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  • Originally posted by sivigshankar View Post
    They flash the ECU.. .meaning kind of re-install it
    Yes they leave the diagnostic tool connected to the bike for about 15-20 mins, so i guess they re-install the firmware.

    as someone mentioned, the initial "jhatka" is not felt as much and i have not checked the top end though. I never had stalling issue earlier so cannot comment on that. Rest all is as it was.
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    • Re: KTM 200 Duke

      Anyone know where I could source Pirelli Supercorsa tyres for the Duke in Mumbai and approx how much would they cost? Thanks in advance.

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      • Originally posted by Janesh.J View Post
        Yes they leave the diagnostic tool connected to the bike for about 15-20 mins, so i guess they re-install the firmware.

        as someone mentioned, the initial "jhatka" is not felt as much and i have not checked the top end though. I never had stalling issue earlier so cannot comment on that. Rest all is as it was.
        hi , i did my 1st service, they didnt connect the ECU or Anything,
        he just removed the RPM limit, using the SET+Mode button,
        is that normal ?

        Secondly,
        what type of fuel do you ppl use for your bike,
        will normal petrol suffice or do we need to use speed/power ?

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        • Originally posted by abdulsheikh007 View Post
          hi , i did my 1st service, they didnt connect the ECU or Anything,
          he just removed the RPM limit, using the SET+Mode button,
          is that normal ?

          Secondly,
          what type of fuel do you ppl use for your bike,
          will normal petrol suffice or do we need to use speed/power ?
          Actually there really isn't a rev limiter on your bike to be honest. You could've revved it till 10,500RPM in all gears even in the running in. All the SVC did was set the RPM at which the Red Shift Light located in the top center of the console will light up intimating you to shift. The first RPM value set RPM1 will flash the shift indicator light when reached and the RPM2 value will illuminate Red constantly once it's RPM value is touched or crossed.

          I personally am using HP's power petrol @Rs.84.95 when I recently filled up the tank on Sunday last week, as always from a CoCO HP petrol pump.

          Hope this was helpful to you!!!
          Speed, it seems to me, provides the one genuinely modern pleasure.

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          • ECU map limited at 10,000 RPM in 5th and 6th gears!

            Originally posted by Darth Sid View Post
            Indeed, the remap is something to be sad about. My bike's engine used to stall without warning. Once it would stall, it would not start willingly. When the engine would crank, it would barely idle at 500 RPM and then die again. To start it successfully I would open the throttle as soon as the engine came to life. Later, I got used to it as I could feel the engine dying when I closed the throttle and the revs went below 2000. To keep it from stalling, I'd rev it up.

            Then came the flash and remap. A KTM service manager brought his DNF tool which has the software to flash the ECU, one the service centre guys do not have. After the procedure, the cold idle RPM has remain unchanged at 1500 RPM but the hot idle speed has gone up by 100 RPM from the previous 1000-1100 RPM to 1100-1200 RPM. No stalling whatsoever and idling is more steady now. Low and mid range have improved slightly but this improvement is of no use to me as I always downshift when revs fall below 5000 RPM and alway upshift at 10,000 RPM.

            The top speed has now been reduced by lowering the rev limit at 10,000 RPM in 5th and 6th gears. No, I'm not mistaken. After the flash, my bike hits the rev limit hard at 117 km/h (down from 120-121 km/h) in 5th gear and at 132 km/h in 6th (down from 137 km/h). I've verified by steadily raising the revs in 5th and 6th and even by accelerating hard. I can still touch 133-134 sometimes by crouching and making the engine speed shoot past 10,000 RPM. However, it also bounces back as hard to 131 km/h. Also, revs don't touch 10,500 RPM even when oscillating at the rev limit in the top two gears. The rev limit is still at 10,500 RPM in the first four gears.

            Bottom line - DO NOT GET YOUR ECU FLASHED BY KTM IF YOU WANT TO RETAIN YOUR TOP END!
            Wow, I just logged in to xbhp after a month and half because I'm going for a first service to Bangalore tomorrow, and was too busy with life to follow xbhp. :-(
            And I read this post...

