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  • Here is something new what I think every KTM owner should know.

    Couple of days back I was facing a problem of prolonged acceleration even after leaving the throttle. So I visited Ghatkopar SVC.

    The guys over there told me that it is an accelerator cable issue and it has to be replaced. So I asked if this will be covered under warranty?

    The guy asked me call Mayank Bhatt who told me that this issues is caused because the accelerator cable must have lost its "Smoothness" due to dust particles and it is not covered under warranty.

    Now, I had a long conversation with him after which he was ready to replace it under warranty.

    But then, a mechanic from the SVC adjusted something he called "Play" or something and the accelerator was all fine.

    My point is, if the company people knew this thing, why didn't the come up with a solution for this?

    So, I finally managed to find a solution for clutch cable. If possible, get a rubbed covering on the open part of the clutch cable near the engine. You can take reference from the one which is found on the right side of any Pulsar (Don't know about the NS).
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    • I am getting a constant noise from the engine similar to the sound of a flight engine or a train horn..

      It was not found before.. I find it annoying..

      Suggest me with what needs to be done and what could possibly be the reason for the noise

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      • Hi Guys,
        A small update,I have had the issue of MFD getting moisture right from day 1 ,got it replaced twice under warranty but the issue persisted .Day before yesterday I got it replaced with the Supposedly updated version (marked 4* on the MFD ) which shouldn’t have this issue and guess what within 30 mins I had the moisture issue all over again .Keep it in the shade and there’s no moisture ,keep the bike out under the sun and pour some water over the display and the moisture comes just like a pimple would on a teenagers face ,INSTANTLY J
        The best part is company has circulated a Notice saying this 4* version is the updated version for the moisture issue, sorry my bad that’s not the best part, the best part is there are a few dust particles in the display , I have mailed the customer mail people appraising the stringent, mind boggling QC process they have in place ,yet to hear from them.
        So my 2 cents don’t change the MFD with this so called updated version.

        Regards,
        Amit

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        • Orange day Bangalore!

          Hey guys who is in for the Orange Day in bangalore?
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          • Got a call from KTM Vashi. Orange day on Sunday at Wadala. 7 am to 1:30 PM. Guys who come wearing riding gears would be able to race? others(like me) can well...watch maybe

            Originally posted by joel_sherly View Post
            I am getting a constant noise from the engine similar to the sound of a flight engine or a train horn..

            It was not found before.. I find it annoying..

            Suggest me with what needs to be done and what could possibly be the reason for the noise
            Hey do you get this sound even after turning the engine off? It may be similar to what I am experiencing these days. It may be coming from tyres. Don't know. But can't rule out transmission noise(as they are still moving even after the engine is switched off. no?).
            It's similar to noise coming from an electric motor, like a generator.
            Last edited by The Monk; 02-18-2013, 04:59 PM. Reason: Back to back posts
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            • Originally posted by joel_sherly View Post
              I am getting a constant noise from the engine similar to the sound of a flight engine or a train horn..

              It was not found before.. I find it annoying..

              Suggest me with what needs to be done and what could possibly be the reason for the noise
              If you are talking about the noise that comes with the pumping of the engine ,which sounds somewhat like "Khass" , it is becase of the engine characteristic according to Service centre guy . My bike has the sound like this, but it usually appears a lot when the bike is almost overheated. I will update you soon once I get my second service done soon. Hopefully by this weekend .
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              • Originally posted by LoGun View Post
                If you are talking about the noise that comes with the pumping of the engine ,which sounds somewhat like "Khass" , it is becase of the engine characteristic according to Service centre guy . My bike has the sound like this, but it usually appears a lot when the bike is almost overheated. I will update you soon once I get my second service done soon. Hopefully by this weekend .

                I bet they would tell me the same if I enquired about the problem with the SVC..
                Hope there is a remedy for it...

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                • Originally posted by devil_rider View Post
                  Here is something new what I think every KTM owner should know.

                  So, I finally managed to find a solution for clutch cable. If possible, get a rubbed covering on the open part of the clutch cable near the engine. You can take reference from the one which is found on the right side of any Pulsar (Don't know about the NS).
                  Yes, NS does have that Rubber Flap.

                  Originally posted by joel_sherly View Post
                  I am getting a constant noise from the engine similar to the sound of a flight engine or a train horn..

