Re: Pulsar AS 200 Excessive Coolant and Engine Oil usage. Have I been sold a lemon?

Topup the oil as [MENTION=13161]tanay[/MENTION] mentioned and check whether oil reduces

Re: Pulsar AS 200 Excessive Coolant and Engine Oil usage. Have I been sold a lemon?



An engine consuming a huge amount of oil is usually considered one of the first tell tale signs of an impending rebuild.

And I assume thats also to blame for the coolant consumption, because the friction is so high that an excessive amount of coolant is being used just to cool it down.

Re: Pulsar AS 200 Excessive Coolant and Engine Oil usage. Have I been sold a lemon?

Coolant seems to be ok but for engine oil you can drain it and measure it. Make sure coolant is always filled at mid level not max level.

Re: Pulsar AS 200 Excessive Coolant and Engine Oil usage. Have I been sold a lemon?

I second it.. Drain the engine oil and check how much oil is drained.. This is the only way to figure out close to exact amount of Oil.

BTW, did the SVC guys top up the engine oil in your presence? why didn't you get the oil drained to see how much was left? besides, it is always recommended to drain oil in first 300 - 500 kms..
[MENTION=32286]psr[/MENTION] sir, [MENTION=28527]sibun[/MENTION], any inputs from your side

Re: Pulsar AS 200 Excessive Coolant and Engine Oil usage. Have I been sold a lemon?

So, coolant level was *correct* when taken home for the first time.

Barring radiator leaks and engine oil contamination, yes you have checked them all.

From the pics you posted yesterday, coolant level seems normal. Does the fan go off randomly and frequently? Does your bike run hotter than usual?
Is your ride any more harsh than it was on day 1? Do the gears appear sticky and not willing to engage? Any amount of smoke?

Drain the engine oil once and see if it appears foamy. Refill fresh oil and monitor.

800 km are frankly too less for an engine to even open up.

Re: Pulsar AS 200 Excessive Coolant and Engine Oil usage. Have I been sold a lemon?



After shutting down the engine and waiting for 5 minutes. Engine off.[/QUOTE]

I think the SVC guys didn't top up the oil.
If the oil consumption is that bad(as going by the pics) then you should be getting smoke from the exhaust.
The coolant eating up can't be verified too unless you drain the oil to find out the entire "MAAJRA".
Drain the oil it may be a single analysis for both issues.
If the oil is mixed with coolant and you find chocolate shake after draining then it's definitely a "mausambi".
Top up the oil or better put new oil and keep it under monitoring for some days if it's still going low then again it's a "mausambi".
If none of these happen then find the SVC and give them a nice piece of your mind .

CHEERS

Re: Pulsar AS 200 Excessive Coolant and Engine Oil usage. Have I been sold a lemon?

So I just went to ASC. Its a 6km ride from my home.

The head mechanic then proceeded to check the engine oil level while holding the bike straight with his hand, and kneeling. On a hot engine. Barely 30 seconds after I had shut it down. I try to reason with him that I took the pics yesterday, and show him the pics. He is in absolute denial of this even remotely being possible. He says my bike was not straight enough. He tells me to buy coolant from outside and keep topping it. So Bajaj assumes their customers to be mechanics. I tell him that to do that, you need to open the rear seat, then unbolt the screws on the front seat, then remove 2 more screws to remove the tank. He shows me an opening in the front, under the headlight, which is marked coolant. But the problem is that its perpendicular to the ground(not that I tell him, though). I'm just standing there thinking, like, "wow, such stupidity, much amaze, so incompetent, wow" >insert doge.jpg here<







I then return, being disappointed after the gross incompetence of another Bajaj ASC >insert son_i_am_disappoint.jpg<, after my harrowing experience with them in another city, when i had a CT100. (good old days, those.) Looks like its going to be outside mechanics for me all the way from now on. Familiar territory, that.

