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  • Re: KTM 200 Duke

    Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
    I see a wanton distaste for Indian manufactured components, and then I see people lamenting why the country fails to see greatness.
    Anyhow sticking to motorcycles, the KTM's do not face any QC concerns as such, the reason the consumables give away frequently is due to the state of tune of the motor and nothing else.
    I remember you once asked me about the front sprocket on the p220/d200, and i gave you the info.
    just came across your recent post on tbhp (https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/motor...ml#post4485213)

    Pl note that the front sprocket of the D200 (Which is same as the P220/avenger 220) is not interchangeable with the 390. It's not just the no. of teeth, but the actual spline design is different and it probably won't go on properly.. unfortunate but true.
    The d250 and d390 seem to share the same design but with different no. of teeth and could be interchangeable.
    Do update that post lest someone ends up wasting their money on this sprocket and realize it doesn't fit on.
    You can check out the differences on Jtsprockets:
    JT Sprockets: Catalogue

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    • Re: KTM 200 Duke

      Hello guys..i wanted some advise regarding changing engine oil..my d200 was sitting idle for past 11 months. The tank was half filled with petrol during all this time. The bike had no trouble starting up. Actually it started on the first go itself. But am skeptical abt the engine oil. I stay in kerala, pretty humid. Bike was kept in an open environment under shed. The last time i changed the engine oil was 1.5 yrs ago and the bike havent run more than 1500km i guess after the oil change. There is no visible colour change in the engine oil also, pretty much same old colour. Please guide whether i should change the engine oil. In addition should i change oil filter,air filter or anything??
      Thanks.

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      • Re: KTM 200 Duke

        Originally posted by sanjay.rajan500 View Post
        Hello guys..i wanted some advise regarding changing engine oil..my d200 was sitting idle for past 11 months. The tank was half filled with petrol during all this time. The bike had no trouble starting up. Actually it started on the first go itself. But am skeptical abt the engine oil. I stay in kerala, pretty humid. Bike was kept in an open environment under shed. The last time i changed the engine oil was 1.5 yrs ago and the bike havent run more than 1500km i guess after the oil change. There is no visible colour change in the engine oil also, pretty much same old colour. Please guide whether i should change the engine oil. In addition should i change oil filter,air filter or anything??
        Thanks.
        Yes, please go ahead and do the following:
        1. Drain the fuel tank and fill in fresh fuel
        2. Change the engine oil
        3. Change all filters.. air, oil, fuel (air filter might not be required, but the other two definitely)
        4. Maybe drain, fill and bleed the brake fluid as well.

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        • Re: KTM 200 Duke

          Originally posted by sanjay.rajan500 View Post
          Hello guys..i wanted some advise regarding changing engine oil..my d200 was sitting idle for past 11 months. The tank was half filled with petrol during all this time. The bike had no trouble starting up. Actually it started on the first go itself. But am skeptical abt the engine oil. I stay in kerala, pretty humid. Bike was kept in an open environment under shed. The last time i changed the engine oil was 1.5 yrs ago and the bike havent run more than 1500km i guess after the oil change. There is no visible colour change in the engine oil also, pretty much same old colour. Please guide whether i should change the engine oil. In addition should i change oil filter,air filter or anything??
          Thanks.
          Hello Sanjay. If the bike has been sitting idle for eleven months, yet the bike hasn't been cranked for all these months, it's advisable to replace the engine oil and carry out general maintenance procedure. The fact that your little Duke cranked in the first go is a sign that she's how's she's supposed to be. Start off with replacing the engine oil, oil filter and what not. Check your battery health, if the charge is on the lower side, charging it would mean it doesn't lose its life.

          General protocol
          1. Clean your spark plug
          2. Replace engine oil along with oil filter
          3. Draining the old fuel and filling the tank with fresh fuel. Fuel leaves residue and can gum up given the circumstances.
          4. Check your tire pressure and make sure the pressure is set right
          5. Check your brakes for proper bite and feedback. If you feel it's spongy, replace the brake fluid. Brake fluids are hygroscopic. I'd recommend you to replace the brake fluid.

          6. Last but not the least and very important
          THE RADIATOR
          =========

          Make sure every ounce of the radiator fluid is drained, the radiator flushed WELL to make sure all the old fluid comes out. Flush it twice or three to make sure there are no old fluid traces and then top it up with fresh radiator fluid. Make sure the radiator system is bled well.

          And you're all set to go. All these shouldn't take more than an hour to two when done at SVC.

          If possible, do remove the wheels grease your wheel bearings and steering stem bearings.

          That's all there is to it.

          Cheers!
          VJ
          Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
          The girl said, 'NO!'


          And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


          THE END

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          • Re: KTM 200 Duke

            Is it okay to buy a 2013 Duke 200 with just 3000 km? The owner stays abroad and the bike has not been used.