                  It was not found before.. I find it annoying..

                  Suggest me with what needs to be done and what could possibly be the reason for the noise
                  I get similar kinda noise in my NS, But only at the time of engine braking.
                  It's like a Turbo whistle, or that flight engine type sond, and Honest I like it A hell lot.....
                  Last edited by The Monk; 02-18-2013, 05:00 PM. Reason: Back to back posts
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                  • Originally posted by joel_sherly View Post
                    I bet they would tell me the same if I enquired about the problem with the SVC..
                    Hope there is a remedy for it...
                    Dont stop questioning the SVC guys until you are fully convinced .
                    LoGun

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                    • Some common queries.Thanks to all those who participated in the India KTM Duke 200 Owners facebook Group

                      1.Can we get an optional extended warranty ?

                      Bajaj is working on it but can NOT confirm if it would be feasible.Even if a extended warranty is provided it is not going to be directly from KTM.A third party entity will be involved to manage the extended warranty.The explanation that was given to me was...''this is going to be like purchasing a refrigerator from TaTa Chroma shop , the refrigerator manufacturer will give you say 2 years warranty but if you pay a little extra for extended warranty, chroma will involve its own set of mechanics local or outsourced to fix a issue after the 2 year period ( the refrigerator manufacturer will be involved only during the initial 2 years from date of purchase). But like I mentioned earlier there is only a discussion going on but this not confirmed, if the deal has been fixed we be informed.

                      2.What about the Duke 300 and the new Ninja 250 or 300 ?

                      Duke 200 itself took 3 years of planning, talking and waiting to bring it to the Indian market.Bajaj will do everything they can to make the other variants of Ninja and Duke available, it might take longer , but ones Bajaj can settle down with all their paper work,importing formalities and decide upon the best price it would be made available.What I felt was,since Bajaj has not completed their homework they do not want to promise upon anything now and then make others disappointed.So we would just have to save up for now and hopefully by next year we would hear some good new.Until then open a RD account

                      3.Will a louder horn be available ?

                      Bajaj is researching on this but can not comment further.Bajaj has taken note of the names of the pepole who asked for a louder horn and they will be informed as soon as a newer louder horn is available.The change that would be made is a bigger diaphragm compared to the current one.Bajaj recommended not to make any changes to the electrical or use after market horn as the wiring itself is made of thin wires, a slight fluctuation would fry the wires and cause the entire system to malfunction.Its your bike you decide, dont complain if things go wrong.

                      4.Why is the monoshock rusting ?

                      The gap between the coil is very less and so when running over bad roads and pot holes the coils will come into contact and cause the paint to peel off.This is not observed on a Duke 125 as the suspension is a different from that on the Duke 200 and has a lightly more space between the coils.This would also explain why some people have a rusted suspension while other dont - those who dont have rusted coil might most likely be riding solo all the time and also ride on good roads while using the breaks gently.If you just need it replaced anyway you need to insist the service supervisor to change it but be aware that it will reoccur, until bajaj comes up with a better one.

                      5.Why the engine stalling?

                      This is caused because of some error within the ECU.Bajaj is not doing any magic here.The diagnostic tool is connected to the ECU of the bike to determine the error reported...it is then flashed or reset if required.This will be done only by a senior service mechanic.There is nothing as such as a '' patch'' involved.If the regular mechanic at the service center is not able to understand what you are saying check with the senior most person for using the diagnostic tool.Immediately after the flashing the bike it will stall repeatedly in a very short interval and will persist for 10 - 12 KM or so ...the KTM service guy will ride the 10 KM to confirm everything is working the way it should.

                      6.Can I use Motul 300 V ?

                      No comments, we recommend Bajaj or Motul 7100

                      7.Oil seepage from the engine ?

                      Caused by loose bolts on the engine case cover or a bad O ring.

                      8.De-coloration of the exhaust pipe ?

                      This is normal and will happen on all the Dukes.Initially the Duke was designed to have a slight yellow like finish on the exhaust pipe and so the decoration is very prominent , if it was in black would you even know ? The small specs will become completely brown over a period of time and this is not a manufacturing defect...The senior service engineer also mentioned that this happens on the Ninjas as well...

                      9.Moisture on the meter ?