Nevertheless, after this 12 km long sojourn I do decide to take my own reading after this vehement denial.



not_bad_meme.jpg






After the cooling down. challenge_accepted.jpg








So what do I take out of this visit.
a) Bajaj mechs are grossly incompetent.
b) The engine oil, though what looks like adequete, is seemingly muddy.
c) That in order to keep this thing running properly, it is essential that I learn a few DIYs. Here is a guy, who thought DIYs. Meh. Why not pay a guy whose job it is to do it properly. And here I am, not considering buying Motul 5100 and watching DIY engine oil change videos on youtube. Looks like this Bajaj will make a mechanic out of this seemingly spoilt brat. But that cant be a bd thing, right? After all every experience teaches you something.
d) insert oh_god_why.jpg
e) C'est la vie

Re: Pulsar AS 200 Excessive Coolant and Engine Oil usage. Have I been sold a lemon?

Things you have learnt:

Oil quantity is sufficient. There is still a chance that coolant is mixing with the oil. If i remember correctly, this was a not so uncommon problem with the NS/ AS.

Are you by any chance an army kid!

Re: Pulsar AS 200 Excessive Coolant and Engine Oil usage. Have I been sold a lemon?


Nope. University professors, both my parents. In a subject as dreary as history, no less.

Re: Pulsar AS 200 Excessive Coolant and Engine Oil usage. Have I been sold a lemon?

That was my second guess, if not army, then IIT/ University! If you had read through the history of the AS/ NS (Ownership Thread), you wouldn't be asking these questions right now, you would have already solved the problems

So go learn some history!

Re: Pulsar AS 200 Excessive Coolant and Engine Oil usage. Have I been sold a lemon?



Unlikely. Coolant mixing with engine requires O-ring seals replacement. and that actually warrants the ASC accepting that the coolant is mixing with the engine oil.

*SIGH*

Re: Pulsar AS 200 Excessive Coolant and Engine Oil usage. Have I been sold a lemon?

Going by the oil color. Yes, coolant is definitely mixing with the oil.
Wtf, how dare the mechanic tell you to keep topping up the coolant, like its a chota recharge top-up?!! Dont go for outside mechanics, Just log a complain to Bajaj here : http://agni.bajajauto.co.in:7081/Web...omerRequest.do mentioning the same thing. Or write an email to them [email protected] (or do both) .. The service center guys will then be taking a written acknowledgement form you that you are satisfied with the bike and service, and everything has been done properly.

Re: Pulsar AS 200 Excessive Coolant and Engine Oil usage. Have I been sold a lemon?

I had planned a 1000 km 2 day trip from Amritsar to Srinagar via the Mughal Road.

Now I'm too apprehensive to do it. Largely due to the oil-coolant bonhomie.

Re: Pulsar AS 200 Excessive Coolant and Engine Oil usage. Have I been sold a lemon?

From the Pictures you had posted, the oil level is acceptable, but the oil being muddy is not. Change the engine oil with help from ASC and pay for it, and RECORD it in the job sheet...Did the coolant kept going low after your last observation ? Vehicle engines that operate at a slightly higher temperatures will have their coolant level at mid level mark and must be monitored every 1,000 Kms for level top up...using slightly lesser coolant percentage , will help, since Water is the best coolant, and the additive helps in moving parts lube and prevents early scaling. If there is a coolant mixing up with engine oil, then oil color as well as level will change.. I do not think at this time it is happening with the engine....Check the Spark plug and post pictures or your observation of the same..if possible...since your vehicle is in Warranty do not go to unauthorized mechanics and ruin your chances with Company backup...
Good Luck

Re: Pulsar AS 200 Excessive Coolant and Engine Oil usage. Have I been sold a lemon?

Sorry to divert the attention a little bit - are you guys referring to the circlip like thing as the "ring" (oil inspection window).

Edit - got it! Isn't that just a circlip to hold the glass assembly in the crankcase cover? Because the oil high and low markings are on the clutch cover itself.