Re: KTM 200 Duke

It is usually behind the fuse box.. remove the fuse box (press and pull it out) and look behind/under the tail light area.
And remember to keep the connector that you remove safely (it will have a piece of wire jumpered across two pins).. in case your hazard light module goes bad, you might need to put back the stock connector to be able to start the bike.

Re: KTM 200 Duke

I was practising my clutch release and throttle blip timings (for revmatching) in neutral gear and I heard this strange momentary engine rev sound. You can hear it in the audio file at 6, 17, 20, 22, 24 and 30 sec mark.



In order to replicate this sound, start releasing clutch (Neutral gear) and give minimal throttle immediately. It takes a couple of tries to get that sound.

During riding when going from 3rd to 2nd, if I try to revmatch sometimes the bike shuts down. I'm guessing its probably due to this bad timing where I get this sound.

So is this sound normal? I don't see how pulling and releasing the clutch in neutral gear should affect the engine rev.

Re: KTM 200 Duke

why are you even doing this in neutral ?
the bike needs to be moving in gear (not neutral) for you practice rev-matching.
hopefully that 'popping' is not detonation and maybe just exhaust popping due to incomplete combustion (i.e. some unburnt fuel being burnt in exhaust) or a leak in the exhaust/intake.
how many km has your bike run ?
first try and fuel up from a different petrol bunk and see if this persists.. sometimes bad fuel can cause this popping.
I'll check this on my d200 in a while and let you know if i see similar behavior.

Re: KTM 200 Duke

just tried it on my d200.. no popping or farting when you blip the throttle in neutral. unless my hearing is bad, that sound is definitely not normal/shouldn't occur so often. (it does happen rarely on the move at higher rpm's when you abruptly close throttle.. especially on the 390)
so as i mentioned earlier, first try to use up the existing fuel (till the last bar) and tank up from a different petrol bunk.. ride a few km and check again.
if that sound still persists, get the intake and exhaust checked for leaks.. and then try to swap the o2 sensor with one from another bike and check.

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just tried it on my d200.. no popping or farting when you blip the throttle in neutral. unless my hearing is bad, that sound is definitely not normal/shouldn't occur so often. (it does happen rarely on the move at higher rpm's when you abruptly close throttle.. especially on the 390)
so as i mentioned earlier, first try to use up the existing fuel (till the last bar) and tank up from a different petrol bunk.. ride a few km and check again.
if that sound still persists, get the intake and exhaust checked for leaks.. and then try to swap the o2 sensor with one from another bike and check.

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Bike odo is 7500kms.

And no need to pull the clutch. In neutral gear just give a minimum throttle and release (do this very quickly), the engine will make that sound sometimes.

EDIT: Check the newer post at next page.

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Totally normal.The sound you hear can be reproduced if you whack open the throttle suddenly and then let go of it.I came across this a year back but never thought somebody else would also notice this haha. I can reproduce it on every 200and 390 there is. Don't worry. It's just something nobody notices.There's nothing wrong with the bike, its a normal behavior.

Another "bug" in the 390's I've experienced is, when aggressively downshifting while rev-matching, the bike sometimes (1 in a 1000 times) cuts throttle for a second and comes back. Its feels like there's no feeback from the throttle. Hard to explain but it's there. Its just how the bike is I guess.

Re: KTM 200 Duke

As of now the sound comes very rarely, I created that sound last evening just to record it. So in the future if that sound comes too often then I will take it to service.

Oh that's a relief.

I whack it very little, just a 50rpm rise. Later I will give more throttle and check.

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Can you please let me know the authenticity as to who informed you that the earlier models were manufactured in Austria? Would personally love to get more information on this so is our members. If my memory serves me correct, I don't think any 200 or 390 per se were manufactured in Austria. Though the are QC'd in the EU for the EU and CEW EU countries, I don't think they manufactured any of the 200 or 390 there. Keep us posted.

From what I can reckon, it clearly is pinging. Pinging is more or less detonation or knocking, and I would suggest not to lug the engine. When throttle is opened all of a sudden when the engine RPM low, the sudden opening of throttle does lead to pinging or knocking. Usually knocking is a result of poor fuel or wrong grade of fuel. Usually high compression engines require higher RON rating fuel as they are more compressible, the lesser the RON the sooner they combust and cause pinging or detonation in HC engines.

If you feel this happens even when you are riding your motorcycle, especially during throttle transitions, you might want to consider a different fuel pump, and observe.

Cheers!
VJ

Re: KTM 200 Duke

The sound never comes during riding; or maybe I don't hear it with my double balaclava and helmet on, but I don't think it comes while riding.

I happen to notice that sound while blipping in neutral gear yesterday. As u/chip94 says, this sound comes during whacking throttle and immediately releasing, which is an accurate description for how I get this sound.

And I use Speed fuel most of the times, and I can vouch for the fuel being good quality as there is noticeable difference for me in throttle response between the speed fuel and normal fuel. I use 2 different fuel pumps (both Speed) and the throttle and mileage is same for both pumps so I guess fuel is fine.

But yeah I think I can relax based on what u/chip94 says, which I feel is most likely to be what is actually happening with the bike.

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Help !

I tried starting my duke today morning but it just wouldn't start i can hear fuel pump starting ,honk sound is normal,indicators are fine but it wouldn't get started .

It makes weird noise from back while starting.

The dashboard goes blank if i start.

As far as i remember it shows the error code "J.G.1.7.1" not very sure of numbers.

Service centre is 40KM away.

Any heads up will be immensely helpful.

Thanks.

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Is there enough fuel in the tank?

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Re: KTM 200 Duke

Of course there is fuel.

Re: KTM 200 Duke

I faced the same issue on my RS200 day before yesterday..

There was only little fuel left in the tank, got 1litrr petrol and it started.

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Re: KTM 200 Duke

If there is less fuel bike dashboard won't shut down i think so ?

Re: KTM 200 Duke

My RPM needle was struggling to swipe .
Heard the weird sound from back side also from the radiator part.

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