            I got my Duke on 9th August, and the main issue I wanted to correct at the first service is that the rev limiter cuts off at 10,000 rpm in 5th and 6th gears! But another issue is that the bike is quite jerky in lower rpms, common problem with the old ECU map.

            This is really strange because it means that KTM has been experimenting with ECU maps for some time already. Since my Duke came from factory with rpm limit at 10,000 in 5th and 6th gears, it means this limit had been done almost 2 months ago, but it also means that the issue with jerkiness in lower rpms has been rectified only recently.

            I'm happy to hear that jerking in lower rpms is fixed, but, damn, I am NOT happy AT ALL to have the top speed moved to 133 kmh!!
            IMO this is a big negative decision for KTM, you can't just like that reduce the top speed of people's bikes, top speed is an important thing for many people. Especially when you feel that the bike can rev and pull so much more than what they limited it to!

            I'll talk to the guys tomorrow in SC tomorrow and see if anything can be done about it, or at least if they can give KTM a feedback.

            And hopefully I'll finally post some really cool photos from a photoshoot I've done recently with a photographer friend of mine... :-)


            On the other hand, has anyone done a ECU remap by a third party company?
            I talked a month and a half ago to Mr. Abhishekh from Kiirus from Mumbai about their ECU remap. It costs 10,000r Rs, they ship the ECU back the same day, and the rev limiter is moved to 11,700 rpm, with more power and torque, and they also claim smoother low rpms than the stock (which is now rectified in KTM's new ECU map as well). I thought to go for it after the first service...
            Does anyone have any experience with them or heard about a Duke that has this ECU remap?

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            • Originally posted by splus View Post
              Wow, I just logged in to xbhp after a month and half because I'm going for a first service to Bangalore tomorrow, and was too busy with life to follow xbhp. :-(
              And I read this post...

              I got my Duke on 9th August, and the main issue I wanted to correct at the first service is that the rev limiter cuts off at 10,000 rpm in 5th and 6th gears! But another issue is that the bike is quite jerky in lower rpms, common problem with the old ECU map.

              This is really strange because it means that KTM has been experimenting with ECU maps for some time already. Since my Duke came from factory with rpm limit at 10,000 in 5th and 6th gears, it means this limit had been done almost 2 months ago, but it also means that the issue with jerkiness in lower rpms has been rectified only recently.

              I'm happy to hear that jerking in lower rpms is fixed, but, damn, I am NOT happy AT ALL to have the top speed moved to 133 kmh!!
              IMO this is a big negative decision for KTM, you can't just like that reduce the top speed of people's bikes, top speed is an important thing for many people. Especially when you feel that the bike can rev and pull so much more than what they limited it to!

              I'll talk to the guys tomorrow in SC tomorrow and see if anything can be done about it, or at least if they can give KTM a feedback.

              And hopefully I'll finally post some really cool photos from a photoshoot I've done recently with a photographer friend of mine... :-)


              On the other hand, has anyone done a ECU remap by a third party company?
              I talked a month and a half ago to Mr. Abhishekh from Kiirus from Mumbai about their ECU remap. It costs 10,000r Rs, they ship the ECU back the same day, and the rev limiter is moved to 11,700 rpm, with more power and torque, and they also claim smoother low rpms than the stock (which is now rectified in KTM's new ECU map as well). I thought to go for it after the first service...
              Does anyone have any experience with them or heard about a Duke that has this ECU remap?
              Race Dynamics is coming up with Programmable ECU for Duke.
              Put up a post a few pages back. If the stock ECU is wrongly flashed you will have a brick in your hand and will void the warranty if they find out at svc.

              Cheers.
              A quote by a toilet, " use me well, keep me clean, i would never tell anybody whatever i have seen.." :P

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              • Anybody knows how milage and average speed is calculated in duke's console? Yesterday i got milage of 72 km/l
                All is Well

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                • Would like to know which saddle bag would a perfect fit for Duke. I remember seeing similar post earlier on this thread, tried searching it but couldn't find.

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                  • Originally posted by shv18 View Post
                    Race Dynamics is coming up with Programmable ECU for Duke.
                    Put up a post a few pages back. If the stock ECU is wrongly flashed you will have a brick in your hand and will void the warranty if they find out at svc.