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            • Re: KTM 200 Duke

              Originally posted by kedar3223 View Post
              Is it okay to buy a 2013 Duke 200 with just 3000 km? The owner stays abroad and the bike has not been used.
              Why not.. if you are getting a good deal on it. Can't comment further without actually seeing the bike or knowing its condition. If you do pick it, give it a through service and change all the fluids. And maybe use a flush additive (like the ones from 3m) with the engine oil before draining it out.

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              • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                Originally posted by kedar3223 View Post
                Is it okay to buy a 2013 Duke 200 with just 3000 km? The owner stays abroad and the bike has not been used.
                Well, it's okay to buy to the bike IF IT'S IN A good shape. But before that, I'd ask that you do a history check at the SVC for the given bike's number. Considering the bike is 3000 kays old, it might be genuinely 3k or a speedo replaced, you just never know and pulling the service history is easy. Nonetheless, if you get a good deal and all the "used bike check markers" are ticked to satisfaction, then why not.

                Cheers!
                VJ
                Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                The girl said, 'NO!'


                And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                THE END

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                • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                  I am facing a peculiar behavior on the console.
                  The past few months I noticed that the shift light was not coming on.. i was too lazy to check why until today.
                  So today I checked the console for the rpm1 and rpm2 settings, and what i noticed was that both the values were at 12500 rpm. I then proceeded to change the values.. but wasn't able to. Following the procedure i.e. going into trip2 - holding down mode (or set) depending on rpm1 or rpm2 - and then using mode/set to change the values. The value wouldn't budge for either rpm1 or rpm2 and was 'stuck' at 12500 rpm. Tried disconnecting the battery, checked with the diag tool .. no go. The svc guys were also stumped and have never seen such behavior.
                  Later on probably I will again disconnect the battery, take out all the fuses, disconnect the console and put them back together and see how it goes.
                  And maybe also reset both trip meters, reset the service reminder as well.

                  The only change on the bike was a dying battery, which was changed earlier this week. The shift light though wasn't coming on ever prior to the battery change. Wonder if the low battery fiasco, caused this to happen. (I had described about the battery life/behavior a few posts ago)
                  The bike has no other issues and runs just fine..

                  Anybody faced such an issue ? Got a solution ?

                  And btw, the P220 rear brake pads are a direct fit on the D200.. the svc themselves told me this. Buggers did not have the brake pads in stock!


                  PS: anybody tried setting both rpm1 and rpm2 to the same value? what happens? maybe a bug with the console damn these electronics.

                  Interesting thing that i remembered which happened on my bike earlier:
                  Last edited by s1d; 11-17-2018, 12:07 PM.

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                  • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                    Originally posted by s1d View Post
                    I am facing a peculiar behavior on the console.
                    The past few months I noticed that the shift light was not coming on.. i was too lazy to check why until today.
                    This is new to me neither.

                    Now from my experience, the RPM 1 wouldn't go beyond a certain RPM if the RPM 2 is set to max.

                    MAX values from my bike RPM 1: 12450 for a Duke 390 and RPM 2: 12500. I've set my RPM 1 to 7500 and RPM 2 to 8500


                    RPM 1 and 2 cannot be set at 12500 for obvious reasons, as the RPM 2 should always be higher. If in fact, you're able to set both the RPM 1 and RPM 2 to the same value, your console must be acting weird. AFAIK, there ain't no bugs with the console. As even if you set the value of RPM 2 FIRST to your desired value, the value of RPM 1 will be automatically maxed out to the lower value than that of RPM 2. As at RPM 1 the light flashes and at RPM 2 the light stays steady.

                    If you're disconnecting the battery, the power supply to the entire motorcycle is nullfied, so removing fuses is unnecessary. Perhaps you can remove your console, a Zorrik treatment perhaps and then check if it works. May sound silly, but at least it's well worth the try.
                    Start off with resetting RPM 1 if you can. Do keep your observations posted.

                    Cheers!
                    VJ
                    Last edited by B7ACKTHORN; 11-17-2018, 08:25 PM.
                    Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                    The girl said, 'NO!'


                    And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                    THE END

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                    • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                      Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
                      This is new to me neither.

                      Now from my experience, the RPM 1 wouldn't go beyond a certain RPM if the RPM 2 is set to max.

                      MAX values from my bike RPM 1: 12450 for a Duke 390 and RPM 2: 12500. I've set my RPM 1 to 7500 and RPM 2 to 8500


                      RPM 1 and 2 cannot be set at 12500 for obvious reasons, as the RPM 2 should always be higher. If in fact, you're able to set both the RPM 1 and RPM 2 to the same value, your console must be acting weird. AFAIK, there ain't no bugs with the console. As even if you set the value of RPM 2 FIRST to your desired value, the value of RPM 1 will be automatically maxed out to the lower value than that of RPM 2. As at RPM 1 the light flashes and at RPM 2 the light stays steady.

