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  • Re: 23456Kms and still going extremly strong

    Originally posted by famishedrider View Post
    Does the transmission get smoother over time? I've only had my D200 for 2 months 7.3K Kms on ODO. - Not much but if your chain has been tightened well then it will be a bit smooth.Not much that you will feel though as time passes by.

    The lower gears feel jumpy with engine braking being aggressive and shift from 2nd gear to 3rd is a bit jerky, have you observed it?-I absolutely love the engine breaking of the bike.I hardly use the rear brake.So easy to spin the rear wheel.After some days if you are someone who likes to use engine brake there is hardly any bike of this class who has such a good engine breaking.es specially from 1st to 2nd or 3rd its a bit clunky.But then if the chain is well set then its pretty less

    How's the mileage after 24K kms? - When i full tank till brim,in city i can see that it hits reserve at almost 295 to 300Kms,sometimes 310 if i shift at 5K rpm.I generally shift at 7K ropm from 2nd gear onwards.I remember once i was going from Bangalore to Coorg and i could see it hit the reserve at 359Kms.Was driving under 80Kmph.I have seen no increase or decrease in Mileage.

    Does the bike loose the gunning pull after a while or does it still sprint like a beast? - A little,the initial punch is tad lost but what happens is that it smoothens and then the power delivery is pretty seamless and after 7K RPM it just pulls you and flies....

    I have observed moisture settling under the console covering, it generally goes away in a day but its troubling to see a rainbow spectrum of colors after it fades away. Contacted service center guys about this and was told that this doesn't come under warranty.-Yes i also noticed the same.Its common in every duke.Its more visible in direct sunlight,

    Sorry for long Q&A session, but really curious to find out more about these things.-Ah chill no worries.Always happy to help:-)

    Cheerio!
    -Cheers

    All the answers are in bold

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    • Re: 23456Kms and still going extremly strong

      Originally posted by xplod566 View Post
      -Cheers

      All the answers are in bold
      Thanks for all the answers.

      The engine braking of this bike is my 2nd favorite feature beside the gunning pull. It really makes your right foot to stay away from the brake pedal. Cornering is pretty sweet and much easier compared to all the other bikes of this class. The MRFs do a pretty good job and provide a strong grip.

      Cheerio mate!

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      • Re: 23456Kms and still going extremly strong

        Originally posted by famishedrider View Post
        Thanks for all the answers.

        The engine braking of this bike is my 2nd favorite feature beside the gunning pull. It really makes your right foot to stay away from the brake pedal. Cornering is pretty sweet and much easier compared to all the other bikes of this class. The MRFs do a pretty good job and provide a strong grip.

        Cheerio mate!
        +1 for that.I ma in love with the Engine breaking :-)

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        • Re: 23456Kms and still going extremly strong

          Originally posted by xplod566 View Post
          +1 for that.I ma in love with the Engine breaking :-)
          Where were you so long? [emoji14]

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          • Re: 23456Kms and still going extremly strong

            Originally posted by leech View Post
            Where were you so long? [emoji14]
            I was away for some time.Changed company and then got a bit busy with life,have been visiting new places with my Duke .How are you.yeah it's been really long.missed by xbhp family :-)

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            • Re: KTM 200 Duke

              @s1d @B7ACKTHORN i am gonna go for service tomorrow.THis is my 1st paid service.Should i ask for anything specific.Only issue i am facing is the Bad vibes from the ledt side after 6000 RPM.
              Also how about Valve clearance.I heard it should be done every 10,000Kms.ODO is 25000 Kms approx
              Last edited by xplod566; 03-31-2017, 04:03 AM.

