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  • Re: KTM 200 Duke

    Originally posted by leorcid View Post
    My insurance is zero depreciation, even for fiber parts. It is from Bharti AXA, taken from the showroom when I bought the bike, for RS 3600.
    Thanks


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    • Re: Fule meter and others- questions on duke 200

      Originally posted by Doga View Post
      The fuel meter doesn't return accurate figures like the speedo(the speedo is one of the most accurate around).
      There is a bit of hesitation at the cusp (the point where it is decided that the fuel level has crossed a minimum level), mainly due to the fact that fuel splashes around and this is a digital system. Refill soon after it flashes low fuel warning to save the fuel pump and learn to live with this behaviour
      To calculate accurately you need to use tankful to tankful method: Fill the tank to the brim, set one of the trip meter to zero and ride. When you run out of fuel again do a tankful. The amount going in would be what the bike consumed over the distance recorded by the tripmeter. An accurate mileage figure can then be arrived at.
      This is usually 30-35 for healthy dukes on this forum. If you ride sedately then close to 40kmpl can be had.

      The mileage calculation on the MFD is kind of instantaneous and will keep on changing as per your ride conditions.

      The turn limiters on the TEE(the silver aluminium part which holds the forks beneath the headlamp) limit the turning radius of the bike. This can be bothersome in the beginning but you'll learn to live with it. Learn only throttle modulation to control your speeds without using your feet to aid, while you take short turns. This will quickly have you master turning the bike. Take it easy on the throttle while taking turns.
      Hey thank for your inputs. Really helpful.
      Moving to another question related to seat . Am sitting on my twins . Yes am not sitting on my bum instead sitting with the space between my anus ans testicles () and its pains very hard within a ride of around 20 Km. Consider I am very short , just 5'3 , this may be a problem related to my height. I can just tip of with my toe or front part of my feet. Just want to know if anybody here has found a solution for this . Is it my height or my riding style or seat that causing this? Adding cushion wont help since I don't want to increase seat height. I can understand if I get any reply saying this bike is not for people like me , but please l like to keep this one and have started loving it expect my bum.

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      • Re: Fule meter and others- questions on duke 200

        Originally posted by kozlov View Post
        Hey thank for your inputs. Really helpful.
        Moving to another question related to seat . Am sitting on my twins . Yes am not sitting on my bum instead sitting with the space between my anus ans testicles () and its pains very hard within a ride of around 20 Km. Consider I am very short , just 5'3 , this may be a problem related to my height. I can just tip of with my toe or front part of my feet. Just want to know if anybody here has found a solution for this . Is it my height or my riding style or seat that causing this? Adding cushion wont help since I don't want to increase seat height. I can understand if I get any reply saying this bike is not for people like me , but please l like to keep this one and have started loving it expect my bum.
        Hi, that region is called perianus and you are not the only one complaining. Almost all bikers find a bit of numbness in that area at some point of time or other. In fact there was some research which concluded this would increase the probability of male infertility
        But yes a short height exacerbates this problem.
        You should try consciously shifting around so that you rest on your bums and not strain the prianus area.I do that.
        Besides start riding with your balls of the feet resting on the footpegs(I am assuming you use your heels to rest on the footpeg now?). This will lift your legs up a tiny bit resulting in more leverage to use your bums to rest on the seat.
        Also, you can practice grabbing the tank with your knees to ease a bit of pressure from your bottom and also to avoid sliding forward
        The hero always RIDES into the sunset!

        My Touring Logs-
        French Riviera
        https://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/38345-biking-french-riviera.html
        Scotland-
        http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/3...-3600-kms.html
        France -Normandy and Paris on the CBR
        http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/3...adventure.html
        KTM chronicles-
        http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/2...hronicles.html

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        • Re: Fule meter and others- questions on duke 200

          Originally posted by Doga View Post
          Hi, that region is called perianus and you are not the only one complaining. Almost all bikers find a bit of numbness in that area at some point of time or other. In fact there was some research which concluded this would increase the probability of male infertility
          But yes a short height exacerbates this problem.
          You should try consciously shifting around so that you rest on your bums and not strain the prianus area.I do that.
          Besides start riding with your balls of the feet resting on the footpegs(I am assuming you use your heels to rest on the footpeg now?). This will lift your legs up a tiny bit resulting in more leverage to use your bums to rest on the seat.
          Also, you can practice grabbing the tank with your knees to ease a bit of pressure from your bottom and also to avoid sliding forward
          Thanks again...I have to learn and do a lot consciously.. Anyway love you for your inputs.