                      If you're disconnecting the battery, the power supply to the entire motorcycle is nullfied, so removing fuses is unnecessary. Perhaps you can remove your console, a Zorrik treatment perhaps and then check if it works. May sound silly, but at least it's well worth the try.
                      Start off with resetting RPM 1 if you can. Do keep your observations posted.

                      Cheers!
                      VJ
                      Like I said, the RPM1 and RPM2 values are both stuck at 12500 ..no idea how that happened. And they refuse to budge.
                      There can never be no bugs with these electronics and software... just that they haven't been discovered yet lol
                      If you read one of my earlier posts that I had linked you will see that i had described with pictures the rpm1/rpm2 values showing something like xx48.. which isn't normal or documented by ktm. Again no idea why that happened.
                      the svc guy said they have never seen this happen.. but had once seen the trip F value stuck and had to refuel the bike to get that back to working normal.
                      going to try and disconnect the stuff i mentioned earlier..see how it goes.. if not also get the DTC cleared using diag tool and see if that helps.
                      Last edited by s1d; 11-18-2018, 12:48 PM.

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                      • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                        Originally posted by s1d View Post
                        I am facing a peculiar behavior on the console.
                        The past few months I noticed that the shift light was not coming on.. i was too lazy to check why until today.
                        So today I checked the console for the rpm1 and rpm2 settings, and what i noticed was that both the values were at 12500 rpm.
                        This morning again tried fidgeting around with the console, reset the service reminder a few times, changed km to miles and back to km, resetting the trip meters.. lo and behold ended up with sore finger tips while the rpm values refuse to budge.
                        will take apart more stuff next weekend and see how it goes.. planning to disconnect ecu, console, battery, fuses et all and put em back.

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                        • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                          Originally posted by s1d View Post
                          This morning again tried fidgeting around with the console, reset the service reminder a few times, changed km to miles and back to km, resetting the trip meters.. lo and behold ended up with sore finger tips while the rpm values refuse to budge.
                          will take apart more stuff next weekend and see how it goes.. planning to disconnect ecu, console, battery, fuses et all and put em back.
                          That's sad! What I'd suggest is, remove the console alone, if you can. Take it to the SVC, and if possible, try connecting the console of another bike's connector and see how it fares, if that's feasible. If it still doesn't budge, then we can consider a Plan B of sorts. But as long as your RPM, ODO, everything apart from shift light is working, why bother replacing it, let it be as it is and you can consider yourself an upgrade.

                          Nevertheless, keep your observations posted.


                          Originally posted by s1d View Post
                          Like I said, the RPM1 and RPM2 values are both stuck at 12500 ..no idea how that happened. And they refuse to budge.
                          There can never be no bugs with these electronics and software... just that they haven't been discovered yet lol
                          Special Edition perhaps!


                          Cheers!
                          VJ
                          Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                          The girl said, 'NO!'


                          And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                          THE END

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                          • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                            Originally posted by Samarth 619 View Post
                            KTM Duke 200 'ABS' launched in India.

                            At an ex-showroom price of Rs. 1.6 Lacs (Rs. 9k above the non-ABS model), KTM has finally launched the KTM Duke 200 ABS in India






                            ---
                            Source link: https://www.autocarindia.com/bike-ne...16-lakh-410557
                            So it's finally here, 2019 KTM Duke 200 with single channel ABS!

                            Going by the above 2 pics, the tyres seem to be Metzeler Sportec M5's!
                            Is the pic from International model? All websites are publishing the same pics. So, are the MRF's now replaced with Metz in this 2019 model along with adding ABS in this update?

                            If anyone has more information, please share the same.
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                            Bajaj Discover 135 DTSi Sports - 2009 to Current
                            KTM RC390 - 2015 to Curr​ent
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                            • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                              Originally posted by kiran2508 View Post
                              So it's finally here, 2019 KTM Duke 200 with single channel ABS!

                              Going by the above 2 pics, the tyres seem to be Metzeler Sportec M5's!
                              Is the pic from International model? All websites are publishing the same pics. So, are the MRF's now replaced with Metz in this 2019 model along with adding ABS in this update?

                              If anyone has more information, please share the same.
                              Not sure what tire the little putter will have, we'll have to wait and watch. And about single-channel setup, it's highly unlikely that the motorcycle would come with a single channel, the Duke 200 deserves a dual channel, again which we have to wait and see. My gut hunch tells me it should be a dual-channel.

                              Cheers!
                              VJ
                              Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                              The girl said, 'NO!'


                              And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                              THE END

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                              • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                                Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
                                the Duke 200 deserves a dual channel, again which we have to wait and see
                                Yes it really needs ABS on both wheels, but sadly Bajaj-KTM have gone the profit making route and gone with the single channel ABS.

                                Here is side-by-side compare with the rear wheel of the 390 vs new 200, 200 is clearly missing the rear ABS sensor even though ABS ring is present
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                                Last edited by kiran2508; 11-23-2018, 10:51 PM.
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