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              • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                Originally posted by xplod566 View Post
                @s1d @B7ACKTHORN i am gonna go for service tomorrow.THis is my 1st paid service.Should i ask for anything specific.Only issue i am facing is the Bad vibes from the ledt side after 6000 RPM.
                Also how about Valve clearance.I heard it should be done every 10,000Kms.ODO is 25000 Kms approx
                Just follow the book, nothing special unless you have any specific issues. Connect diag tool and check if any errors present (fix as needed)
                Change all the filters (now comes in a single box as a periodic service kit), replace spark plug if it's older than 13k km. The usual oil change, check brake pad wear, coolant level, adjust free play at the clutch/throttle, water wash, clean/lube chain(remove the plastic cover over front sprocket and clean).
                Summer is already here.. so if its been close to two years with the bike, you might as well get the coolant drained completely, flushed with water, and refilled with fresh coolant.

                Finally again connect diag tool again, check for any errors.. ask them to clear the dtc (or as they call it memory). After clearing the dtc, start the bike and just let it idle for 10 minutes on the paddock stand. Don't touch throttle, because after we clear the dtc the idle will be a little erratic and the bike will at times shut down when you engage gear and release the clutch lever. So letting it idle for 10 minutes will let the ecu relearn otherwise if you are in a hurry you can skip the idling but remember at times (like closing throttle during riding or moving from stand still) the bike will sputter/shut down and will be ok after around 10 ~ 15 minutes of riding (you essentially have to keep the throttle open i.e. higher rpms to minimize this behavior)
                Don't touch the valve clearances if they is no tappet noise or cold starting issues, i haven't touched it and my bike is now at 28k km.
                Last edited by s1d; 03-31-2017, 03:34 PM.

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                • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                  Originally posted by xplod566 View Post
                  @s1d @B7ACKTHORN i am gonna go for service tomorrow.THis is my 1st paid service.Should i ask for anything specific.Only issue i am facing is the Bad vibes from the ledt side after 6000 RPM.
                  Also how about Valve clearance.I heard it should be done every 10,000Kms.ODO is 25000 Kms approx
                  Do mention the vibes you're facing or issues you're facing in the job card. Usually first service is a general check up, oil change, service kit change and basically it's the easy part of the service, as long as there aren't any significant problem with the bike. Valve clearances aren't necessarily required to be done, but in case if there are any unnatural noises or excess ticking sound during the service period, it's imperative to get it checked.

                  Cheers!
                  VJ
                  Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                  The girl said, 'NO!'


                  And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                  THE END

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                  • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                    Originally posted by jackofsome View Post
                    How many kms have you clocked yet on your 200? Asking coz a daily drive of 100 kms. Would love to read about long term reliability aftr 40k.
                    I am at 35k right now. Bike is very intimidating at times. Pretty happy with the bike, though I bought it at 12k odo in jan '16. Not much of niggles except for stator coil. I feel it's the most vfm for daily commute, less maintenance and I'm getting a mileage of around 32kmpl with 30-40% ride in traffic. Pretty satisfied with it. Will share a detailed post once I get time.
                    Originally posted by leech View Post
                    Is there a possibility that your bike is running low on engine oil, thus causing the stator coil to burn out? How often do you check the level?

                    Reason is asked is the main cause for stator coil failure is heat, or overheating of the engine. If engine oil level is low, or low quality, it may cause the premature failure of the coil.
                    Ok so I toped-up oil but it's not gonna help this time because stator is already bad. I'm wondering RR could be the issue but I got it checked last time when I changed the stator outside warranty to be double sure. I'm planning to going to a diff SVC tomorrow but these guys have lot of tantrums on appointment, etc. Will ask them to sort this out but I'm pretty sure they will not have any answer. My existing SVC is good but they have too much of load, my handle is bent even after I changed to a new one and they are still not able to find the problem even after working on it for 3 times.

                    Anyways, will update here on what they have to say.

                    Edit: I use only motul, and do periodic servicing. I do check oil quality once in a fortnight as I clean/lube the chain. Since I ride so much I follow regular inspection of these basic stuff. But can not over rule your point too.
                    Last edited by kundalus; 04-01-2017, 02:43 AM.

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                    • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                      Currently at Indiranagar SVC,Bangalore.Have mentioned the small issues I am facing.Will update you all with the details.Bike is 13 months old,25080Kms,1st paid service.

