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  • #8251
    Re: KTM 200 Duke

    Originally posted by Edd View Post
    First time I took a U Turn with this bike, engine stopped, tyres got locked and bike toppled to the side crashing my right hand side mirror.
    Embarrassing! Happened to me once, in college... luckily I stomped my feet down and avoided the fall ...phew!
    2012 KTM Duke 200 ...Pure Love on two wheels <3

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    • #8252
      Re: KTM 200 Duke

      Originally posted by Xzibit Roll View Post
      Do you mean knocking? My bike does that too when I use engine braking . like when I slow down to 20kmph in 3rd gear .I asked around and people said this is normal . Mine has crossed the 10k mark just recently.
      Which remap are you talking about?


      Sent from my GT-S7562 using xBhp Connect mobile app
      I guess you are talking about snatching, not knocking. Duke 200 can do 30 very smoothly in sixth gear provided the road is more or less level, so I am not sure if it should snatch at 20 in third gear. And the important thing is you should use the appropriate gear to avoid snatching, it's detrimental to the drive train.

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      • #8253
        Re: KTM 200 Duke

        It can do 15-16 in third gear . But if you purposely keep on riding high-gears in lowest of rpms then you are just damaging everything as lugging is considered the worst . Please do not run each gear in their minimum-limit range ever . Sometimes I have to yell at my friend to change gear : P when they try to pick up the bike from standstill in 3rd gear :-| . You can feel the piston going left-right instead of up-down and lots of vibrations . Keep the gears in their mid-power-band at least .
        READY TO RACE >>

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        • #8254
          Re: KTM 200 Duke

          Originally posted by dukist View Post
          It can do 15-16 in third gear . But if you purposely keep on riding high-gears in lowest of rpms then you are just damaging everything as lugging is considered the worst . Please do not run each gear in their minimum-limit range ever . Sometimes I have to yell at my friend to change gear : P when they try to pick up the bike from standstill in 3rd gear :-| . You can feel the piston going left-right instead of up-down and lots of vibrations . Keep the gears in their mid-power-band at least .
          Here's my Gear changing routine:
          1st - Barely ride the bike on 1st. Even my Pickups are from 2nd gear most of the times.
          2nd - 0 - 12Km/h
          3rd - 13 - 22 Km/h
          4th - 22 - 30 Km/h
          5th - 31 - 50 Km/h
          6th - 50km/h+

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          • #8255
            Re: KTM 200 Duke

            Originally posted by Edd View Post
            Here's my Gear changing routine:
            1st - Barely ride the bike on 1st. Even my Pickups are from 2nd gear most of the times.
            2nd - 0 - 12Km/h
            3rd - 13 - 22 Km/h
            4th - 22 - 30 Km/h
            5th - 31 - 50 Km/h
            6th - 50km/h+
            Yes 2nd gear pickup is fine ( but not 3rd : ) ) . Well, your gear changing routine is a bit on the early-side to me. If picking from 2nd then at least I might touch 20~25 and change to 3rd at around 25 ~ 35 ish atleast and so on. ( My personal opinion not saying it's wrong or right about your routine, so no offense ). Can you post the rpm band too for each gear for your routine.
            Last edited by dukist; 03-14-2014, 11:55 AM.
            READY TO RACE >>

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            • #8256
              Re: KTM 200 Duke

              Originally posted by dukist View Post
              Yes 2nd gear pickup is fine ( but not 3rd : ) ) . Well, your gear changing routine is a bit on the early-side to me. If picking from 2nd then at least I might touch 20~25 and change to 3rd at around 25 ~ 35 ish atleast and so on. ( My personal opinion not saying it's wrong or right about your routine, so no offense ). Can you post the rpm band too for each gear for your routine.
              Will check that today. My gear changing routine is on early side because the bike makes a lot of noise . Changing the gears fast suppresses the noise level.

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              • #8257
                Re: KTM 200 Duke

                @Edd By early side I meant you don't feel the bike to be underpowered or that 'lugging' feeling with your routine :P ? what do you mean by noise there ? I don't think in those speeds rpm will be much high making any kind of noise
                Last edited by dukist; 03-14-2014, 12:24 PM.
                READY TO RACE >>

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                • #8258
                  Re: KTM 200 Duke

                  Hi guys, my bike's insurance is going to expire in 20 days. Now i want opt for zero depreciation insurance policy, suggest me which bank offer it for two wheeler. Thanks


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                  • #8259
                    Re: KTM 200 Duke

                    Originally posted by leorcid View Post
                    I guess you are talking about snatching, not knocking. Duke 200 can do 30 very smoothly in sixth gear provided the road is more or less level, so I am not sure if it should snatch at 20 in third gear. And the important thing is you should use the appropriate gear to avoid snatching, it's detrimental to the drive train.
                    No no. I think he's indeed talking about knocking, when letting go of the throttle after downshifting from say 4th to 3rd(or 3rd to 2nd). A few knocks are indeed heard and I was initially apprehensive about the engine health.
                    When I raised this with the KTM engineer he told me it's nothing to be worried about and is a standard engine signature.

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                    Originally posted by dukist View Post
                    Yes 2nd gear pickup is fine ( but not 3rd : ) ) . Well, your gear changing routine is a bit on the early-side to me. If picking from 2nd then at least I might touch 20~25 and change to 3rd at around 25 ~ 35 ish atleast and so on. ( My personal opinion not saying it's wrong or right about your routine, so no offense ). Can you post the rpm band too for each gear for your routine.
                    Dukist, you are lugging the engine man. The 2nd should routinely be stretched till 30-35 at least.How old is your bike? The first two gears initially feel very harsh, but on regular ripping they settle down to relative smoothness.

