Re: KTM 200 Duke

Hi Srvn,
I would like to service my bike at home can you please guide me as this is my first time doing it.. What are all the consumables needed
What are all the tasks that needs to be done etc..

Thanks in advance

Re: KTM 200 Duke

How many services has your bike received and have you been along with your bike while it was serviced?

Let me tell you how I have started doing basic work on my bike, firstly I do not have any mechanical background neither was I been driving two wheeler extensively. I got promoted myself from a suzuki max 100 bike to a 200D in just under 2 months of learning geared motorbike and I was able to do so only because I spent a lot of time (literally lots and still continue to do so) reading xbhp, team bhp forums, various online articles, watch various videos and so on and I was really passionate about it, so could spend loads of time. It was difficult but I had it in me to really control the twist of my wrist and was able to learn to control my new beast though I had a few small/minor falls on a few occasions but nothing major than that (touchwood). As many say here in xbhp, folks can get a new bigger capacity bikes to begin with without much prior experience with smaller capacity provided they have the patience in them and are cautious about how they learn to control and live with and progress with it.

I said the above because I do the same for working on my bike as well, as it was my first bike, it was brought on my own money (ofc loaned) and newly found passion for motorcycles had all made me read, read and read a lot to get to know more about the motorcycle better.

I chose auto service banashankari from the very first service though it was good 10kms from my home as a few of our fellow xbhp dukers had said it was one of the best places to get ktm, kawa and bajaj bikes to service back in 2013. From first service onwards I used to book an appointment for the service and inform them that I would be along with the bike throughout and they never objected. Slowly I was begining to observe what the mech was doing to my bike and used to have a lot of conversation with the mech while he was working on it, building a good rapport with the mech helps you (non mechanical guys) understand the bike many many times better than just theoritical articles/videos. And also in purchsaing spare parts at a later stage when you feel you are ready to work on your bike.


My suggestion would be:
1. Start by choosing a good svc (closer to home is better though distance should not be something thats stops you) and build a good rapport with them and then try to stay with bike while it is serviced and observe what he does and have conversation with him about your questions (just make sure you do not disturb him while he works) . Give tips to him, if you feel he did some good job.

2. Do your home work (nothing beats this) and read online articles/watch videos about whatever strikes to your mind about your motorcycle (any motorcycle articles will just do fine, because almost all bikes has same ways of working) and learn about it (helps feed the biker's hunger in you).

3. Investing in a decent paddock stand and on a good toolkit set is a must (will set you back by 2k approx for paddock stand and 1.5k on tolkit) and may require additional few tools which may be absent in toolkit set and may be required, say 22mm ring spanner for axle nut, 8mm and 10mm ring spanner for brake bleed screws and so on.

Let me warn you here, DO NOT engage in working on any major components like brakes, adjusting chain slackness and so on, as they may be very dangerous if done incorrectly. Take your time to learn, do not hurry and when you are sure of what you are doing then with caution do it with care and double check everything you have done.

And finally interest, passion and lots of time in learning is what is really required along with money to invest in tools.

P.S: sorry for the very long post.

Thanks,
Srvn

Re: KTM 200 Duke

As [MENTION=60363]Srvn[/MENTION] has pointed out, the best way to get an understanding is by watching the folks at the svc.. especially to learn how to remove and put back stuff.
Also download a copy of the workshop manual and keep it handy.

For a regular service, the stuff they replace is all 3 filters, engine oil, checking free play of the levers, chain adjustment and wash. The charges for the same IMO are on the higher side. I don't buy the premium bike bull***. You can do most of these yourself with a basic socket set tool kit.
You can slowly graduate to other things like chain adjustment, brake bleeding/caliper greasing etc..
Even though i can do most of these myself and save a few bucks, i visit the svc just to keep the warranty intact and hang around and try to get work done to my satisfaction.. with a little nagging and friendly banter i get them to do a wee bit more work compared to what they would do if one left the bike and went away. This gives me a chance to observe and learn.

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Heya guys... im a newbie who got promoted from a scooter to a d200 just one month back. As an inexperience rider i am really facing troubles while braking..most of the times my back tyres are slipping when i try to apply sudden brakes from 60 r 70kmph.. cuz of this i am really panick at every breaking situations .. .can you guys give me some tips regarding the braking?
I think im depnding too much on rear brakes... though using the front brakes too..
sorry for the terrible english!

