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**rahulrajan14** · 01-19-2017, 11:50 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by s1d View Post

Whaat??!

It would be 'possible' but I don't think it's worth the effort. The ktm's have one of the best front suspension in the market.. First get the suspension checked for any signs of damage (especially the rear and if its covered by that plastic cap, which can hide leaks)
one small change you could do is maybe change the fork oil to the bajaj(made by hp, comes in a white/blue bottle at Rs.50 per 150ml) brand of fork oil. IIRC it's a slightly heavier oil compared to the 5W ktm fork oil (white bottle at Rs.98 per 150ml). This might stiffen the front a wee bit.
Also if needed he can adjust the preload on the rear monoshock (the stock setting at 3 is too soft), so maybe increase that to 5 if he weighs more than 70kg or regularly carries a pillion (this bike is best enjoyed solo

)

thanks for your valuable comment, [MENTION=16602]s1d[/MENTION] i will pass the information to my brother.

**tomk** · 01-21-2017, 12:11 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Hello,

I am confused between RPM and speed. For all of these months I thought the higher the RPM the higher the speed. Now I realize that RPM increases when we throttle full speed in low gears as well so it has less connection the speed.

I wanted to know whether higher gears in low speed would fetch me better mileage? Let's say I ride in 4th gear at 40kmph. Would the average then be better if I ride in 3rd gear at 40 kmph because 3rd gear RPM at 40 would be higher than 4th gear RPM at 40?

I am beginner at this so please forgive if I misunderstood anything but I hope you get the idea.

**s1d** · 01-21-2017, 02:43 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by tomk View Post

I am confused between RPM and speed. For all of these months I thought the higher the RPM the higher the speed. Now I realize that RPM increases when we throttle full speed in low gears as well so it has less connection the speed.

I wanted to know whether higher gears in low speed would fetch me better mileage? Let's say I ride in 4th gear at 40kmph. Would the average then be better if I ride in 3rd gear at 40 kmph because 3rd gear RPM at 40 would be higher than 4th gear RPM at 40?

I am beginner at this so please forgive if I misunderstood anything but I hope you get the idea.

RPM is how fast the engine spins, and Speed (kmph) is how fast the vehicle goes.
The RPM vs speed depends on the gear ratio's.. each bike has it's own ratio's and that's the reason some bikes can pull more speed in each gear or ride at lower speed (without lugging/coughing) at a higher gear.

As an example you will be at a higher rpm doing 40kmph in 3rd than in 4th gear. Shifting up early (not too early or you end up lugging the engine which is bad) and keeping the rpm's lower will result in better fuel economy and engine life.
But if you ride at an higher rpm rather than shifting up, you will burn more fuel. The lower the rpm (to an extent) the better the fuel economy.

On the duke 200, you could shift up at around 5000~5500 rpm and keep it below 7000rpm for good economy (i.e. 35+ kmpl). You also have the shift indicator light that you can set to help you shift up at these rpms.
Set RPM1 (where the light blinks) to say 5300rpm so that you can see the light blink and up shift.
If you want to enjoy decent acceleration/torque, then up-shift at around 6500 rpm.. this will give you good acceleration while still not straining the engine much and the economy might drop a wee bit.

**tomk** · 01-23-2017, 04:45 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by s1d View Post

RPM is how fast the engine spins, and Speed (kmph) is how fast the vehicle goes.
The RPM vs speed depends on the gear ratio's.. each bike has it's own ratio's and that's the reason some bikes can pull more speed in each gear or ride at lower speed (without lugging/coughing) at a higher gear.

As an example you will be at a higher rpm doing 40kmph in 3rd than in 4th gear. Shifting up early (not too early or you end up lugging the engine which is bad) and keeping the rpm's lower will result in better fuel economy and engine life.
But if you ride at an higher rpm rather than shifting up, you will burn more fuel. The lower the rpm (to an extent) the better the fuel economy.

On the duke 200, you could shift up at around 5000~5500 rpm and keep it below 7000rpm for good economy (i.e. 35+ kmpl). You also have the shift indicator light that you can set to help you shift up at these rpms.
Set RPM1 (where the light blinks) to say 5300rpm so that you can see the light blink and up shift.
If you want to enjoy decent acceleration/torque, then up-shift at around 6500 rpm.. this will give you good acceleration while still not straining the engine much and the economy might drop a wee bit.

Thanks so much sir. Fully understood.

**PDEBANSHI** · 01-24-2017, 05:52 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

I am getting a used ktm duke 200 of the year 2015. It has got new set of recommended tyre and new chain set. Its run about 25000 kms and own bye a college student. Checked It personally once and happy with the condition but did not take a taste drive due to short time.
I will check it tomorrow again and planning to go for 30 km ride before closing the deal.

1. what are things that I should check carefully?
2. what should be the maximum price?
3. Is it wise to bye a 25000km run ktm?
4. What are the papers I need to check?
5. If I do purchase it, what are the thing that I need to change Immediately to keep it healthy and how much will it cost.

