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  • Old Fox
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    Originally posted by Joel View Post
    @Aryan - This is how I do. As soon as the corner approaches, shift the body weight to the direction of the turn. Like Killer said somewhere use the ball of the feet to shift mass on the pegs.
    Look ahead into the corner, tap the front brake gently to grip the front and also get a safe entry speed you are comfortable with and then shift weight. Hug the corner with your knee indicating your safe lean angle. Through the corner gun the throttle for a faster exit speed.
    Infact throttling through the corner will make the bike stay more planted and hold the line. learnt all this with my own set of trials and errors. I could be right or wrong.
    Spot on Joel. The 'remain-on-the-throttle' part is vital. A turn takes energy. A little of the physics here: Force = mass x acceleration. And Acceleration=rate of change of Velocity with time. Velocity is a certain speed in a certain 'direction'. Change either the speed or the direction and you induce acceleration and consequently a force.

    In the case of a turn, the changing direction shows up as a force(centripetal force). Nothing comes from nothing. So the force uses up the energy (momentum) of the bike. So a steady throttle input is necessary to 'maintain' speed through the corner.

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  • Aparajith
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    Originally posted by Joel View Post
    If u bringing the RTR FI, please dont forget to change the tyres. Else you can see it wash out everywhere
    Yeah, I know. U had suggested that on the other thread. It might be OT here, will take it through PM and phone calls from here-on.

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  • Joel
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    If u bringing the RTR FI, please dont forget to change the tyres. Else you can see it wash out everywhere

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  • Aparajith
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    Joel, add me to the list too!! Would like to learn a lot. If u say ur a novice, then what should we call ourselves? If its after Jan-15th u can have a round on an RTR-Fi too!

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  • DriftKingNT
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    Great Leaning Joel.

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  • Joel
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    Another thing that I forgot to mention is that, that day during the practise, it was pretty windy. Speeds on all the straight sections were 3-4kmph lesser than normal. Hence robs some lap-time too.

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  • Praful
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    Originally posted by Joel View Post
    Laptimes will improve further during the races, coz u'll be pushing it harder. This was during a casual Trackday.
    You're right, I 'feel' that I am going faster when I am following someone.

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  • Joel
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    Laptimes will improve further during the races, coz u'll be pushing it harder. This was during a casual Trackday.

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  • Praful
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    Originally posted by Joel View Post
    ^So many questions. I'm no expert da.
    Yes its C12. I mean, I see 95kmph odd mid-corner on the speedo. Its a few kms +/- depending on my corner entry speed.
    yes I have ridden the RTR a few times. But not as much as the R15.
    I was just beginning on the RTR, so speeds were not very great. BUt it used to be higher than 80+. Most of the times, especially during one of the races that i won (JK tyre junior championship) the bike had no speedo. But I'm better now and faster on the R15, I know. Mainly coz my riding has got better.
    Given a chance to ride an RTR, I'd love coz I know where the RTR was peppier. I mean in a few sections. Also that super clutch responds to every input.
    Lap time in the full track on my R15 is at 2:20s now. Its no where close to the fast guys man. I need more track-time to improve.
    My RTR has retired from track riding so no more fun on it
    OT: Next time you're doing a practice trackday I'm tagging along.I can learn a LOT from guys like you. I have a long way to go with moving around the track...

    Currently doing approx. 2.35 on the 220 and 2.27 on the RTR!!!

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  • Joel
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    ^So many questions. I'm no expert da.
    Yes its C12. I mean, I see 95kmph odd mid-corner on the speedo. Its a few kms +/- depending on my corner entry speed.
    yes I have ridden the RTR a few times. But not as much as the R15.
    I was just beginning on the RTR, so speeds were not very great. BUt it used to be higher than 80+. Most of the times, especially during one of the races that i won (JK tyre junior championship) the bike had no speedo. But I'm better now and faster on the R15, I know. Mainly coz my riding has got better.
    Given a chance to ride an RTR, I'd love coz I know where the RTR was peppier. I mean in a few sections. Also that super clutch responds to every input.
    Lap time in the full track on my R15 is at 2:20s now. Its no where close to the fast guys man. I need more track-time to improve.
    My RTR has retired from track riding so no more fun on it

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  • Praful
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    Originally posted by Joel View Post
    around 95+ on speedo. Flat out in 4th gear is all that I remember.. Soon after that turn, is the main straight.
    C12 is it?

    95 on the speedo is terrific man...

    Have you ridden the RTR at MMSC? If yes, do you remember what speeds could you take this corner on the RTR?

    What are your laptimes now?

    Too many questions....

    PS: I manage a paltry 75 on that corner on the 220, about the same on a RTR too.

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  • Joel
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    Originally posted by BANDHAV View Post
    But Aryan this just strengthn the fact that how capable and the same time forgiving the R15 is, even when the rider seems to do it all wrong he has managed to achieve quite a lean angle, what say?
    Its not really coz the bike is forgiving. Since he has shifted the mass already to the side, it will still work for him. His upper body is a little off.

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  • Aryan
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    @Joel: Thanks a lot for that insight! Only gunning the throttle part I need to take care of in my technique.. Please keep sharing such information, it really helps guys like me who are learning, trust me.

    @Bandhav: I have zero experience on the R15; just rode it a couple of times. That is it! Yes, although he did manage to get a 'lean angle' but ultimately that isn't going to help him anyways. Barely managing to take a corner with your body (and bike) all over the place is hooliganism..

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  • BANDHAV
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    Originally posted by Aryan View Post
    Thanks!

    I noticed the guy behind you (in the first pic) is doing it all wrong! It is pretty evident! Your technique is terrific, would love to learn it all from you.
    But Aryan this just strengthn the fact that how capable and the same time forgiving the R15 is, even when the rider seems to do it all wrong he has managed to achieve quite a lean angle, what say?

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  • Joel
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    Originally posted by nav75 View Post
    @Joel: Lovely pics there. In the first pic, who is the guy behind you, the helmet looks familiar to that of a RTR rider
    Hey thanks man. The guy behind me is a chennai Novice racer called Ajay. Later during the session, he over-cooked the bike at C1 and slid. The bike was almost completely totalled with no more plastics remaining.

    @Aryan - This is how I do. As soon as the corner approaches, shift the body weight to the direction of the turn. Like Killer said somewhere use the ball of the feet to shift mass on the pegs.
    Look ahead into the corner, tap the front brake gently to grip the front and also get a safe entry speed you are comfortable with and then shift weight. Hug the corner with your knee indicating your safe lean angle. Through the corner gun the throttle for a faster exit speed.
    Infact throttling through the corner will make the bike stay more planted and hold the line. learnt all this with my own set of trials and errors. I could be right or wrong.

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