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  • Yes, finally!!
    After a long tortuous wait of over a year looking for a fairly priced bike with ample power, I initially was planning for the Hyosung, Ninja 650 or Duc 795. But what I needed at the moment was a day-to-day motorcycle to get around town. The larger cousins would have to wait while I get my wings on the younger sibling. I finally made up my mind and booked the Duke on the 8th. Got mine on the evening of 14th after a wait of around a week. Was excited to the point of forgetfulness. Sounds great, rides great. Vibrates a fair bit. Seating position was a bit uncomfortable for me for the initial 20 or so kms, since I rode a Apache before this. Took out for a night ride in the city yesterday and the meter showed a fuel mileage of 50 kmpl. I was like . Pulls from any gear and I often have to look down to see which gear I am in. Sounds great when you are sitting on it. I inadvertently took it to 70kmph in sixth gear, really hard to keep a tab on the speed because of the great engine. God! how many times have I used "great" in this post.
    Anyway, I bought it because of the "great" quality, power-to-weight ratio and torque. Feels solid on the road.
    Attracts too much attention, people asking question any time I stop. On the afore-mentioned night ride, I had a couple of teenage boys on an Activa trying to get me to race, pulling ahead and slowing down right in front of me and doing it again. They probably got more annoyed than me, because of my disinterested attitude (remember the fable about the elephant and the dog...hehe).

    Hard to even get information about powerparts.
    Turning radius is quite large during U-turns and even when manoveouring the bike in the parking.
    I bought it more as a long-term workhorse and training bike for me for, I hope, soon-to-come bigger bikes in my stable.

    I am out....

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    • Hi Guys,
      Finally got my duke one week back ,done some 500 odd kms ,been great so far.Facing couple of niggles though:-
      1) The gear shift which is other wise smooth but refuses to downshift from 6th once in a while.
      2) The MFD has moisture in it ,fogs up completely at times ,went to the SVC.They have no issue changing it but the head manager said there are chances that the new one which would be fit can also develop the same issue ,he suggested to wait for a month or so as the company is looking in to this issue and hopefully the new display wouldnt have this problem ,Should I go for the replacement right away or should I wait?

      Regards,
      Amit.

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      • Originally posted by krish2778 View Post
        DOT3 is a clear liquid, DOT4 is red in color.
        Check which is in your bike, both can be used. So doesnt really matter though.

        Cheers
        Ride Safe
        krishna
        Isn't that the other way around ?
        My life in two wheels !

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        • The Ghost Duke arriving soon...lots of plans for for making an unbeatable pocket rocket, will start a new thread once ready
          http://www.facebook.com/sameer.venugopalan
          www.youtube.com/killer

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          • Originally posted by Navaroj View Post
            Below is a link for Tankpads from UK.I've been using pads from this site for my CBR & DUKE.The quality,fit and finish is awesome.We would get delivery within 2 weeks.

            Official Motografix - Accept no imitations

            P.S.The Street style tank pad fits the DUKE.
            Thanks but the price is too high, i.e. nearing 1700, and i am looking for a tank pad under 600

            Originally posted by vidy View Post
            When we change the suspension setting ,doesn't it actually changes preload (stiffens/compressing spring by an amount)? there by the spring now can only move to less distance when its compressed completely ? isn't that effects total travel ?

            geeks, shed some light ..

            it does not change the amount of travel just the rebound stiffness, and stiffness in general thus it does prevent bottoming out under the similar load condition but naturally still with far higher weight you can still bottom out shocks at hardest setting .

            its incorrect , throttle should be responsive in entire rev range. imagine a road with full of slippery mud/oil with on/off throttle at low rpms.


            hmm it should be but somehow dukes Fi which is Bosch unit is snatchy at rpm below 2500, it does not mean that it is characteristic of all short stroke motors but in case in of Duke Ktm has tried to do the "impossible" , i.e. good torque from down low rpms and still a high revving motor which to me does not seems to be out of breath at even 10500 rpm. My observation is if duke had taller gears etc and rev limit at 12000 rpm the motor in itself is capable of reaching 155-160.