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          • Re: Fule meter and others- questions on duke 200

            Update from my side:

            The "high coolant temperature" issue has apparently been taken care of. There is a ground for the headlamp too which rehman hadn't inspected.
            That was loose. This was done 2 weeks back. I was waiting for a substantial period to check if it doesn't reappear like it did last time.
            I haven't had that message flashed till now.
            There is this minor(I hope so!) issue of small amount of coolants gushing out(miniscule amounts in the form of small droplets) from the radiator (from both the filler cap and the radiator cap). This was never a problem but ironically appeared right after the temp sensor was removed for checking for the "high coolant temp" issue.

            The clutch plates need replacement but the bike does manage to touch 135 albeit slowly and harshly. I am waiting for the next service 1.7k km away. I donot want to change the plates now waste the oil in the next service. There has been a drop in fuel economy which I ascribe to faulty clutch. I'll report my mileage when the clutch is replaced.

            Also the rear axle was changed under warranty, as the axle nut thread had worn out and I had the rear wobbling a bit. Poor quality again?
            Other than this 27000 km on the odo and the bike is fine and rides are enjoyable again
            Last edited by Doga; 03-14-2014, 08:05 PM.
            The hero always RIDES into the sunset!

            My Touring Logs-
            French Riviera
            https://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/38345-biking-french-riviera.html
            Scotland-
            http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/3...-3600-kms.html
            France -Normandy and Paris on the CBR
            http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/3...adventure.html
            KTM chronicles-
            http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/2...hronicles.html

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            • Re: KTM 200 Duke

              Originally posted by Doga View Post
              No no. I think he's indeed talking about knocking, when letting go of the throttle after downshifting from say 4th to 3rd(or 3rd to 2nd). A few knocks are indeed heard and I was initially apprehensive about the engine health.
              When I raised this with the KTM engineer he told me it's nothing to be worried about and is a standard engine signature.

              [COLOR="silver"]----consecutive posts
              Yeah exactly this is what I'm talking about. Its like you let go off the throttle a bit and it sounds like bhunggg....bhungg...bhung..

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              • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                Originally posted by Xzibit Roll View Post
                Yeah exactly this is what I'm talking about. Its like you let go off the throttle a bit and it sounds like bhunggg....bhungg...bhung..

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                Propensity of the engine to knock usually happens when the engine is positively loaded, this is not the case while downshifting, and often people mistake snatching for knocking. Snatching is when there's not enough power to drive the tire, and the bike starts to jerk. I ride pretty harsh, rarely touching the fifth and sixth gear because of the heavy traffic, but push the engine really hard to keep up, but never once it knocked, even while trying the normal fuel instead of Shell Super Unleaded. That is not to say these bikes don't knock at all, but knocking when downshifting is a less probable case, but if it is in fact knocking, it should be addressed proactively.


                And engine knocking sound is a sharp metalic ping.


                Here the scenario fits snatching, not knocking, and this is the justification for my earlier comment, I'm not saying that it's definitely not knock.
                Last edited by leorcid; 03-15-2014, 02:16 AM.

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                • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                  Please suggest an alternative to paddock stand ( or a cheap paddock stand itself : P ) . If any shop sells that in Delhi please provide the contact/address . It gets so hard to lube/clean the chain moving the bike alone .
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                  • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                    Originally posted by dukist View Post
                    Please suggest an alternative to paddock stand ( or a cheap paddock stand itself : P ) . If any shop sells that in Delhi please provide the contact/address . It gets so hard to lube/clean the chain moving the bike alone .


                    Try this one if you are a DIY person. I haven't done any modification yet to the tire hugger spoke, but you can try welding two pieces of rods to it to make it stay stable and pins on the other end to fix it to the swing arm.

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                    • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                      Originally posted by Ankitvile View Post
                      Ohh...exactly the water drops acuumulate there and definitely might get in there and mix up with petrol...yess i read before in this thread before about dummy screws. I cant say if they ate they main culprit. But this is certainly not good.
                      Also the spacing between the lid and cap is quite more enough to let pass the water through it.
                      Originally posted by The Mountain View Post
                      When the cap is closed, there is no way for the water to get from that black area into the tank itself. The "ring" that the cap is attached to is decorative; it's not meant to keep water/dirt out. That inner lip you see, where the fuel filler actually goes, has a corresponding rubber seal on the cap. That's the actual "cap"; the part that seals to the filler neck.
                      Originally posted by Ankitvile View Post
                      Is that rubber seal suppose to keep water out. If so its not doing good. Any aftermarket mod or ideas that would mitigate the problem bro??!....
                      Coz water entering tank is not good.
                      The black lower part after opening the lid contains about at least few 4-5ml of water evertym after riding in rain.
                      Originally posted by The Mountain View Post
                      The rubber seal doesn't keep water out of that black part. It keeps water out of the filler neck, which is the raised lip in the center of the black area. Look on the underside of the filler cap, and you'll see what I mean.
                      +1 happens to my duke200 too, my duke stay in the open parking lot, 1 day with hard rain, after that my bike stall and won't start again, in low rpm engine will stop so I need to keep in high rev until all water get away from throttle maybe.

