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  • #76
    as i read some where in internet that coil rewinding is not reliable.. is that true??
    and what's the matter with self start after coil rewinding??
    explain it me please..
    i am little weak on this stuffs....

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    • #77
      Originally posted by sajjt View Post
      Firstly pls use bit more legible style of posting so that everyone can understand what you have actually meant. Of course we are so pampered with the SMS language, but here we can type atleast the first few letters with the KB. The last para is too irritating at least for me. Hope u take it in the right spirit

      You can upgrade with a higher capacity RR, but there should be enough thrust from the coil, else there's no point in plonking the RR alone.

      Ruby guys are correct, without rewinding and swapping with a good RR the charging rates wont improve and obviously the battery will drain fast while your headlight is on. For cranking the battery should be in good health, this state can't be achieved with the above mentioned tweak.
      Thanks a lot for the info!! And I will make sure not to use sms language here from now on








      Last edited by Kirankj1724; 08-15-2011, 11:30 AM.

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      • #78
        sir,
        Can u help me with the details of the rewinding of the coil,
        Number of turns in each pole, used gauge, voltage output at 1.5krpm, winding fashion (1st pole clockwise or anti clockwise??) ..
        thanks in advance ..

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Kirankj1724 View Post
          Thanks a lot for the info!! And I will make sure not to use sms language here from now on
          Not necessary, it has to be bit more legible to others, thats all I meant. I like ur observation talents
          Originally posted by Kirankj1724 View Post
          And whats this stands for?

          Good to know the APE RR prices've come down. Previously it was above 1.1K thats why I was bit skeptical about the genuineness.
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          • #80
            Originally posted by sajjt View Post
            Good to know the APE RR prices've come down. Previously it was above 1.1K thats why I was bit skeptical about the genuineness.
            Even though the MRP shows Rs.937 the actual price is Rs.1312. If you ask whyy?? they show the price list in their computer and tells that the prices are centralized and they can't do anything. They will even give you bill.
            Atleast this is the situation in A.P

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            • #81
              Originally posted by sandeepcf View Post
              Even though the MRP shows Rs.937 the actual price is Rs.1312. If you ask whyy?? they show the price list in their computer and tells that the prices are centralized and they can't do anything. They will even give you bill.
              Atleast this is the situation in A.P
              I dont know about the practice in A.P, but here, I had a similar incident when I purchased the switch gear for my bike, the price was printed on the box was 352 or so, but when I got the bill it was more than this, upon asking they also told me the same policy, but when I said I am not ready to pay the excess amount as its a old stock. First they were not willing but after some exchanges they were settled for the printed amount. And this was happened at one of the BAL SVC.

              U can always raise ur voice where ever relevant at times. They have no right to sell anything beyond the printed price which is all inclusive of all taxes.
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              • #82
                Originally posted by sajjt View Post
                Not necessary, it has to be bit more legible to others, thats all I meant. I like ur observation talents


                And whats this stands for?


                Good to know the APE RR prices've come down. Previously it was above 1.1K thats why I was bit skeptical about the genuineness.
                sorry but i didn't get u..

                Originally posted by sajjt View Post

                U can always raise ur voice where ever relevant at times. They have no right to sell anything beyond the printed price which is all inclusive of all taxes.
                i agree to this completely
                but i had a completely different experience when i had been to buy the Ape RR
                the person at the SC had an Apache too.. and with the same battery drain issue with his HID He started inquiring about the whole DC-conversion..
                and i was very happy to explain him the solution
                Last edited by Kirankj1724; 08-26-2011, 12:01 AM.

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                • #83
                  sab kuch bohot badia tarike se explain kiya hai magar 1 imp. thing that u missed was were that 8 pole coil holder is placed!!

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                  • #84
                    noob needs help !! apache has 6 wires coming from coil . i took a pic . the blue one is from the sprocket area so it might be some neutral wire . what about rest ??
                    1 and 2 go separately and rest 4 to a different connector .
                    plz see the pic and tell me which wire number is for what ?

                    also im thinking of just removing stock rr and putting ape rr to support the stock 35watt on dc . is it possible without problems like short circuit or something as light coil will be totally unused . i know output will be poor but i think it will be better than stock as ape is efficient rr unit

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                    • #85
                      white & brown wire is for rpm sensor, blue wire is for neutral sensor,
                      yellow wire is for lights, white with red stripe is for charging ,.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Jeanie View Post
                        noob needs help !! apache has 6 wires coming from coil . i took a pic . the blue one is from the sprocket area so it might be some neutral wire . what about rest ??
                        1 and 2 go separately and rest 4 to a different connector .
                        plz see the pic and tell me which wire number is for what ?

                        also im thinking of just removing stock rr and putting ape rr to support the stock 35watt on dc . is it possible without problems like short circuit or something as light coil will be totally unused . i know output will be poor but i think it will be better than stock as ape is efficient rr unit

                        With just swapping the rr you won't gain significant charging. I would suggest if you are spending 1000+ on RR, just add another 500 and go for coil rewinding and make full use of D.C conversion
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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by harishmenace View Post
                          With just swapping the rr you won't gain significant charging. I would suggest if you are spending 1000+ on RR, just add another 500 and go for coil rewinding and make full use of D.C conversion
                          +1

                          Just swapping the RR will not give u desired results, at the same time you can charge the battery from the light coil and feed the bulbs from the batttery is a good idea. But u need to unground the lighting coil and take out the coils directly to the APE RR to get the results. Rewinding will make sure better usage of ur power generator as the other battery charging coil is going to be idle when u do this.
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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by sajjt View Post
                            +1

                            Just swapping the RR will not give u desired results, at the same time you can charge the battery from the light coil and feed the bulbs from the batttery is a good idea. But u need to unground the lighting coil and take out the coils directly to the APE RR to get the results. Rewinding will make sure better usage of ur power generator as the other battery charging coil is going to be idle when u do this.
                            sir can u explain this in a little more detail to me .didnt understand it fully .
                            i would have rewinded coil but i couldnt find someone who does it .

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                            • #89
                              Engine kill problem

                              Hello guys, converted my rtr 180 to dc using rewinded coil and ape rr. now running 55/65 bulb. however now the engine kill switch does not work when headlight is in hi beam mode. in low beam or other conditions engine kill switch works perfectly. problem is only is hi beam. can any one help?
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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by New guy View Post
                                Hello guys, converted my rtr 180 to dc using rewinded coil and ape rr. now running 55/65 bulb. however now the engine kill switch does not work when headlight is in hi beam mode. in low beam or other conditions engine kill switch works perfectly. problem is only is hi beam. can any one help?
                                wow... this is happening to me too these days...
                                and yeah, big time hiccups too...
                                Planning on replacing TCI unit and seeing if it fixes everything... hmm

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