Re: KTM 200 Duke

Have a 2013 d200. Have clocked 40k kms . Following are the issues
1) Oil leaking from the engine casing. The gasket has been changed 4 times in that many months. SVC guys have given up
2) Strange tick tick sound coming from the engine when fired up . SVC says its normal but havent heard this kinda sound in any other bike that was in svc.

Has anyone used timsun ts822 tyres on the duke ? How as been the overall experience ?

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Guys can anyone any help in getting a used Speedo unit for D200? I'm trying OLX/Quikr but there are hardly any in Mumbai. Else will have to go for a new one...

Re: KTM 200 Duke

share a pic of the location of the oil leak. it can usually be fixed with a new gasket+sealant.
again, share a clear video with audio of the sound so we can better understand and suggest. or visit another svc and get their opinion.

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Did you try the chor market or used market of Mumbai. Rumor has it that, if you know the parts, you can almost assemble an entire bike from these places. I'd strongly recommend you to give it a chance at these places. Also, make sure it works, because again, you have high chances of getting fleeced.

Tick tick noise can be attributed to faulty cam chain tensioner, faulty shim clearances and your shim needs replacement if you haven't replaced your shims in all these 40k kms. Now, to your oil leak, can you let us know where exactly in the engine casing. Is it in the center, or left or right side casing gasket that you have a leak or the valve cover that you're having?

Cheers!
VJ

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Attached the image of the leak . Looks dirty thanks to the rains last evening. Will try and upload the video for the sound from the engine by EOD.

Re: KTM 200 Duke

It's totally mucky in there. But, from what I can speculate, it seems there is leak from the magneto coil wire outlet. Do post the some pictures of the left and right side of the engine, at least that can give us an idea to start with.

Cheers!
VJ

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Hi, guys so finally visited the svc to get the bike looked at. Bike also started showing low oil pressure few day before visiting the svc. Now the first thing that i got checked was oil level and it was really low considering that the last service was done only 3k kms ago.
So they topped up the engine oil and said that engine is obviously in not good condition that's why it has started using too much oil all of a sudden and would need work.

Now they mentioned that the engine would need to opened and then they would be able to confirm what parts would need replacement and how much it would cost.

If there's anyone who got this type of engine work done on thier duke's then please share information with me for what things i should keep in mind.
Also would the engine would be reliable any longer?
I am not comfortable with getting engine work done, but I am also not able to sell the bike in this condition.
Experts please share your opinion, your help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Unable to upload the video here . You can watch it in this link https://youtu.be/sh33sa2k5LE . I washed the bike today so can't see the oil stains . Had clicked an image of the left side of the casing .

Re: KTM 200 Duke

From the video, I don't hear any problem with the sound of the engine. At least, from what I can hear, everything seem to be working as it is. Your oil leak, though can be tricky. But, if you've replaced the gasket and still the oil leaks, try to put some sealant on the stator wire exit on the left casing. Dukes are prone to leak oil from this spot. Secondly, make sure your engine casing bolts are tight enough. If you have a loose bolt or a stripped bolt thread, that is not torqued in well, it will leak oil.

Check and let us know.

Cheers!
VJ

Re: KTM 200 Duke

not an expert but here's my opinion
Keep an eye on the engine oil level and let us know if it still is consuming oil. Check oil on a flat surface holding bike upright without any stand, idle the engine for a couple of minutes.. shut it off, wait a minute and then check. It must be checked the same way after a refill and while checking it later.
many ppl check it on paddock or side stand.. which is not the right way.. and might end up overfilling causing issues.

is the performance ok after refilling oil ? Do you notice any smoke ? especially on revving it to say 6k rpm ?

there could be a couple of reasons for oil consumption.. commonly being bad valve oil seals or worn out piston rings/block liner.
the 200's parts are much cheaper than the 390's.. the block+piston is around 50% or so cheaper than a 390's.. costs around 4k iirc. and a set of new valves cost around 1500rs iirc.
some have gotten away by a simple change of piston rings.. but very few svc will even bother to check or replace just the rings.
but again only on inspection will someone be able to tell for sure what needs to be done.. and most of the svc would try to replace everything (or at-least bill you for it) to milk you out of your money.. so you have be careful. by everything i mean right from the cam shafts, timing chain/guide, crank, conrod, bearings..


maybe goto a diff svc next time, and get a complete general service done (all filter, oil, check airbox for oil residue, and in general for leaks around engine and underneath belly pan area) including throttle body cleaning and run a fi cleaner like abro or system g for a couple of tank fulls.
then see how the performance is and oil consumption.

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Thanks for the suggestions.
Actually the performance of the bike has been degrading everyday that I am using it. So finally tomorrow I will be leaving the bike at svc, they will open up the engine and let me know what parts are damaged and need replacement. I have been visiting this particular svc from a long time now and they have helped me in the past to get the bike fixed for least amount of money possible. But still I would only give a go ahead to them after an estimate.
At the moment by bike has done about 68k kms, there's no smoke if I rev the bike to 6k but the low end performance of the bike has taken a big hit.
It does not matter how much throttle I give, the bike would take its own sweet time to reach speed above 25-30 kmph after that speeds its manageble but nothing compared to a healthy duke 200.
I will update what svc say after a check-up.

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i suspect clutch, fuel pump pressure .. have them check the fuel pump pressure

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Yes, you're right. I got the fuel pump checked and it was showing 1.5 bar. Normal healthy fuel pump has a pressure between 2.5 to 2.9 so its time for the fuel pump to be changed.
They also checked the oil level and it was still good, so they have suggested to keep using the bike normally and keeping eye on oil level. If the level drops drastically then they will open up the engine.
The fuel pump was not in stock, it will be available in 2-3 day's so will get it changed then.
Meanwhile I am hoping I would feel a big change in performance after the fuel pump change considering the stock has done around 68k.

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Guys please help me.
Where can i find the 14 pin connecter used to connect plug n play hazard light adopter. I tried very hard but could'nt find it below seat. My duke is 3 months old and i'm starting to think they might have stopped providing it in recent duke 200. Please some one provide a pic as to where it is located. Thanks.

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Here's the pic of what's below my seat