            This feat of doing impossible may have a recuperation in form of the uneven response from motor at low rpm, though again the snatchiness is largely due to FI . Also a light crankshaft also aid in the feel of snatchiness



            short stroke nothing has to do with it,


            'snatchy' or 'jerky' throttle is an artifact of early Fuel Injection systems. In its orignal and true incarnation it was impossible to get the fuelling right, no matter how sensitive you were on the throttle. Simply put, the 'smallest amount' the fuel injection could squirt in was too much, and produced a horrible on/off effect when riding at slow speeds/low RPMs.


            from adv rider for more ..990 Adv "snatchy throttle' solutions - an essay - ADVrider
            Originally posted by Saru_24 View Post
            Appreciate your work !!! This one seems as a essential on our dirty roads
            will find out and update if come across this.
            can some one come out witha DIY to make these at home and how important these are, ie. how much they aid the life the "service" life of shocks.

            Originally posted by joshzma225 View Post
            It really sould not be an issue as most of the braking almost 70% is taken care of by the front disc brakes so go ahead and make your journey to the SVC center you'll be just fine. Yes a lot of us are finding the rear disc brake a tad on the lighter side when compared to the bite of the front disc brakes.
            yes, i have tried that if the road is not too slippery and muddy then front brake is enough , also i believe jsut to change the rear pad you can also go to a bajaj service centre.

            Originally posted by adheep View Post
            Hi Krish, in Madurai KTM showroom is under construction and when I inquired the neighboring Bajaj guys, they said it'll be opened in a month or so..

            So may be I'll wait for a month and get my first service done here or will take my Duke to Chennai(450) for first service alone..
            Last edited by maverick1; 08-16-2012, 12:21 PM.

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            • Hi Guys, I am heading out for chandigarh on the 18th. Wanted to check if the KTM SVC there is well stocked? Ill be needing cables, clutch lever, brake lever?


              My offerings to the gods of speed -

              - KTM Duke 200
              - Yamaha RXZ 5 speed


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              • Originally posted by Killer View Post
                The Ghost Duke arriving soon...lots of plans for for making an unbeatable pocket rocket, will start a new thread once ready
                So, That total black duke with orange trellis spotted at Bangalore SVC was yours?

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                • Originally posted by incognito View Post
                  Hi Guys,
                  Finally got my duke one week back ,done some 500 odd kms ,been great so far.Facing couple of niggles though:-
                  1) The gear shift which is other wise smooth but refuses to downshift from 6th once in a while.
                  2) The MFD has moisture in it ,fogs up completely at times ,went to the SVC.They have no issue changing it but the head manager said there are chances that the new one which would be fit can also develop the same issue ,he suggested to wait for a month or so as the company is looking in to this issue and hopefully the new display wouldnt have this problem ,Should I go for the replacement right away or should I wait?

                  Regards,
                  Amit.
                  Oh thank you thank you thank you!!! I just spotted that after coming back from the Ghatkopar svc..so they say they can replace the entire MFD huh? That's good news then! I'll wait for a month and then ask for a replacement from them. Thanks for posting that bud!!!

                  BTW did they mean they would just replace the glass of the MFD or the entire Unit???
                  Last edited by joshzma225; 08-16-2012, 03:40 PM.
                  Speed, it seems to me, provides the one genuinely modern pleasure.

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                  • Originally posted by joshzma225 View Post
                    Oh thank you thank you thank you!!! I just spotted that after coming back from the Ghatkopar svc..so they say they can replace the entire MFD huh? That's good news then! I'll wait for a month and then ask for a replacement from them. Thanks for posting that bud!!!

