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**200Duker1993** · 01-29-2017, 12:48 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by 200Duker1993 View Post

Help !

I tried starting my duke today morning but it just wouldn't start i can hear fuel pump starting ,honk sound is normal,indicators are fine but it wouldn't get started .

It makes weird noise from back while starting.

The dashboard goes blank if i start.

As far as i remember it shows the error code "J.G.1.7.1" not very sure of numbers.

Service centre is 40KM away.

Any heads up will be immensely helpful.

Thanks.

Error code is JG_1.7.7

**chip94** · 01-29-2017, 04:31 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by philip.gunner View Post

The sound never comes during riding; or maybe I don't hear it with my double balaclava and helmet on, but I don't think it comes while riding.

I happen to notice that sound while blipping in neutral gear yesterday. As u/chip94 says, this sound comes during whacking throttle and immediately releasing, which is an accurate description for how I get this sound.

And I use Speed fuel most of the times, and I can vouch for the fuel being good quality as there is noticeable difference for me in throttle response between the speed fuel and normal fuel. I use 2 different fuel pumps (both Speed) and the throttle and mileage is same for both pumps so I guess fuel is fine.

But yeah I think I can relax based on what u/chip94 says, which I feel is most likely to be what is actually happening with the bike.

You will never hear this sound while riding. If I remember correctly, I came across this sound when in neutral only. Its normal with ALL Ktm's. It's just that very few people ever notice this. Just relax and enjoy your bike

**s1d** · 01-29-2017, 07:32 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by 200Duker1993 View Post

Error code is JG_1.7.7

That is electrical related.. in most cases battery/charging system or related wiring.

Please get the battery checked at a local battery shop. First check if the terminals are connected properly, and then check the voltage at the terminals with:
1. Bike off - reading should be around 12.7 V
2. At the moment when you crank the bike to start it - (at least around 9.5V i.e. when you 'load' the battery, the voltage will drop)
2. At idle - around 13V
3. At 5000rpm - around 14.5 V
Most battery shops will do this. Based on these tests you will know if the battery is on it's way out or a bad stator coil or RR unit.

**200Duker1993** · 01-29-2017, 07:45 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by s1d View Post

That is electrical related.. in most cases battery/charging system or related wiring.

Please get the battery checked at a local battery shop. First check if the terminals are connected properly, and then check the voltage at the terminals with:
1. Bike off - reading should be around 12.7 V
2. At the moment when you crank the bike to start it - (at least around 9.5V i.e. when you 'load' the battery, the voltage will drop)
2. At idle - around 13V
3. At 5000rpm - around 14.5 V
Most battery shops will do this. Based on these tests you will know if the battery is on it's way out or a bad stator coil or RR unit.

Thanks for the reply s!d
it happened all of a sudden today morning as far as i remember one r twice the error flashed this month but din't care about it.

Sure will remove the battery and get it checked as you have suggested.

**s1d** · 01-29-2017, 07:51 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by 200Duker1993 View Post

Sure will remove the battery and get it checked as you have suggested.

the battery needs to be in the bike to do the tests i just mentioned.

**200Duker1993** · 01-29-2017, 07:55 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by s1d View Post

the battery needs to be in the bike to do the tests i just mentioned.

Ok sure getting the bike started is a big issue though.

**s1d** · 01-29-2017, 08:12 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by 200Duker1993 View Post

Ok sure getting the bike started is a big issue though.

then maybe you can ask the battery guy to come home and check, if not take the battery.. do basic test and charge it and put it back in your bike and then do the tests with the battery in the bike.

**B7ACKTHORN** · 01-29-2017, 11:30 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by 200Duker1993 View Post

Help !

As far as i remember it shows the error code "J.G.1.7.1" not very sure of numbers.

Service centre is 40KM away.

Any heads up will be immensely helpful.

Thanks.

Sometimes it can be as simple as a loose terminal to a weak battery to something critical as a stator replacement. What I would suggest and as reiterated by Sid, is check your battery terminals, how old is your battery? If your battery is more than three years I'd suggest you consider replacing your battery. Secondly, check the voltage at the battery terminals with the engine spinning at 5000 RPM the voltage should be 13.5 to 15 volts. Since, both the Duke 390 and 200 share more or less the same stator specification, it's a good idea to check your stator too. If you have a battery error or the J.G.1.7.1 message displayed frequently, then it's time to replace the stator. But before make sure all the diagnostics are carried out properly from the SVC side.

