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  • Re: KTM 200 Duke

    Originally posted by Zapps View Post
    Which one and how much did it cost?
    I think roughly 1000 for oil and filter, it was 15w50. Got it done at the RiderMania event.

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    • Re: KTM 200 Duke

      Originally posted by Akshayramdas View Post
      How much d200(4th service)paid service costs??
      Labor charges for a regular paid service is approx 900 (incl taxes).
      Rest goes for spares such as:
      1. motul 7100 1.4 L: approx 1300 (cheaper if you buy it yourself outside the svc)
      2. oil filter: 75rs
      3. fuel filter 100rs.
      4. air filter 250rs
      spark plug is usually good for at-least 12k km.. so not really required to change it every service.. maybe every other service depending on km run.

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      • Re: KTM 200 Duke

        Originally posted by s1d View Post
        Labor charges for a regular paid service is approx 900 (incl taxes).
        Rest goes for spares such as:
        1. motul 7100 1.4 L: approx 1300 (cheaper if you buy it yourself outside the svc)
        2. oil filter: 75rs
        3. fuel filter 100rs.
        4. air filter 250rs
        spark plug is usually good for at-least 12k km.. so not really required to change it every service.. maybe every other service depending on km run.
        Labor charges for Duke is more than Ninja 300 [emoji55]
        Was this done from the authorised service centre?

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        • Re: KTM 200 Duke

          Originally posted by s1d View Post
          Labor charges for a regular paid service is approx 900 (incl taxes).
          Rest goes for spares such as:
          1. motul 7100 1.4 L: approx 1300 (cheaper if you buy it yourself outside the svc)
          2. oil filter: 75rs
          3. fuel filter 100rs.
          4. air filter 250rs
          spark plug is usually good for at-least 12k km.. so not really required to change it every service.. maybe every other service depending on km run.
          They told me it will be between 3k and 4k..
          I think its overcharged..

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          • Re: KTM 200 Duke

            Originally posted by Purnakalik View Post
            Labor charges for Duke is more than Ninja 300 [emoji55]
            Was this done from the authorised service centre?
            yes, the prices i quoted is from a ktm authorized service center.

            when was the last time you got a ninja 300 serviced at an authorized service center and they charged you less than 900rs?

            Originally posted by Akshayramdas View Post
            They told me it will be between 3k and 4k..
            I think its overcharged..
            the quotation they give you will be on the higher side usually.. but actual expense will be a bit lower.
            always make it a point to ask them for a break up initially, so you have an idea of what spares will be replaced and the cost break up.

            but remember some service centers charge a bomb for chain clean/lube.. sometimes as much as Rs.500, i haven't included this cost. I've never actually paid for chain clean/lube at my svc (that's a different story altogether). They also charge around Rs.100 as 'consumables'
            so yeh, the prices i've quoted are recent prices for labor and spares. Oil price depends on if you are buying at svc at mrp or outside.. small correction, the oil at svc will cost you around Rs.1150 for 1.4L
            So, expect to spend close to 3k.

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            • Re: KTM 200 Duke

              I am thinking to buy ktm duke 200.
              But the issue is the bike don't have good headlight. Please suggest any method to increase the power of headlight. As i have to ride daily 1hr at night.
              Last edited by SyBtRoN; 01-14-2019, 12:45 AM.

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              • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                Originally posted by SyBtRoN View Post
                But the issue is the bike don't have good headlight. Please suggest any method to increase the power of headlight.

                You can change the stock headlight 55/60 bulb to Philips Xtreme Vision 55/60 and for parking lights with Philips Ultinon W5W 6700 or Osram 2780CW/2880CW W5W, all of these should improve the lighting by 20-30%

                If you are still not satisfied, start looking at a decent quality AUX lights.
                Last edited by kiran2508; 01-14-2019, 01:17 AM.
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                • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                  Originally posted by SyBtRoN View Post
                  I am thinking to buy ktm duke 200.
                  But the issue is the bike don't have good headlight. Please suggest any method to increase the power of headlight. As i have to ride daily 1hr at night.
                  Get LED headlight bulb or you can get yourself Philips Xtremevision 60/55 halogen and get a two LED lamps fixed, this helps with good visibility. Do note, the way the LED lamps are positioned and the watts of the LEDs mean the difference between a good throw and usable beam pattern. Always stick to 5k lumens as they are white with tinges of yellow.

