Re: My KTM Duke 200 (White) review-cum-experience

LOLWUT? Changing the oil filters should not and WILL NOT void the warrenty, they are just trying to scam you in service. Just buy a few filters from other dealers and change it yourself, I have the service manual for 200 Duke, it says to use 15W50 in 0 to 50 degree Celsius and in -10 to 40 degree Celsius 10W40. Since you are in J&K I guess the weather there is pretty cold, you may have to use use a good quality 10W40 oil. BTW most people only use mineral during the run in and then switch to fully synthetic.

Re: My KTM Duke 200 (White) review-cum-experience

You're right about the oil, my mistake.
Don't worry about changing oil, those guys in service center don't know what they're talking about.

I bought 2 oil filters and 3 cans of Motul fully mineral oil (good for 2 oil changes) and changed the oil at street mechanic shops, once at 150 km, second time at 500 km, and then at KTM for first service.

If you can't get the right oil then the stock Bajaj semi synthetic which they use in KTM service center is also ok because it's mostly mineral, just few percents synthetic.

Re: My KTM Duke 200 (White) review-cum-experience

Thanks for the info.

I don't know what good that would do for them, after all I am 300kms away and I cannot go there to get my oil changed... Looks like have to wait till the 1st service for them to send over the someone here.

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I think I can get hold of the Bajaj 10000 dtsi oil from the local Bajaj SC, however I have no idea where could I get the oil filters other than the ASC... who apparently are reluctant to send it over.

Re: My KTM Duke 200 (White) review-cum-experience

Had the worst ride today...clocked 800KM in running in period..I think the oil has to be changed now..the bike is not at all feeling like a 25BHP at all...Maybe the air filter also needs cleaning..
Should I switch to motul 7100 now in 1st servicing??

Re: My KTM Duke 200 (White) review-cum-experience

It would have been better if you changed the oil earlier. You can wait till 1000 km but you can also do the first service now, no need to wait.

Nope, I'd recommend to wait with fully synthetic oil till 2000 km. Do some redlining between 1000 and 2000 km with mineral oil, so the engine fully breaks in. If you haven't pushed the engine fully to the end with full load at least several times then it's most likely not yet fully broken/run in...

Re: My KTM Duke 200 (White) review-cum-experience

Wasn't the first service to be done @ 500kms? The oil has to be changed at 500kms to avoid small metal scrap getting accumulated in it. Also, the first 1000kms are critical for any bikes life in the long run. Switch to FS oil after 3k kms. Till then you can use mineral oil or semi synthetic oil (depends on your choice).

Cheerz!!

Re: My KTM Duke 200 (White) review-cum-experience

Was wondering if the oil filter on the Duke is the same as that in the Pulsar 200NS.

BTW, a feeble ( have to listen carefully) khatkhat noise is coming from the engine while idling but washes off as the engine is revved. Is it OK? bike has only done 20km(unfortunately I am waiting for my helmet to arrive... missing out on the fun). A weird smell comes from the bike - can be best described as the smell of something that gets very hot.

Also the RPM lights were set at 11,800 and 10,500rpm ( Isn't the bike limited to 10500rpm, how the hell was I supposed to hit 11800rpm???)... changed them to 5000 and 7500rpm. The instructions given in the manual for changing the RPM1 light do not seem to work for me, had to press the SET button for 10 seconds not the MODE as specified in the manual.

Re: My KTM Duke 200 (White) review-cum-experience

Doesn't the India manual recommend only 20W50. It's been a long time I opened the manual, but I have been using the Motul 7100 20W50 FS for some time now. THe new manual comes with new oil specs ?

Re: My KTM Duke 200 (White) review-cum-experience

Dukers, Need some suggestions.
Yesterday a Auto wala suddenly took a U turn, I stopped even after maintaining 60+ speed(Thanks to BYBRE). But a guy on his scooter couldn't able to stop and he hit my Bike's foot rest.I apologized him for Sudden braking, he also understood the reason and we both left. But immediately after placing my foot on the pedal, It was different, I observed carefully then there was a dent over the Holder Step RH (Right Foot Peg). Now my Question is,

• can the dent be removed without breaking it? The foot resting position is really different now.
• What can be the impact, am I suppose to change the entire set?
• What will be the cost?
  

Re: My KTM Duke 200 (White) review-cum-experience

The official service manual says 1st service at 1000Km so was waiting for it...but looks like i'll do it at 900Km this weekend..