                      +1 yes there are spacing between the lid and cap is quite more enough to let pass the water through it

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                      • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                        Originally posted by leorcid View Post
                        Propensity of the engine to knock usually happens when the engine is positively loaded, this is not the case while downshifting, and often people mistake snatching for knocking. Snatching is when there's not enough power to drive the tire, and the bike starts to jerk. I ride pretty harsh, rarely touching the fifth and sixth gear because of the heavy traffic, but push the engine really hard to keep up, but never once it knocked, even while trying the normal fuel instead of Shell Super Unleaded. That is not to say these bikes don't knock at all, but knocking when downshifting is a less probable case, but if it is in fact knocking, it should be addressed proactively.


                        And engine knocking sound is a sharp metalic ping.


                        Here the scenario fits snatching, not knocking, and this is the justification for my earlier comment, I'm not saying that it's definitely not knock.
                        I know what snatching is man! Riding in a higher gear in low revs. The bike kind of shudders and you would actually feel the drivetrain protesting, your feet getting those small jerks and eventually the bike comes to an abrupt stop.
                        The knocking I was referfing to is different , is heard sometimes even if the revs are fairly high and normally immediately after downshifting.
                        The engineer had explained the mechanics behind it once but I do not remember it now
                        The hero always RIDES into the sunset!

                        My Touring Logs-
                        French Riviera
                        https://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/38345-biking-french-riviera.html
                        Scotland-
                        http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/3...-3600-kms.html
                        France -Normandy and Paris on the CBR
                        http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/3...adventure.html
                        KTM chronicles-
                        http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/2...hronicles.html

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                        • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                          Originally posted by aha2070 View Post
                          +1 happens to my duke200 too, my duke stay in the open parking lot, 1 day with hard rain, after that my bike stall and won't start again, in low rpm engine will stop so I need to keep in high rev until all water get away from throttle maybe.

                          +1 yes there are spacing between the lid and cap is quite more enough to let pass the water through it
                          You should never keep your bike just standing in the open(especially in the rains). Many of the electrical wires might even get damaged if exposed to water for a long time. Get a cover for the bike. I always put a cover on my bike when parked in my office which is in the open..


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                          • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                            Originally posted by wallpapers123 View Post
                            You should never keep your bike just standing in the open(especially in the rains). Many of the electrical wires might even get damaged if exposed to water for a long time. Get a cover for the bike. I always put a cover on my bike when parked in my office which is in the open..


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                            Oh man this is nightmare..........come on KTM what kind of bike you made? can't stand in raining day ..........

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                            • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                              Originally posted by aha2070 View Post
                              Oh man this is nightmare..........come on KTM what kind of bike you made? can't stand in raining day ..........

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                              My bikes tank cover lid looks very much similar. Always smells petrol when bent forward while facing towards/near fuel tank

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                              • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                                Originally posted by aha2070 View Post
                                Oh man this is nightmare..........come on KTM what kind of bike you made? can't stand in raining day ..........

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                                Err... sorry but what's wrong there? I couldn't see anything. Are you highlighting the color fade which I think is more due to camera flash?

                                Oh. I get it now on a second look. Even my bikes lid can be pushed down a bit like that. It shouldn't be something you should loose sleep over. This may lead to a bit of petrol fumes escaping out from the catchment area which you smell right after a refill, especially after a tankful.
                                This upper lid doesn't require to be watertight. When you open the lid you'll see the black washer(if that's the correct term for it) which goes inside the tank and locks it,when you feel the click. This seal is watertight, at least in my case and I ahve not heard of water seeping into the tank. May be in your case that seal is faulty but by design the lid is not watertight. The catchment area which surrounds the tank hole is designed to catch the spilled petrol(spilled due to the lazy petrol bunk attendants).The reason the smell of petrol is a bit intense when you do a tankful, because that's the likeliest when petrol was spilled into the catchment area.
                                Last edited by Doga; 03-17-2014, 07:31 PM.
                                The hero always RIDES into the sunset!

                                My Touring Logs-
                                French Riviera
                                https://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/38345-biking-french-riviera.html
                                Scotland-
                                http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/3...-3600-kms.html
                                France -Normandy and Paris on the CBR
                                http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/3...adventure.html
                                KTM chronicles-
                                http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/2...hronicles.html

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