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**B7ACKTHORN** · 05-06-2016, 01:01 AM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by ivan1985 View Post

Thanks for your reply my friend. Its 2014 model but it has not switch for the lights. Only big scale. Lights are on all day.
I think that if the tail lamp ( leds) are wrong it wouldn't work at all but as i mention earlier when i use the brake all the leds light on ( if i remember correct there are 12 leds) and when i release it all goes off. I was thinking that its a fuse or a problem with the relay because my front lamp also refuses to turn on sometimes...
My bike is 2 months old. if i need to replace all the tail lamp do i have to pay for it or its considered under warranty?

I forgot to mention that before some minutes i turned the key and the back light (all the leds) went on but when i started the engine it off again. that happened only once if that helps. normaly those 3 days when i turn the key nothing happens(tail lamp is off expept when i brake)

From what I understand, as to what you are saying is, earlier when you switch on the motorcycle, both the headlamp and the tail lamp turn on, but now the tail lamps work only on applying brakes. And from what I understand even your headlamps are turning on intermittently.

If this is what I am discerning from what you are trying to say, then I guess your problem is with the headlamp relay and or the wiring itself, check for loose adaptors, fuses and relay pins. If you still observe the issue then, you can get the defective part changed under warranty, considering you are under warranty. KTM India offers 2 years or 30000 KM standard warranty. If you're out of warranty then you have to pay for it, sadly.

But to get to the basics, check for any loose pins, connectors, the wiring basically and then proceed from there.

Keep us posted.

Cheers!
VJ

**s1d** · 05-06-2016, 01:02 AM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by ivan1985 View Post

Thanks for your reply my friend. Its 2014 model but it has not switch for the lights. Only big scale. Lights are on all day.
I think that if the tail lamp ( leds) are wrong it wouldn't work at all but as i mention earlier when i use the brake all the leds light on ( if i remember correct there are 12 leds) and when i release it all goes off. I was thinking that its a fuse or a problem with the relay because my front lamp also refuses to turn on sometimes...
My bike is 2 months old. if i need to replace all the tail lamp do i have to pay for it or its considered under warranty?

I forgot to mention that before some minutes i turned the key and the back light (all the leds) went on but when i started the engine it off again. that happened only once if that helps. normaly those 3 days when i turn the key nothing happens(tail lamp is off expept when i brake)

2014? 2 month old? did you buy it second hand ?
as i said, first you need to at least pull out the front bulb and put it back (try with another bulb if possible)
it could be a wiring problem (lose connections).. also try to pull out the fuses and put them back in.
IF your bike is under warranty, then it should be fixed for free including the tail lamp replacement if its found faulty. i suggest you take it to your dealer to check it further.

**plexus** · 05-06-2016, 06:01 AM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

How does a 2014 model have daytime running lights .mine is a Nov 2014 and I have no DRLs .bummer

**ivan1985** · 05-06-2016, 07:55 AM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Exacly as you mentioned.. i will try to unplug -plug the relay first. As for wiring... i am not familiar with these..it could be easier if a had something to follow like a manual but i don't and from what i've see its a chaos there

Yeap it's 2014 model. i bought it in greece new for 2990 euro and it has not switch for lights , only on left side a button for low high. i don't know why are those deferences.
Also i have the bike 2 months and ive been to service for fixes more than 5 times. ( leaks- leaks -leaks and now the lamps)
About the front headlamp problem i have it from the first 10 days.. but till yesterday they were refusing to fix it. their excuse was that the computer dont see a problem so unless it goes off ( he ment that the lamp no longer working) they cant help me. yesterday they agreed to order a relay to replace...
Thanks again for your answers. I am finding this forum very helpfull and i am really glad i joined you !

I would multyquote to make easier for you guys but i don't know how..

**s1d** · 05-07-2016, 12:47 AM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by plexus View Post

How does a 2014 model have daytime running lights .mine is a Nov 2014 and I have no DRLs .bummer

he is from greece.. there are minor variations between local vs export models to meet various regulations.

**plexus** · 05-07-2016, 07:06 AM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Ah ha that explains it .by the way got conked by cops for horns yesterday.

hahaha luckily no fines. Today I got to know that legal dB limit for horns are 85 dB and I think roots has a maximum rating of 115 dB.

**plexus** · 05-07-2016, 03:17 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

You are welcome Ivan we are glad that you joined.

**amarendra.ar23** · 05-07-2016, 07:37 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Guys is the rjays octane 2 very good? Or do I have something better in that range 10k?

