and then its quickly brought in once past the apex. The biggest reason to bring in the knee asap on the indian bikes is to reduce aerodynamic drag, otherwise the actual knee scraping doesnt slow down the rider, in fact once the rider can guage his lean by feeling the surface with his knee it gives him even more confidence to open the throttle more and go faster. At an advanced level the knee can be used to bounce the bike back up in the event of loosing the front, but then thats something you should reserve for the track.
    Killer man, that's me on my R1

    Hey which corner was this?

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  • Killer
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    @Technocrat:- Yeah the R15 guy looks like a beginner from the above pic, hes trying too hard to get the knee down and hanging off more than necessary (exagerated position as i mentioned earlier). The torso is still crossed over the bike which isnt what you want either.

    The whole idea of getting the knee down is to guage lean angle, you dont want to keep scraping all the way along the corner as you go. The knee is down for a short period leading up to the apex, just feeling the surface and then its quickly brought in once past the apex. The biggest reason to bring in the knee asap on the indian bikes is to reduce aerodynamic drag, otherwise the actual knee scraping doesnt slow down the rider, in fact once the rider can guage his lean by feeling the surface with his knee it gives him even more confidence to open the throttle more and go faster. At an advanced level the knee can be used to bounce the bike back up in the event of loosing the front, but then thats something you should reserve for the track.
    Last edited by Killer; 12-10-2008, 06:53 PM.

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  • Joel
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    Where are your knee sliders man? Thats some neat cornering there.

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  • Technocrat
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    Nice ones Rossiter

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  • rossiter
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    Time for these to go in here. Of course, am a long way off from Killer and co, but I'm getting there





    Thanks to Kiran for the pics

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  • Technocrat
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    Yes I can see the pics now. Thanks for posting the Pics Aryan

    @Killer: Awesome pics. Hmm thats something interesting but wouldnt one stop speeding if he is already scraping the knee.

    Here is pic of the rider(taken by Captain Nandu Chitnis). Its not too clear but the technique doesnt look to right to me.

    Ofcourse I could be wrong.

    click on thumbnail



    I too am connfused about Inner feet postion, Some times The shoe touches earlier than anything else.

    As of now I can shift weight but cant hang off much, need to learn that
    Last edited by Technocrat; 12-10-2008, 07:15 PM.

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