They are different web links , if you look at the other bikes hp/torque arent there.. Dont think they are hiding,otherwise you wont see the second link. "http://www.ktm.com/in/naked-bike/200-duke-eu/technical-details.html" without torque,hp figures "http://www.ktm.com/in/naked-bike/200duke/200duketech.html" with torque,hp figures


They are different web links , if you look at the other bikes hp/torque arent there..

"http://www.ktm.com/in/naked-bike/200-duke-eu/technical-details.html" without torque,hp figures

"http://www.ktm.com/in/naked-bike/200duke/200duketech.html" with torque,hp figures

and if you see there are some differences like fourpiston/two piston calipers and ground clearance figures ,

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Yamaha R6 is one of them that I can think of.

R6 had a deliberate tacho error of 1000+ rpm to redline hence they shifted back to original when it became a controvercy!

hello friends any one got rear shoker rusty spring replacement ?
and also how much km after change MRF tyers

Not completely true. There is techco error in every bike, just as there is speedo error. In this case it was compounded by certain other factors. During design stage it was initially designed to have a 17,000 rpm redline. During testing the ECU was showing bike consistently hitting past the redline. However, problems like uncontrolled valve spring resonance and accelerated degrading of valve seats were discovered at very very late stage of testing. By the time it was discovered the bikes were already on the assembly line. Officially it has never been fully explained why such a gross error took place. Unofficially, it was said they had been too ambitious and when the problem was discovered instead of halting and correcting the issue they went ahead with production. Essentially, it was dialing back of original design aim of achieving 17,000 rpm redline due to design and material limitations.

Another recent example of such a problem is the 2012 ZX10, which had similar uncontrolled resonance issues with its valve springs. Its sales was halted and a recall was announced to fix the problem.

Got the dirt sack saddle bag and tank bag and I am ready to tour.

for some reason i am unable to view pg 529 of this thread when logged in(all i get is a blank page, but works fine when i browse as a guest).. Well, this is in reply to vidy's post:


I am confused at what you are trying to convey... what i said was from within the India website you get directed to different links that you and me have mentioned. That is why i was confused when i first dint see the specs. (then RG pointed it out). if you read again what i posted, it shows diff specs for hp/kW wrt to power on those 2 links (one says 18.xx n the other 19) so again...
anyway that's how the site has been set up & we(atleast I) hope that it gets fixed soon with just one set of specs(hopefully the correct ones) wrt the indian version of the bike & the so called 'web links/linking' are corrected.


"If the world was perfect, it wouldn't be"
It all comes down to how well (some of)these 'errors' work together along with the rider to create a 'riding experience'
OT.

ktm is looking into the rear suspension 'paint chipping' issue (from what i have read here), so you can talk to the service center. they would definitely replace it (but again ask them when will the 'improved' shocks be available instead of changing now and then changing again if you have these issues)
regarding the mrf tyres > are you asking how long the tires will last ? (well i think the rear should last at least 10k for most people or even more... and the front atleast 15k or more.. this is for sane riding with no burnouts n 'poser' stuff

I want to change the stock MRF tyres to off road or those dual purpose ones. Are those available on such fat section tyres[150/60 & 110/70].??...As per touring i would really want to change them.

[QUOTE=s1d;879042]for some reason i am unable to view pg 529 of this thread when logged in(all i get is a blank page, but works fine when i browse as a guest).. /QUOTE]

I had the same problem. Logging out and back in seems to have fixed things.

same here brother..

I'm pretty sure there are "dual-sport" tires available in the appropriate sizes. Whether you can get them in India or not is another story. Also, given the low profile of the Duke rear, you'll almost certainly need to fit tires that are 90% or 80% road use, as the more off-road-oriented tires tend to have taller profiles that won't fit inside the rear swingarm/fender.

today i went to kirti Nagar service station for rear shocker replacement. I also complained about lot of vibration while driving. i explained them that the bike become smooth after lubricating the chain but this smoothness remains for 2 days only then it came back to same. the service person told me that the chain and sprocket set is wore out and it need replacement. I questioned them that the bike has done only 8500km and the chain set need replacement. they told me that it is fast bike and this is normal. other bikes in India covers more than 40000km before it need chain set replacement. i am not saying that the chain set should cover 40000km but it can at least go for 20000km. and even if the chain set wore out it must not put vibration in bike. the service person confirms me that ktm duke has highest chain loosening tendency and this results out in fast chain set wearing.
I am fed up with this product. every alternate weekend i am going to service station. duke is becoming white elephant for me. i am thinking of replacing the chain system with belt drive system. can any body suggest me where i can find belt drive system in Delhi and what will be its approximate cost ???

thnx s1d for info. but i was talk to service center guys and he will not ready to replace they said " you use bike this time and after more rusting we will repaint the suspension spring" so what i do ? they replace or repaint ?.