**B7ACKTHORN** · 05-07-2016, 10:06 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by ivan1985 View Post

I would multyquote to make easier for you guys but i don't know how..

Ivan, multiquoting or single post quoting is pretty much easy. Below every post you have two buttons

REPLY WITH QUOTE and a Quote button with a Plus Symbol

If you want to quote my single post click on the REPLY WITH QUOTE below right to my post, and you can see my post quoted in and you can type your answers. If you want to quote two posts, you click on the Plus Symbol and you would see a tick meaning the post is now quoted, likewise click on as much as posts you want, tick them, and press reply with quote, now you have all those posts quoted, and you start answering.

Single post use REPLY WITH QUOTE beneath every post
Quoting more than one post, use the "QUOTE plus" button below every post.

Hope I didn't complicate it for you, pretty simple. If you require a tutorial, PM me.

Originally posted by amarendra.ar23 View Post

Guys is the rjays octane 2 very good? Or do I have something better in that range 10k?

Please post your gear queries here

Universal : Riding Gear Thread - xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/universal-threads/4791-universal-riding-gear-thread-576.html

The gold mine of all the topics which are frequently discussed..

You can get a comprehensive review of most gears and RJays are though costly are really good stuff, the Octane series.

Cheers!
VJ

**Yusha** · 05-09-2016, 02:22 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Guys, i'm planning to change the tyres of my Duke 200. I crashed recently while braking hard to avoid an auto. There was no feedback from the front tyre and it just folded under the brakes and I was down on the road. This has happened twice. Admittedly I could have braked in a more progressive manner and avoided the fall but i had no idea that the front had locked. I had no time to react. This problem is compounded by the front brake of the Duke which does not provide enough feedback and it feels wooden to me.

Anyone else thinks the same? My previous bike was a RD and a RX-135 and both bike had drum brakes with tons of feedback. I rarely locked the front then. I started riding again last year after a gap of 9 years and I cannot get used to the Dukes front brake. I have another bad habit of using only the front brake and the rear is mostly used during rains or jams. I have started using both brakes simultaneously now.

Anyone modified the Duke front brake for better results?

Rant over.

I have no confidence in the front MRF tyre now. What do you guys suggest? I can choose from Metzelers, Michelin and Pirelli. Metz are overkill, Michelin does not have a 150 rear and that leaves Pirelli Sport Demons. Any advice?

Should I only change the front and keep the rear?

**Srvn** · 05-09-2016, 03:14 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by Yusha View Post

Guys, i'm planning to change the tyres of my Duke 200. I crashed recently while braking hard to avoid an auto. There was no feedback from the front tyre and it just folded under the brakes and I was down on the road. This has happened twice. Admittedly I could have braked in a more progressive manner and avoided the fall but i had no idea that the front had locked. I had no time to react. This problem is compounded by the front brake of the Duke which does not provide enough feedback and it feels wooden to me.

Anyone else thinks the same? My previous bike was a RD and a RX-135 and both bike had drum brakes with tons of feedback. I rarely locked the front then. I started riding again last year after a gap of 9 years and I cannot get used to the Dukes front brake. I have another bad habit of using only the front brake and the rear is mostly used during rains or jams. I have started using both brakes simultaneously now.

Anyone modified the Duke front brake for better results?

Rant over.

I have no confidence in the front MRF tyre now. What do you guys suggest? I can choose from Metzelers, Michelin and Pirelli. Metz are overkill, Michelin does not have a 150 rear and that leaves Pirelli Sport Demons. Any advice?

Should I only change the front and keep the rear?

Michelin pilot street radials are available in exact profile that comes stock with RCs and Dukes 150/60 and 110/70.

**s1d** · 05-09-2016, 03:58 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by Yusha View Post

There was no feedback from the front tyre and it just folded under the brakes and I was down on the road. This has happened twice. Admittedly I could have braked in a more progressive manner and avoided the fall but i had no idea that the front had locked. I had no time to react. This problem is compounded by the front brake of the Duke which does not provide enough feedback and it feels wooden to me.

I have no confidence in the front MRF tyre now. What do you guys suggest? I can choose from Metzelers, Michelin and Pirelli. Metz are overkill, Michelin does not have a 150 rear and that leaves Pirelli Sport Demons. Any advice?

Should I only change the front and keep the rear?