                      This is caused because of the heat generated and air entering through minute gaps.If it reoccurs very often you check with the service center for replacement.But dont freak out if you see it for the first time and wait for some time to check.The best you can do to avoid it is to park your bike in a covered parking whenever possible.

                      10Chain noise?
                      This case be caused if the chain is not cleaned and lubbed every 500 KM or as and when required, chain tension is not correct,there is a bad chain link,the sliders are not in the right position,chain might be rubbing against the sliders.
                      Last edited by tecteam; 09-21-2012, 12:31 AM.

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                      • Originally posted by tecteam View Post
                        Some common queries...... .
                        Nice but as far as these problems are concerned they can be rectified easily just its that one needs to be sensible enough to own a nice bike and maintain it.Exhaust decoloration is witnessed in several high power bikes so its fine and not much of a heck of problem. So is rear suspension pain peeling off. The suspension works fine thats what matters. For the meanwhile KTM will look forward to the issue.Engine stalling is a characterstic of Duke even i witnessed couple of times but adapted myself to it.Engine oil is seepage us stupidity on a new bike one can DIY the loose bolts easily. As a duty of yours.Horn!! horn i mean one can go to the market install a new one rather than sitting in corner brag about it. Previewing a lil thing under a problem. And theres nothing KTM is resarching about the "diaphragm"...and yess every tom dick n harry knows theres a "diaphragm" in horn ....if there will be a louder horn there will be one. Pfft.!!motul 300v is great go ahead its fine. Done over 1000kms..Didnt faced any of those till now though...running at high rpms for prolonged time after break-in period will reveal other characterstics of bike.
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                        • Originally posted by Ankitvile View Post
                          Horn!! horn i mean one can go to the market install a new one rather than sitting in corner brag about it. Previewing a lil thing under a problem. And theres nothing KTM is resarching about the "diaphragm"...and yess every tom dick n harry knows theres a "diaphragm" in horn .....
                          Duke is Fuel Injected as everyone knows, so it has in ECU which controls engine related everything.
                          The last thing you want on something like that is to mess around with the electrical system.

                          Agreed fixing a horn is not rocket science, if you plonk in a relay all should be well.

                          However for a bigger powerful horn (read which draw more current) you can't use the stock connections, so might want to draw a direct line which will mean fiddling with the existing wiring.
                          Worst that can happen is to go to some incompetent fool and he cuts the wires and electrical warranty bye bye.

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                          • A small query: Has anybody used "engine ice" on their Duke? Any review on it's performance?

                            Secondly, regarding the horn, I must mention, I have checked the wiring of Duke, and it's perfectly fine to install atleast another Duke's horn. That's 2 of the stock horns.
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                            • I am facing e/e stalling during deceleration after high RPM's and idling instability problems in my duke.Recently i read a post in Team-Bhp where a guy faced the same issue and he had posted that his ECU was remapped by the KTM tool at the ASC in mumbai.I inquired about it in chennai and they informed that they had recently received a new tool from KTM and these issues can be sorted out by it.They did not disclose the function of this tool.

                              I think that the regular diagnostic tool just displays the error codes and does not rectify,whereas the recent tool those guys are talking about checks the signal from all the sensors at various throttle opening position and remaps the ECU for optimum operation of the engine.

                              They have asked me to come tomorrow and that it would take 30 mins for the process to complete.

                              I am taking my bike tomorrow and will post feedback once done.

                              Any valuable inputs from guys who are aware of this tool are welcome.
                              Last edited by Navaroj; 09-21-2012, 12:51 PM. Reason: spelling
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                              • Originally posted by yzfrj View Post
                                Duke is Fuel Injected as everyone knows, so it has in ECU which controls engine related everything.The last thing you want on something like that is to mess around with the electrical system.Agreed fixing a horn is not rocket science, if you plonk in a relay all should be well.However for a bigger powerful horn (read which draw more current) you can't use the stock connections, so might want to draw a direct line which will mean fiddling with the existing wiring.
                                Agreed bro.Yes ppl in need of bigger horn should definitely keep in mind the foolish roadside mechanics. A bigger horn might harness the stock wires. And yess ive also seen more bigger bikes of higher cc equipped with low intensity horns. Indian bikes launched before duke etc featured big horns...best example pulsar. This might be why one feels the horn low.(including me) But i think its fine enough and audible enough.
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