P.S. -- The bike is not modified in any way. And the bike live 50 km away from my hometown so I need to go fully prepared.

**snoufaltariq** · 01-24-2017, 05:59 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Does anybody know the hard seat fix for the 200 duke i was a pillion rider for a 170 km man that hurted me to a extent of frustration

**kundalus** · 01-24-2017, 06:31 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by snoufaltariq View Post

Does anybody know the hard seat fix for the 200 duke i was a pillion rider for a 170 km man that hurted me to a extent of frustration

I used a after market cushion cover made of spounge just like a seat cover but thicker one. Eases the PIA, I ride solo mostly and never had any pain after putting it on for almost 20k Km now. Costs around 170₹. I did solo trips of 300kms at a stretch with no complaint whatsoever.

**snoufaltariq** · 01-24-2017, 06:44 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by kundalus View Post

I used a after market cushion cover made of spounge just like a seat cover but thicker one. Eases the PIA, I ride solo mostly and never had any pain after putting it on for almost 20k Km now. Costs around 170₹. I did solo trips of 300kms at a stretch with no complaint whatsoever.

Where did you buy [emoji3] ??

**kundalus** · 01-24-2017, 06:48 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by snoufaltariq View Post

Where did you buy [emoji3] ??

Got it from a regular seat cover guy

**snoufaltariq** · 01-24-2017, 06:55 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by kundalus View Post

Got it from a regular seat cover guy

Thanks mate will see and update

**s1d** · 01-24-2017, 07:30 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by PDEBANSHI View Post

I am getting a used ktm duke 200 of the year 2015. It has got new set of recommended tyre and new chain set. Its run about 25000 kms and own bye a college student. Checked It personally once and happy with the condition but did not take a taste drive due to short time.
I will check it tomorrow again and planning to go for 30 km ride before closing the deal.

1. what are things that I should check carefully?
2. what should be the maximum price?
3. Is it wise to bye a 25000km run ktm?
4. What are the papers I need to check?
5. If I do purchase it, what are the thing that I need to change Immediately to keep it healthy and how much will it cost.

P.S. -- The bike is not modified in any way. And the bike live 50 km away from my hometown so I need to go fully prepared.

Ask the owner for service records (bills or entries in the owners manual for the services)
Check if he has claimed insurance in the past (could indicate an accident)
Preferably get the bike to a ktm service center and let them connect their tool and check for any diagnostic error codes. They can also see the various parameters and check if the fan is coming on at the set temp.
If possible ride another ktm that you know is in a good condition or a couple of test rides from a showroom on a different 200. This will give you an idea on how a 200 rides and you will be in a better position to assess the state of the bike you are buying.
Get a good long test ride, and make it a point to ride it in traffic for a few minutes so that you will know if the fan kicks in or it throws any surprises.
Check engine oil (if he uses the recommended motul 7100, the oil will appear red or dull red depending on how long its been inside) and coolant level. Ride the bike a bit, then let it stand for a minute and check oil level with the bike upright (someone holding it). If you notice any grey or cloudiness in the oil, stay away.. it might indicate a blown head gasket.
Check closely for any smoke from the exhaust.
Inspect brake pads for excessive wear (they are cheap to replace though), and also the disc rotor for any deep grooves (might indicate the chap rode with worn pads damaging the rotor)
Finally, paper work.. The RC card, Insurance (if the insurance is expired, bargain.. since you'd have to pay for it later) and ensure it doesn't have a loan against it. The rest of the paper work related to transfer of ownership, please check with the rto (or a broker) in your area.

Well, if the bike is in good nick it's worth the buy. For eg. my d200 has run close to 28k km in 2.3 years and is in good condition (some folks are surprised to hear it's age/odo reading.. and tell me it looks 'new')

As for pricing, I'd say anything under 1.1L is a good buy..

And if you do decide to purchase it, give it for a full general service that includes replacing all filters, spark plug, engine oil. Apart from that get the coolant also drained and refilled with fresh one and same goes for brake fluid. Also get the rear brake caliper greased (there is a pin on which the caliper slides.. this area is greased) finally other parts such as brake pads based on their condition.