Re: KTM 200 Duke

on dry roads you should use the front brake 80% (sometimes 100% at slower speeds) and the rear just 20%
don't simply grab the brakes, which will result in the wheels locking and the bike skidding.. but gradually apply pressure (or quickly pump n release - requires practice). only practice will make you perfect. the front brakes on the ktm's are awesome and should serve you most of the time (except in the wet n sandy roads where you need use a bit more of the rear)
only practice will make you perfect.. so take the bike out on early mornings and practice braking on an empty stretch.

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Hi all
3 days ago my back light stopped working. Back leds (all of them) are working only when i press the brakes but when i release it all leds going off. Is any of you familiar with this problem? Also my front light take 1 second to come on when i start the bike and sometimes (1/10) wont open at all so i stop the bike and start again. Bike has 1400 km

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Guys I finally wired up the wind tone horn with the following schematic. Now the issue is to fool cops I also need to keep the stock (scooty pep) horn. I went ahead and bought a three way toggle switch. Can any of you help me with where to add the switch so that I can flick between wind tone and stock horn. Cheers

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Hey guys I have been facing issue with the radiator fan, for the past couple of days I see the temp gauge is reaching the 'H' mark and I did not feel the fan kicking in either when the temp was reaching the 'H' mark. And this happens only in the night time on my way back home and not in the day time on my way to office.

I called my mech next morning, he asked me to rotate the fan manually with a stick or something and see if there was any resistance / obstruction to rotation. In the off state, I tried, and it rotated fine, except there was a slight (very slight) resistance felt at the end of rotation (while it was going to stop) and found nothing obstructing the fan to my naked eyes.

Last night specifically, when I saw the temp gauge inching towards (one bar below 'H' mark) I tried rotating the fan with my fingers and boom!, the fan started spinning and ran a little while longer than usual and brought down the temp and usual, from then it worked fine for the rest of the trip back home. Today morning fan works as usual and I need to see what happens in the trip this night back home.

He's asked me to come tomorrow to diagnose. So guys, please help me as to what I must be looking for, and any pointers will be appreciated.

Thanks,
Srvn

Re: KTM 200 Duke

the fan's motor is probably toast, its better you get the fan replaced.

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Its looks like you may have to replace the rear tail lamp unit. There are two 'parts' of the led's, one that stays on when you switch on the light switch and the second which comes on when you use the brakes.
do you have the 2016 model with day time running light i.e. no headlight switch ?
For the older models, if you keep the headlight switch on and start the bike, it takes a second for the light to come on once the bike is started (looks more of a safety feature to minimize battery current draw/drain during start). that's perfectly normal.
also if the light is behaving crazy at times, i suggest you get the switch gear opened and cleaned and spray a bit of wd40 inside. you might also want to remove the headlight and re-plug the bulb and connectors.. could be lose contact.

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Dhadka start of the fan almost usually means the fan's about to give up. As suggested, getting the fan replaced is the solution, the sooner the better. @s1d, there ain't no bearings in motorcycle radiator fans, DC brushed/brushless motors, unless we are talking about ceiling fans that is. Let's not confuse him, Let's keep it simple.

Cheers!
VJ

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Wouldn't the svc just replace the fan it under warranty?
Cause as far as I know there are no fixes for a dc brushless fan.

Re: KTM 200 Duke

my bad, i was thinking something else.. post edited. and ceiling fans, there is one at home that needs bearing replacement

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Yup, replacement is the way to go, no repairing, no nothing. It goes, you replace.

Cheers!
VJ

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Thanks for input fellas... :-) When I described the issue in detail even the mech at first said that the fans motor is faulty and needs to be replaced, and when I questioned him about temp sensor and/or thermo stat he assured that he'll be doing a thorough diagnosis and check the state of these as well just for my assurance. Will keep you guys posted.

Plexus, no warranty mate it is a 3.4 years old bike now...

Re: KTM 200 Duke


Thanks for your reply my friend. Its 2014 model but it has not switch for the lights. Only big scale. Lights are on all day.
I think that if the tail lamp ( leds) are wrong it wouldn't work at all but as i mention earlier when i use the brake all the leds light on ( if i remember correct there are 12 leds) and when i release it all goes off. I was thinking that its a fuse or a problem with the relay because my front lamp also refuses to turn on sometimes...
My bike is 2 months old. if i need to replace all the tail lamp do i have to pay for it or its considered under warranty?

I forgot to mention that before some minutes i turned the key and the back light (all the leds) went on but when i started the engine it off again. that happened only once if that helps. normaly those 3 days when i turn the key nothing happens(tail lamp is off expept when i brake)