                    BTW did they mean they would just replace the glass of the MFD or the entire Unit???
                    Hi Buddy,
                    I am not entirely sure what is that they plan to replace ,the entire unit or just the glass .Incidently I went to Ghatkopar SVC only of Shreeram Bajaj(bombay Ind Estate),the guy with whom I spoke to is a chap called Mayank .Regarding the time frame ,1 month roughly is what he quoted.I am in double mind myself as to should I wait or just give it a shot with the replacement which they are offering now ,the reason being not all Dukes are facing the same issue.What do you think?

                    Regards,
                    Amit.

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                    • Originally posted by rish2050 View Post
                      So, That total black duke with orange trellis spotted at Bangalore SVC was yours?
                      Nope...mine looks regular for now, havent started working yet
                      http://www.facebook.com/sameer.venugopalan
                      www.youtube.com/killer

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                      • Originally posted by rish2050 View Post
                        So, That total black duke with orange trellis spotted at Bangalore SVC was yours?
                        That bike belongs to a friend of mine. The mod is being carried out by my brother at his shop.. You mean the one with the chopped tail right?
                        Live to ride.. ride to forget..


                        Ignorance is an excuse, stupidity isn't

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                        • Originally posted by incognito View Post
                          Hi Buddy,
                          I am not entirely sure what is that they plan to replace ,the entire unit or just the glass .Incidently I went to Ghatkopar SVC only of Shreeram Bajaj(bombay Ind Estate),the guy with whom I spoke to is a chap called Mayank .Regarding the time frame ,1 month roughly is what he quoted.I am in double mind myself as to should I wait or just give it a shot with the replacement which they are offering now ,the reason being not all Dukes are facing the same issue.What do you think?

                          Regards,
                          Amit.
                          I think it'd be best to wait till the rains are over and then go in for the replacement that they say is going to be an improved version of this MFD...

                          BTW it turns out that the reason my starter isn't functioning is the result of a short circuit in the relay (Medium Sized white plastic Plug ) located at the LHS of your airbox. The KTM mechanic Salim who came all the way from KTM Sai Service in Lower Parel to Bandra where the bike was found out the problem in no time and asked me to visit the SVC tomorrow first thing in the morning to get this replaced asap. I'm assuming it'll be under warranty.
                          Speed, it seems to me, provides the one genuinely modern pleasure.

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                          • Originally posted by NiXTriX View Post
                            That bike belongs to a friend of mine. The mod is being carried out by my brother at his shop.. You mean the one with the chopped tail right?
                            Well it sounds interesting! Could you probably post any pics of that bike?
                            Last edited by joshzma225; 08-16-2012, 07:05 PM.
                            Speed, it seems to me, provides the one genuinely modern pleasure.

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                            • Originally posted by incognito View Post
                              Hi Buddy,
                              I am not entirely sure what is that they plan to replace ,the entire unit or just the glass .Incidently I went to Ghatkopar SVC only of Shreeram Bajaj(bombay Ind Estate),the guy with whom I spoke to is a chap called Mayank .Regarding the time frame ,1 month roughly is what he quoted.I am in double mind myself as to should I wait or just give it a shot with the replacement which they are offering now ,the reason being not all Dukes are facing the same issue.What do you think?

                              Regards,
                              Amit.
                              i have showed the same to the svc and they told that i will be getting a new mfd console ..
                              also new indicators for water inside them .. they told that it might cause short circuit so better to replace it ..

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                              • Originally posted by Killer View Post
                                Nope...mine looks regular for now, havent started working yet
                                My bad, I misinterpreted "Ghost" Duke.

                                Originally posted by NiXTriX View Post
                                That bike belongs to a friend of mine. The mod is being carried out by my brother at his shop.. You mean the one with the chopped tail right?
                                Yeah, that's the one I was talking about.

                                Originally posted by joshzma225 View Post
                                Well it sounds interesting! Could you probably post any pics of that bike?
                                There You Go : http://goo.gl/ki7fU
                                Credit: India KTM Duke 200 Owners Group on Facebook

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