**PDEBANSHI** · 01-24-2017, 08:51 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by s1d View Post

Ask the owner for service records (bills or entries in the owners manual for the services)
Check if he has claimed insurance in the past (could indicate an accident)
Preferably get the bike to a ktm service center and let them connect their tool and check for any diagnostic error codes. They can also see the various parameters and check if the fan is coming on at the set temp.
If possible ride another ktm that you know is in a good condition or a couple of test rides from a showroom on a different 200. This will give you an idea on how a 200 rides and you will be in a better position to assess the state of the bike you are buying.
Get a good long test ride, and make it a point to ride it in traffic for a few minutes so that you will know if the fan kicks in or it throws any surprises.
Check engine oil (if he uses the recommended motul 7100, the oil will appear red or dull red depending on how long its been inside) and coolant level. Ride the bike a bit, then let it stand for a minute and check oil level with the bike upright (someone holding it). If you notice any grey or cloudiness in the oil, stay away.. it might indicate a blown head gasket.
Check closely for any smoke from the exhaust.
Inspect brake pads for excessive wear (they are cheap to replace though), and also the disc rotor for any deep grooves (might indicate the chap rode with worn pads damaging the rotor)
Finally, paper work.. The RC card, Insurance (if the insurance is expired, bargain.. since you'd have to pay for it later) and ensure it doesn't have a loan against it. The rest of the paper work related to transfer of ownership, please check with the rto (or a broker) in your area.

Well, if the bike is in good nick it's worth the buy. For eg. my d200 has run close to 28k km in 2.3 years and is in good condition (some folks are surprised to hear it's age/odo reading.. and tell me it looks 'new')

As for pricing, I'd say anything under 1.1L is a good buy..

And if you do decide to purchase it, give it for a full general service that includes replacing all filters, spark plug, engine oil. Apart from that get the coolant also drained and refilled with fresh one and same goes for brake fluid. Also get the rear brake caliper greased (there is a pin on which the caliper slides.. this area is greased) finally other parts such as brake pads based on their condition.

how to know that the owner clamed for insurance and has any loan from the paper work

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Originally posted by s1d View Post

Ask the owner for service records (bills or entries in the owners manual for the services)
Check if he has claimed insurance in the past (could indicate an accident)
Preferably get the bike to a ktm service center and let them connect their tool and check for any diagnostic error codes. They can also see the various parameters and check if the fan is coming on at the set temp.
If possible ride another ktm that you know is in a good condition or a couple of test rides from a showroom on a different 200. This will give you an idea on how a 200 rides and you will be in a better position to assess the state of the bike you are buying.
Get a good long test ride, and make it a point to ride it in traffic for a few minutes so that you will know if the fan kicks in or it throws any surprises.
Check engine oil (if he uses the recommended motul 7100, the oil will appear red or dull red depending on how long its been inside) and coolant level. Ride the bike a bit, then let it stand for a minute and check oil level with the bike upright (someone holding it). If you notice any grey or cloudiness in the oil, stay away.. it might indicate a blown head gasket.
Check closely for any smoke from the exhaust.
Inspect brake pads for excessive wear (they are cheap to replace though), and also the disc rotor for any deep grooves (might indicate the chap rode with worn pads damaging the rotor)
Finally, paper work.. The RC card, Insurance (if the insurance is expired, bargain.. since you'd have to pay for it later) and ensure it doesn't have a loan against it. The rest of the paper work related to transfer of ownership, please check with the rto (or a broker) in your area.

Well, if the bike is in good nick it's worth the buy. For eg. my d200 has run close to 28k km in 2.3 years and is in good condition (some folks are surprised to hear it's age/odo reading.. and tell me it looks 'new')

As for pricing, I'd say anything under 1.1L is a good buy..

And if you do decide to purchase it, give it for a full general service that includes replacing all filters, spark plug, engine oil. Apart from that get the coolant also drained and refilled with fresh one and same goes for brake fluid. Also get the rear brake caliper greased (there is a pin on which the caliper slides.. this area is greased) finally other parts such as brake pads based on their condition.

how to know that the owner clamed for insurance and has any loan from the paper work

**s1d** · 01-25-2017, 12:17 AM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by PDEBANSHI View Post

how to know that the owner clamed for insurance and has any loan from the paper work

if the owner has renewed his insurance on time, the renewed policy will indicate if any claims were made on the earlier policy (i.e. ncb- no claims bonus would be 0 otherwise it's usually 20% for the second yr). You can also check with the insurer if any claims were made using the insurance policy number.

as for a loan, the RC will usually have an entry that says something like "hypothecated to hdfc bank" . Once the loan is cleared, the owner has to submit the loan clearance document at the rto and the rto will reissue the rc without the "hypothecated to".

**PDEBANSHI** · 01-25-2017, 12:37 AM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by s1d View Post

if the owner has renewed his insurance on time, the renewed policy will indicate if any claims were made on the earlier policy (i.e. ncb- no claims bonus would be 0 otherwise it's usually 20% for the second yr). You can also check with the insurer if any claims were made using the insurance policy number.

as for a loan, the RC will usually have an entry that says something like "hypothecated to hdfc bank" . Once the loan is cleared, the owner has to submit the loan clearance document at the rto and the rto will reissue the rc without the "hypothecated to".

Thanks a lot.. you save my day....

**Lanesra** · 01-25-2017, 09:31 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Guys, is there alarm connector on KTM duke 200 2016 Model. I bought new Hazard light from Spiraltech but cant find alarm connector below Pillion seat. I think it is 16 pin connector.
Cant somebody let me know ASAP.
TIA.

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