                    4th should be good for 80-85 at least. In fact I used to employ the services of the 5th gear only after 95-100(the 4th redlines at 104-105 kmph) and 6th after 110-115.
                    Only these days I shift up a little early in each gear due to the harsh clutch plate(it needs replacemnt and I am waiting for the next service, to save up on the oil cost).

                    This shift pattern would kill your engine's mojo man
                    The hero always RIDES into the sunset!

                    My Touring Logs-
                    French Riviera
                    https://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/38345-biking-french-riviera.html
                    Scotland-
                    http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/3...-3600-kms.html
                    France -Normandy and Paris on the CBR
                    http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/3...adventure.html
                    KTM chronicles-
                    http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/2...hronicles.html

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                    • #8260
                      Re: KTM 200 Duke

                      I'm wondering of doing a little sprocketing on my D200. Stock size when I got the bike was 14T Front and 43T rear, Then KTM changed the size of the rear on post mid 2012 bikes to 42T.

                      Now I've came across a 45T rear set. Actually its the O/E set of the D125. And I'm not a top whack person, I enjoy acceleration a lot. What do you think, Should I go for the 45T set or get the 42T at replacement time? The 43T set is almost impossible to come by now as well. And anyone here who's running the Chain sprocket set of the D125 on their 200? Would love to hear a feedback and comparison.
                      To finish First, first you must Finish!

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                      • #8261
                        Re: KTM 200 Duke

                        Originally posted by jalex View Post
                        I'm wondering of doing a little sprocketing on my D200. Stock size when I got the bike was 14T Front and 43T rear, Then KTM changed the size of the rear on post mid 2012 bikes to 42T.

                        Now I've came across a 45T rear set. Actually its the O/E set of the D125. And I'm not a top whack person, I enjoy acceleration a lot. What do you think, Should I go for the 45T set or get the 42T at replacement time? The 43T set is almost impossible to come by now as well. And anyone here who's running the Chain sprocket set of the D125 on their 200? Would love to hear a feedback and comparison.
                        You'd require very frequent gear changes with that sprocket mate.
                        The hero always RIDES into the sunset!

                        My Touring Logs-
                        French Riviera
                        https://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/38345-biking-french-riviera.html
                        Scotland-
                        http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/3...-3600-kms.html
                        France -Normandy and Paris on the CBR
                        http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/3...adventure.html
                        KTM chronicles-
                        http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/2...hronicles.html

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                        • #8262
                          Re: KTM 200 Duke

                          Yes you are right and I do realize that. The top speed might also decrease to 124-126Kmph I presume and fuel efficiency might also drop by some 4Kmpl probably. But still the set is available for just 1500 Rupees and I want to give it a try. If there's a considerable gain in acceleration from 0-100Kmph or 0-80Kmph even, It would be fun. And nowadays I'm not using the Duke much for my commute. We have a Vespa VX too and one of my cousins might give me his RE C350 to take care of while he's going abroad for some time. So I think now's the perfect time to do this if I should at all.
                          To finish First, first you must Finish!

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                          • #8263
                            Re: KTM 200 Duke

                            Originally posted by Doga View Post
                            No no. I think he's indeed talking about knocking, when letting go of the throttle after downshifting from say 4th to 3rd(or 3rd to 2nd). A few knocks are indeed heard and I was initially apprehensive about the engine health.
                            When I raised this with the KTM engineer he told me it's nothing to be worried about and is a standard engine signature.

                            ----consecutive posts auto-merged-----



                            Dukist, you are lugging the engine man. The 2nd should routinely be stretched till 30-35 at least.How old is your bike? The first two gears initially feel very harsh, but on regular ripping they settle down to relative smoothness.

                            4th should be good for 80-85 at least. In fact I used to employ the services of the 5th gear only after 95-100(the 4th redlines at 104-105 kmph) and 6th after 110-115.
                            Only these days I shift up a little early in each gear due to the harsh clutch plate(it needs replacemnt and I am waiting for the next service, to save up on the oil cost).

                            This shift pattern would kill your engine's mojo man
                            That' what I wrote there mate : ) shift to 3rd gear on atleast 25~35 Kmph . I do change 2nd to 3rd at around 28 ~ 32 . Its only 1200 KM old : ) not much . Occassionally red-ding 2nd 3rd and 4th gears . Touched 86 on 3rd when rev-limiter kicked in ( first time for me ) and shot it back to 82 ish I guess, yes 4th touched 108 . I keep the gears-tight so most of times from office-home I rarely touch 6th gear : ( . What I have learnt till now is that bike is not happy at all in low revs or when baby-ed too much. Ride hard and it gets more smooth.
                            READY TO RACE >>

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                            • #8264
                              Re: KTM 200 Duke

                              Originally posted by Doga View Post
                              You'd require very frequent gear changes with that sprocket mate.
                              Or lesser gear shifting on each gear? By changing to 14/45 sprockets, the torque at rear wheel on each gear increases by about 7%. Higher torque at rear wheel means lesser downshifting in city ride.
                              But that change reduces the maximum possible speed of about 128 kmh to 120 kmh at 10,000 rpm.

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                              • #8265
                                Re: KTM 200 Duke

                                Originally posted by vikundefined View Post
                                Hi guys, my bike's insurance is going to expire in 20 days. Now i want opt for zero depreciation insurance policy, suggest me which bank offer it for two wheeler. Thanks


                                Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
                                My insurance is zero depreciation, even for fiber parts. It is from Bharti AXA, taken from the showroom when I bought the bike, for RS 3600.

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