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                      • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                        Originally posted by kundalus View Post
                        Ok so I toped-up oil but it's not gonna help this time because stator is already bad. I'm wondering RR could be the issue but I got it checked last time when I changed the stator outside warranty to be double sure. I'm planning to going to a diff SVC tomorrow but these guys have lot of tantrums on appointment, etc. Will ask them to sort this out but I'm pretty sure they will not have any answer. My existing SVC is good but they have too much of load, my handle is bent even after I changed to a new one and they are still not able to find the problem even after working on it for 3 times.

                        Anyways, will update here on what they have to say.

                        Edit: I use only motul, and do periodic servicing. I do check oil quality once in a fortnight as I clean/lube the chain. Since I ride so much I follow regular inspection of these basic stuff. But can not over rule your point too.
                        Well, they ought to find the root cause of the frequent failure of the stator coil. It definitely is not normal. There might be a wiring issue somewhere that could be causing the stator to fail prematurely or maybe the oil flow to the stator coil is not proper i.e. oil passage/nozzle 6 (check out pg.19 https://www.dropbox.com/s/d4ld3kqno9...SSM_902_EN.pdf)
                        This time ensure you mention the same in the job card (that it has failed X no. of times and still not fixed permanently) when you sign on it during delivery (And keep a copy of it). I would have definitely had them replace it for free if it's happening so frequently! Shoot an email to ktm/bajaj with proof of such frequent replacements.

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                        • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                          Originally posted by xplod566 View Post
                          Currently at Indiranagar SVC,Bangalore.Have mentioned the small issues I am facing.Will update you all with the details.Bike is 13 months old,25080Kms,1st paid service.
                          [MENTION=16602]s1d[/MENTION] [MENTION=39214]B7ACKTHORN[/MENTION]
                          To my shocking discovery I could only find around 400 ML of Engine Oil. Also no error for oil pressure in console .I am confused where did the 1 litres of Engine oil go!!
                          Any guesses of what kind of Engine Wear and Tear are we looking at !!!
                          Last edited by xplod566; 04-01-2017, 02:45 PM.

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                          • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                            Originally posted by s1d View Post
                            Well, they ought to find the root cause of the frequent failure of the stator coil. It definitely is not normal. There might be a wiring issue somewhere that could be causing the stator to fail prematurely or maybe the oil flow to the stator coil is not proper i.e. oil passage/nozzle 6 (check out pg.19 https://www.dropbox.com/s/d4ld3kqno9...SSM_902_EN.pdf)
                            This time ensure you mention the same in the job card (that it has failed X no. of times and still not fixed permanently) when you sign on it during delivery (And keep a copy of it). I would have definitely had them replace it for free if it's happening so frequently! Shoot an email to ktm/bajaj with proof of such frequent replacements.
                            Unfortunately I'm done with the replacement and also did a cover replacement this time. They said KTM has made some changes in the new cover which has a valve which sprinkles oil on the stator coil. I will definitely write a mail to KTM now. Stator + cover costed 2.3k.

                            Here are pics. The new one has a pump kind of thing in the centre.

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                            • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                              So it's a faulty design of the stator coil cover that causes it to fail prematurely. I guess the company decided to act after receiving lots of complaints from the customers. All of the auto majors are like this only. Make the vehicle with the cheapest parts, then upgrade the quality after receiving customer feedback. End of day, the customer is being taken for a ride.

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                              • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                                Originally posted by leech View Post
                                So it's a faulty design of the stator coil cover that causes it to fail prematurely. I guess the company decided to act after receiving lots of complaints from the customers. All of the auto majors are like this only. Make the vehicle with the cheapest parts, then upgrade the quality after receiving customer feedback. End of day, the customer is being taken for a ride.
                                You surely spoke my mind. But I will surely do whatever I can to bring it out to KTM that I ended up spending money on their design fault and they acted really late on it.

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