                    Cheers.
                    Thanks for info! I checked their FB page and they say they are launching ECU for Duke in 2 weeks. It doesn't say anything about power and changes, or cost either, but I guess I'll wait and see when they launch it.

                    If not too expensive it should be a single best upgrade for Duke, esp because I find the stock ECU map not very good at all. I guess it should be better with the new ECU map in low RPMs, and I don't know if anything changed in mid and upper revs, but I find the current ECU map not delivering as much power as it could from the engine, which is really punchy!
                    Not to mention that 10,000 rpm on Duke feels almost like 7,000 rpm on other bikes that have redline at 9,000 - it's very obvious the engine can easily rev up to 12,000 rpm without being too strained...

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                    • Originally posted by Ri$hi View Post
                      Would like to know which saddle bag would a perfect fit for Duke. I remember seeing similar post earlier on this thread, tried searching it but couldn't find.
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                      They have a bag kit for the Duke 200

                      Got one myself and happy with the quality and it fits perfectly, now just waiting to be done with the 1st service before I hit the highway

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                      • Originally posted by joshzma225 View Post
                        I personally am using HP's power petrol @Rs.84.95 when I recently filled up the tank on Sunday last week, as always from a CoCO HP petrol pump.Hope this was helpful to you!!!
                        I use Speed 79Rs/l here...What are the advantages of CoCo pump?? And how can i identify one?? Would be available at all places?Also as per ECU thing...when i got my bike serviced they connected the same Bajaj's ecu diagnostic tool used for pulsar. They kept it connected for few minutes. I also doubt the ECU tool used by Bajaj's potency. They should be provided with KTMs diagnostic tool. Personally i dont like taking Duke to bajajs center.KTM showroom guys here claimed that they will have their own sercice guys at their place in few time. I dont know how much true is that.
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                        • Duke Headlight Mod - Suggestions and Advices

                          Hi bikers,

                          I'm planning to make modification to my Duke. Inspired from the Duke 690 head light I've designed and attached the picture. I've inquired the modification shop AutoXculpt ( one of the best in South India ), he said it is possible for him to do it. One HID projector for Low bean and one for the High beam, also planning to fit new Horn system from Skoda ( Duke owners would know why) :P



                          I travel minimum of 20 km per day to office and around. My question is, can the battery of duke 12V 8 AH withstand the power drain from these two projectors (both turned on at a time) and the horn? I'm very well aware that these modification would result in Battery guarantee void. It is a risk that I'm willing to take if it doesn't mess up my battery

                          Any suggestions or advices are welcome..
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                          • Originally posted by adheep View Post
                            also planning to fit new Horn system from Skoda ( Duke owners would know why) :P
                            I am the only owner who is not getting the exact reason.Can you please help me wid dat ?

                            Problem is I have both Duke 200 and Skoda Laura TDI, but I do not know how can the Skoda unit help Duke with its horn.

                            All I know, Duke 200 has a single horn which sounds peevish and at is at its best when battery is substantially charged.
                            So do the Skoda too have a single horn relay ?
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                            • Originally posted by MACH50 View Post
                              I am the only owner who is not getting the exact reason.Can you please help me wid dat ?

                              Problem is I have both Duke 200 and Skoda Laura TDI, but I do not know how can the Skoda unit help Duke with its horn.

                              All I know, Duke 200 has a single horn which sounds peevish and at is at its best when battery is substantially charged.
                              So do the Skoda too have a single horn relay ?
                              I think he means he is going in for those aftermarket horns (windtone etc..) that are locally called 'skoda' horns for the similar sound they reproduce - its got nothing to do with the 'horn system from skoda'.... or am i wrong ??

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                              • First oil change (500 km) and can feel the difference, smooth like butter!

                                Got the Bajaj defaut Dtsi 10K (which I presume is semi synthetic oil) and intend to switch to the Motul 7100 20W50 at first servicing.

                                With the first oil change the engine feel like new and hoping it gets better when I switch to Motul

                                Will follow the cycle that Doga recommended, oil changes at first service 1000, 2500, 5000 and so on

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