                  Cheers!
                  VJ
                  Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                  The girl said, 'NO!'


                  And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                  THE END

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                  • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                    Twice now by bike has stopped at almost near idling RPM and then it refuses to start by self.

                    First time it happened couple of weeks ago on the highway, I was going over rumbler strips with clutch lever engaged and then when I tried to accelerate the engine stopped and refused to start. No alarm shown. It then started by a push start and after that the self was working fine.

                    And second instance was today, and it happened to be in a mechanics hand at the time. He checked the spark plug and it was fine. This time too it had to be push started and now the self works. He suggested that carbon may have formed on the valve or the piston.

                    The throttle body was cleaned (by disassembling) 4000kms back.

                    Can SystemG help with this?

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                    • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                      Originally posted by philip.gunner View Post
                      Twice now by bike has stopped at almost near idling RPM and then it refuses to start by self.

                      First time it happened couple of weeks ago on the highway, I was going over rumbler strips with clutch lever engaged and then when I tried to accelerate the engine stopped and refused to start. No alarm shown. It then started by a push start and after that the self was working fine.

                      And second instance was today, and it happened to be in a mechanics hand at the time. He checked the spark plug and it was fine. This time too it had to be push started and now the self works. He suggested that carbon may have formed on the valve or the piston.

                      The throttle body was cleaned (by disassembling) 4000kms back.

                      Can SystemG help with this?
                      Check the spark plug cap for proper tightness of the cap to the HT lead. Secondly, how old is your battery? A faulty battery too can cause idle stalling with electronics playing gremlins. How old is your bike and how much has it clocked?

                      Cheers!
                      VJ
                      Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                      The girl said, 'NO!'


                      And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                      THE END

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                      • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                        Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
                        Check the spark plug cap for proper tightness of the cap to the HT lead. Secondly, how old is your battery? A faulty battery too can cause idle stalling with electronics playing gremlins. How old is your bike and how much has it clocked?

                        Cheers!
                        VJ
                        Mechanic checked the spark plug. The cap seems tight to me. And if the cap was loose, will the bike start by push start?

                        Battery was replaced 7k kms or 7months back. The horn sound appears fine so I guess battery is good.

                        Bike is 2.5yrs and 39k kms.

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                        • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                          Originally posted by philip.gunner View Post
                          No alarm shown. ...
                          ....
                          ....
                          and it happened to be in a mechanics hand at the time
                          Was the mechanic from KTM SVC? Was the bike connected ECU diagnosis tool after the engine stalled in front of him to see any error codes generated?
                          KTM has a weird system, sometimes even when there is no warning light or check engine light there will some error codes generated in the tool, ECU will have record any past error codes that generated, even if it occurred briefly in the past and might not be present at that time. These fault codes needs to cleared with tool only.

                          This should give you an idea where to start looking into the issue.

                          First start with the battery, then look at the clutch position switch attached to the clutch lever, then onto the self starter motor itself(39K kms on stock motor? That's about time overhaul it), stock carbon brushes/armature might be dying, they tend to work on-off randomly while they are in dying state.
                          Last edited by kiran2508; 01-19-2019, 12:28 AM.
                          Bajaj SuperFE 150 - Forever in my heart
                          Bajaj Discover 135 DTSi Sports - 2009 to Current
                          KTM RC390 - 2015 to Curr​ent
                          TVS Jupiter - 2016 to Current

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                          • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                            Originally posted by kiran2508 View Post
                            Was the mechanic from KTM SVC? Was the bike connected ECU diagnosis tool after the engine stalled in front of him to see any error codes generated?
                            KTM has a weird system, sometimes even when there is no warning light or check engine light there will some error codes generated in the tool, ECU will have record any past error codes that generated, even if it occurred briefly in the past and might not be present at that time. These fault codes needs to cleared with tool only.