You should build your confidence first before blaming the tires.
The front mrf and disc combo on the d200 is IMO VERY good. Only practice will help you get adjusted and improve your braking skills.
I can understand the rear feeling a little 'wooden' especially during the initial couple of 1000km, but the front is spot on from day 1, i say this because i've replaced the front rotor & pads twice, and hence experienced the 'new' feeling thrice (once when bike was new, and the two replacements)
Maybe am in love with the front brakes that i use them a lot and end up warping the rotors

Also pull the pads out and sand them down with sand paper and clean your rotor with some dish wash soap water. Some times dirt build up can cause sub optimal brake performance. I suggest sanding the pads at every service and cleaning the rotor every week.

A change of tire is not going to help you prevent lockup's (understand that this motorcycle does not have abs here in india).
one must also understand that the 390 comes with abs, so its not just the metz helping, but the abs that prevents lockups. So simply switching to say metz (or any other tire) will not help you in braking.

**plexus** · 05-09-2016, 04:10 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by s1d View Post

You should build your confidence first before blaming the tires.
The front mrf and disc combo on the d200 is IMO VERY good. Only practice will help you get adjusted and improve your braking skills.
I can understand the rear feeling a little 'wooden' especially during the initial couple of 1000km, but the front is spot on from day 1, i say this because i've replaced the front rotor & pads twice, and hence experienced the 'new' feeling thrice (once when bike was new, and the two replacements)
Maybe am in love with the front brakes that i use them a lot and end up warping the rotors

Also pull the pads out and sand them down with sand paper and clean your rotor with some dish wash soap water. Some times dirt build up can cause sub optimal brake performance. I suggest sanding the pads at every service and cleaning the rotor every week.

A change of tire is not going to help you prevent lockup's (understand that this motorcycle does not have abs here in india).
one must also understand that the 390 comes with abs, so its not just the metz helping, but the abs that prevents lockups. So simply switching to say metz (or any other tire) will not help you in braking.

True that, I still remember when I took delivery of my duke and while coming back home I ended up locking up the front thrice.

Just slowly adapt .it takes time but practice on empty roads and in no time you will get the knack of it.

**Yusha** · 05-09-2016, 04:24 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by s1d View Post

You should build your confidence first before blaming the tires.
The front mrf and disc combo on the d200 is IMO VERY good. Only practice will help you get adjusted and improve your braking skills.
I can understand the rear feeling a little 'wooden' especially during the initial couple of 1000km, but the front is spot on from day 1, i say this because i've replaced the front rotor & pads twice, and hence experienced the 'new' feeling thrice (once when bike was new, and the two replacements)
Maybe am in love with the front brakes that i use them a lot and end up warping the rotors

Also pull the pads out and sand them down with sand paper and clean your rotor with some dish wash soap water. Some times dirt build up can cause sub optimal brake performance. I suggest sanding the pads at every service and cleaning the rotor every week.

A change of tire is not going to help you prevent lockup's (understand that this motorcycle does not have abs here in india).
one must also understand that the 390 comes with abs, so its not just the metz helping, but the abs that prevents lockups. So simply switching to say metz (or any other tire) will not help you in braking.

Thanks for the advice. I will try and build confidence but I know its going to be difficult as its happened twice already. Its very difficult for me as I do not sense any feedback from the front brake. There is no progression but it is not on and off also. I will take your advice and practice. Lets see what happens. My issue is that the front tyre locks or loses grip too soon. That's why I was looking to change the tyre.

**kmishra** · 05-09-2016, 04:38 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Hi Guys,

Please suggest

Friday Morning when i start my Bike it refuses, Only the crank sound from starter was coming, Later after multiple attempts it finally started but was turning off.
and when again attempted to start it took around 5Sec of self to start up and the same happened again it was turning off.

Some how managed to keep it on by raising the Throttle, Thinking its acceleration issue took it to SVC or Bangalore (Marathalli).

As it was due for 1st payed service asked the SVC Guy to service it and also to look into the issue, They said it will be taken care by evening.
And yes when i was on my way to SVC the bike felt as if i was riding a Spleendar, Their was no power post 4000RMP basically bike was not going beyond 40KMP

SVC first said its Fuel Pump issue - Pressure seems to be ok by Pump
Later they said it's clutch plate issue - Later they said Clutch plate is ok
Now form 2 Days they keep saying we are checking the Enign step wise and trying to sort the issue.

Please suggest if anyone of you have came across such things and what can be the resolution

current Bike status 22k KMP 14Months On Road

Now when called SVC on Monday they say we done have a Fuel hose seems to be the issue as it is not passing/Sprinkling as they say it to engine. the New time of bike delivery requested by SVC is for wednesday

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