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I have gone past 6000RPM on 5th and 6th gears...went max at 7.5K once on 6th gear..touched almost 90kmph...FE has dropped steadily till 40kmpl now..Should I switch to synthetic oil/semi synthetic...since I gave done some redlining...and taking in consideration that winter coming in a couple of months so might have to change the oil then anyways..
Please help me out will go for the 1st servicing this weekend..

Re: My KTM Duke 200 (White) review-cum-experience

The smell of evaporating water?


Do as you wish, it's your bike.
There's plenty of good posts telling you it's much better if you do it later, but if you don't want to listen then why ask?

Don't worry, whatever you do it won't damage the engine, you'll just end up with a bike that gives little less mileage and little less power if the engine isn't properly broken in. Not a big deal.

Engine can't be broken in with synthetic oil, only with mineral. Synthetic is too smooth for metal parts to fully align to each other, which can happen only when strongly pressed against each other, which can happen only when in high rpms. That's why engine needs to be ridden in high rpms under full load, and that's why mineral oil during run in.

Re: My KTM Duke 200 (White) review-cum-experience

Alrighty mineral it is..!!
will try and keep it in the top rev range as much as possible..
just to be clear...bajaj dts-i 10000 is mineral oil..??
Apologies for the amateurness:P
Technically its my 1st bike..so just help me out here..!!

Re: My KTM Duke 200 (White) review-cum-experience

No worries.
No need to keep the engine in top revs as much as possible, but just be sure to do it occasionally. Don't baby it, take it sometimes all the way to rev limiter, but then immediately slow down, best with engine breaking, not with brakes. Take 10 sec to go all the way up to 10k rpm, and then 10 sec to go all the way down. Of course, for safety reasons and high speeds, it's best to go to redline in lower gears.

It takes little longer for engine to fully break in, especially if it hasn't been ridden many times up to redline. But then you'll have better performance and mileage than other bikes which were babied during run in period and then filled with synthetic oil straight away at first service.

Re: My KTM Duke 200 (White) review-cum-experience

I don't know, I got the manual for 2013 200 Duke EU online and while reading it found out the grade of oil to be used. You can read the whole manual here http://www.ktm.com/uploads/tx_ktmpro...1963_en_OM.pdf IIRC page 162 lists the grade of engine oil to be used.


I can understand, like the smell of hot soldering iron without flux. Check coolant level IMMEDIATELY. Are the radiator fins clean?

Re: My KTM Duke 200 (White) review-cum-experience

Hi !

I would like to extend my gratitude towards XBHPians and this thread for such great initial reviews and the ownership experiences of the KTM Duke200.

I was constantly following the thread since the day I decided to buy the Duke200(June '13) and finally got it delivered on 16th of this month.

I still remember the first time I TD the Duke in Gurgaon(July '12), when I was working in Delhi.
It would be an understatement to admit that it was "Love at first sight"

My heart still skips a beat when I start my RX100 and is in sync with the exhaust note, I never thought I'll be able to feel the same way for another bike, but the Duke swept me off my feet with the first throttle.
I was over joyed by just revving a stand still bike in the showroom and couldn't wait to ride it.
Within minutes the bike was out in the sun, a pillion with a helmet sitting behind me telling me not to rev it quickly as it may get out of control.

I started the bike and slowly took it out of the compound and then it was all blur for the first 4 seconds(or I might say a single breath-out). I saw the speedo and it showed 67 !
Two hands clutching my waist and a helmet knock from behind as I eased the throttle.

It was decided then and there that this is "The Bike"
I was awestruck and my joy had no boundaries.

On my ride back home from Gurgaon to Noida on my beloved RX, I was smiling ear to ear and couldn't sleep that night.

It was all set ! But had a few difficulties at work which limited me to buy it in Delhi and had to move back to Pune.

In the meanwhile the Duke390 rolled out and I got a little eager and greedy(43ps), but the Duke200 had imprinted on me, and the love didn't fade away in a year, and the day came(after 2 sleepless nights upon being informed that it will be delivered on the 16th) when I rode my Duke200 from the showroom to my home in KP.

The bike read 5km on the odo when it was handed over with all the instructions(I already knew what was coming, thanx to you guys) so was prepared.

Its 360 kms on odo as of today !
And I still cant stop thinking about it even when I am not riding it...