                            This should give you an idea where to start looking into the issue.

                            First start with the battery, then look at the clutch position switch attached to the clutch lever, then onto the self starter motor itself(39K kms on stock motor? That's about time overhaul it), stock carbon brushes/armature might be dying, they tend to work on-off randomly while they are in dying state.
                            It was not at the KTM ASC.

                            If the issue comes again then will check at the ASC with diag tool. Thank you!

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                            • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                              Originally posted by philip.gunner View Post
                              Twice now by bike has stopped at almost near idling RPM and then it refuses to start by self.

                              First time it happened couple of weeks ago on the highway, I was going over rumbler strips with clutch lever engaged and then when I tried to accelerate the engine stopped and refused to start. No alarm shown. It then started by a push start and after that the self was working fine.

                              And second instance was today, and it happened to be in a mechanics hand at the time. He checked the spark plug and it was fine. This time too it had to be push started and now the self works. He suggested that carbon may have formed on the valve or the piston.

                              The throttle body was cleaned (by disassembling) 4000kms back.

                              Can SystemG help with this?
                              more details are needed from you..
                              what do you mean by refuse to start ? does the bike crank up but not start ? do u just hear a click when you thumb the starter? u dont hear anything when you thumb the starter ?

                              not all 'issues' will be reported by the ecu/diag tools.. but is a good place to start diagnosis, if the common troubleshooting steps don't help.

                              i doubt it could be due to carbon on valve or piston.. it is normal to have deposits on the valve and piston.

                              so yeh,
                              when you thumb the starter and the engine cranks up but doesn't start.. then you need to check if there is a spark at the spark plug.
                              also clean the ignition coil contacts.
                              if you hear a click (or maybe not hear it), then it could very well be a weak battery or worn carbon brushes in the starter motor... if indeed there is no clicking, it could be a faulty starter relay.
                              another possibility is a bad idle control stepper motor.. but this i presume will throw up an error on the diag or have erratic idle.. bike shutting down, am not sure.

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                              • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                                Hello guys..i had put up a post somewhere in the
                                previous pages asking for the things i should do
                                before using my '11 months sitting idle' duke..thank
                                you guys to those all who responded..i did all that
                                was recommended by you guys.

                                But things are getting rough. There was fork oil
                                leakage from the left shock. I got the oil seal
                                replaced and been riding for like 600-700km..and it
                                has started leaking again. Another major problem
                                this 'ticking' or 'metal sliding' like sound from left
                                side of engine after i do some spirited riding for
                                some 30-40 kms..when the bike is started up it
                                sound normal but after running for some 30-40 kms,
                                these sounds appear mostly around 3000-5000 rpm.
                                I am really confysed what might be the problem..got
                                to see a lot of threads regarding camshaft chain
                                tensioner etc..and i dont know much about these
                                parts in details.

                                The next problem...is that now when i shift gears,
                                its feels like a lot of friction is happening like metal
                                grinding when you shift the gear lever. Sometimes,
                                gear refuses to engage when goin from three to two
                                unless you leave the clutch,agin pull in the clutch
                                and downshift once more..would it be a problem
                                with the engine oil not being flushed properly? I
                                seriously doubt the svc guys used an engine flush or
                                not when they put in new engine oil on my recent
                                service after the 11 months idle sitting..
                                Another issue with the bike is, while running it shuts off by itself when the clutch is pulled in or when i release the accelerator and the bike wont start after that. This happened twice now. On pressing the starter i can hear the cranking bt engine just wont start. Once i pressed on the spark plug cap and after a few tries the bike started up reluctantly, sputtering and had to wring the accelerator to get the engine to start up properly..
                                Please shed some light on these issues guys..

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