You won't be able to fit a belt drive to the Duke (or any bike, really), as it would require a new swimgarm spaced to fit the belt "sprockets", as well as probably a new rear wheel. In any case, based on my observations, the stock chain KTM/Bajaj has fitted to this bike is pretty low quality, as it seems to stretch ridiculously easily. I can understand the stock chain wearing out in 5000 miles/8500km, especially since riding conditions here are pretty dirty. You can probably extend the life of the chain by regularly and frequently cleaning and lubing it, but even that can only go so far. A lot of the reasons other bikes here can go so long are 1) much less torque-y engines, 2) enclosed chains, 3) very light throttle hands (most don't ride their non-Duke bikes the way the Duke gets ridden), and 4) being hidden away where the wear is invisible until it practically falls apart (be honest, how many of you who owned bikes with full chain shrouds opened that up every couple of weeks to clean, lube and adjust the chain?). Before you get bent out of shape, buy a good aftermarket chain like one from RK or DID, keep it adjusted, clean, and lubricated and see if you don't get more mileage out of it.

Now, the part that makes me question the situation is that you say the sprockets are worn too, and that you were experiencing vibration. Most of the time, a sprocket set will last for two or maybe 3 chains, depending on what the sprockets are made from. However, if the chain and sprockets aren't cleaned regularly and frequently, which means at least once a week, and more like every other day if it's raining/muddy, then both the chain and sprockets will wear out very prematurely. If the chain isn't cleaned and lubed, especially if it's not a high-quality aftermarket chain, it becomes very easy for one or more links to "freeze", which means one or both of the pivot pins no longer moves, and the link doesn't flex properly. When that happens, every time that frozen link hits one of the sprockets, two things happen. First, you feel the impact, because the distance between the link pins of the two links on either side of the frozen pivot isn't the same as the rest of the chain, so the chain "snaps" down onto the teeth of the sprocket. Second, that snapping action wears out the teeth of the sprocket, since they are constantly having to deal with differences in the distance between chain links.

So, with an open-chain bike like the Duke, keeping the main component of the drivetrain cleaned becomes critical. This goes doubly so when it becomes apparent that the factory fitted a cheap chain to the bike as a cost-cutting measure, as evidenced by the reports of chain stretching/slapping on bikes that are either new or meticulously cared-for.

If it makes you feel any better, the Hayabusa *eats* chains. Unless the owner shells out for a high-end chain/sprocket set, which will probably run around Rs.30,000, he'll be replacing both of them every year. Even a high-end set only lasts a couple of years, even with a light throttle hand (and if you think the temptation to grab a big handful of throttle is hard to resist on the Duke, it's 10x worse for a big bike; and there's a reason the VMAX is shaft-drive). So if nothing else, you're in good company.

I have logged out and logged in 'n' number of times, and also tried on different computers and still facing this issue (pg529 goes blank when logged in and shows up when logged out). I have raised this issue with the mods and they are looking into it. And other pages before and after pg529 are showing up perfectly.

take some pictures and email them to ktm: [email protected] and explain to them your interaction with the service center. (and of course paint chipping isn't going to affect the suspensions' functionality, but again this shouldn't be happening so early and are you sure its rust and not just the paint chipping off and exposing the bare metal?
Can you post some pics here ?
i get so angry at these svc's who mostly tell you 'it wil b fine after 1st service, it will be fine after 200km, it is like this only on this bike, happens on all bikes , we will see if it happens again etc etc..' - nothing but laziness. It doesnt matter if its a 'premium' bike or a 'regular' bike ( i think it shouldnt matter if u buy a tvs50 or a r1 because you paying for it and they are supposed to be serviced & supported by the manufacturer. i am sure the manufacturers arent giving of the so called 'regular' bikes for free!!. And to a doodhwala his tvs50 is his r1 !!) I know this is OT but still wanted to put this across!! the quality/service & customer orientation at indian ASC's is pathetic (90% of the time, unless you 'befriend' or know someone on the inside)