Cheers!
VJ

**Spartan_KTM** · 01-29-2017, 11:38 PM

Duke 200 Exhaust pipe looks bad.

Noticed today while water wash the exhaust pipe has got a layer of mud (I guess) which won't go with normal washing. Too scared to scrape it off with something else. Is this normal, the exhaust pipe picking up mud?

**200Duker1993** · 01-30-2017, 12:50 AM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post

Sometimes it can be as simple as a loose terminal to a weak battery to something critical as a stator replacement. What I would suggest and as reiterated by Sid, is check your battery terminals, how old is your battery? If your battery is more than three years I'd suggest you consider replacing your battery. Secondly, check the voltage at the battery terminals with the engine spinning at 5000 RPM the voltage should be 13.5 to 15 volts. Since, both the Duke 390 and 200 share more or less the same stator specification, it's a good idea to check your stator too. If you have a battery error or the J.G.1.7.1 message displayed frequently, then it's time to replace the stator. But before make sure all the diagnostics are carried out properly from the SVC side.

Cheers!
VJ

The bike is exactly an year old so never changed the battery yet .19,800KM on ODO.
It doesn't even show low battery error on the screen.

Just the JG_1.7.7
IF i keep trying to start the screen goes blank.

**200Duker1993** · 01-30-2017, 12:21 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by s1d View Post

That is electrical related.. in most cases battery/charging system or related wiring.

Please get the battery checked at a local battery shop. First check if the terminals are connected properly, and then check the voltage at the terminals with:
1. Bike off - reading should be around 12.7 V
2. At the moment when you crank the bike to start it - (at least around 9.5V i.e. when you 'load' the battery, the voltage will drop)
2. At idle - around 13V
3. At 5000rpm - around 14.5 V
Most battery shops will do this. Based on these tests you will know if the battery is on it's way out or a bad stator coil or RR unit.

I just took the battery from bike and gave it for charging. Hope its just the low battery.Bike just an year old , 20,000KM on ODO.

**s1d** · 01-30-2017, 06:00 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by 200Duker1993 View Post

I just took the battery from bike and gave it for charging. Hope its just the low battery.Bike just an year old , 20,000KM on ODO.

well, let's see. if it's not the battery, it would probably be the stator coil or rr unit (should be under warranty)
when you collect the battery, ask the battery guy to come and install it and check the voltages as i mentioned earlier.
if you keep running your good (Assuming) battery flat a few times (probably due to the charging system failure), then this might wear out the battery and you will need to get a new battery.
The battery iirc, only comes with a one year warranty.. the stator and other parts are covered for 2yr/30000km.

**200Duker1993** · 01-30-2017, 11:05 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by s1d View Post

well, let's see. if it's not the battery, it would probably be the stator coil or rr unit (should be under warranty)
when you collect the battery, ask the battery guy to come and install it and check the voltages as i mentioned earlier.
if you keep running your good (Assuming) battery flat a few times (probably due to the charging system failure), then this might wear out the battery and you will need to get a new battery.
The battery iirc, only comes with a one year warranty.. the stator and other parts are covered for 2yr/30000km.

Just got the battery back and installed mechanic din't come to install.

Initially din't start well then second started by giving little acceleration and after a minute switch on the headlights there it goes.... again showing same error JG_1.7.7

Second time started again giving little acceleration went out for half a KM na switched on headlamps its fine now.

In a month or so twice the clock reset itself i din't care much about it then.

**Gowtham Msd** · 01-31-2017, 12:29 AM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Buy the duke 2016 now or wait for 2017 duke 200( if it will be launched) ?!
What's ur suggestions guys?!

**cgassassin** · 01-31-2017, 03:27 AM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by Gowtham Msd View Post

Buy the duke 2016 now or wait for 2017 duke 200( if it will be launched) ?!
What's ur suggestions guys?!

wait for duke 200 2017 looks really great and agressive but yes it will be a little costly then the current model.

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