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thanks for reply, but here the proper winters will start from mid November and then too temp will be generally around 12-15 degrees till mid jan and then they will again start to rise so which grade should i choose
also some people are taking Duke heat seriously and saying hat after engine gets heated up they are experiencing drop in performance and harder gear shift does this also mean its better to stick with xxw50 as it will be better in dissipating heat then xxw40?

This looks like a million bucks, specially the silencers, do you know the details i.e. make, model price , where to procure etc of this silencer and do they add to exhaust note and power delivery?[/QUOTE]

Im gona use 15w50, 300v factory it seems like a good balance and good performance but i think you'll void your warranty. That picture's actually just a concept. Seems its akrapovic, i haven't seen any exhaust like that and i highly doubt it is manufactured. The bike is a 125 as u can see the exhaust coming from the RHS unlike ours, or that may just be a mirror effect.

3M polishing costs approximately Rs 1600 ( includes wash, Polish & a plastic protective layer).This sounds a little expensive to me.Another alternative is to buy your own wash and lube kit.Your kit should should have a ''car'' wash shampoo that contains carbonara wax, a sponge, a mocro fiber cloth, chain lube and a 2 Liter water sprayer can.You can get all of these from a Shell petrol bunk store or from a busy automobile street in your city.The total cost of this kit will be about 1000 RS and will last for 6 to 8 months if you wash your bikes ones in a week.The carbonara wax will give your bike the luster and shine you want.This will also save you 100 rs that you will be charged if you take the bike to the service center to do the water wash.

Iam sharing my weekend workout in keeping it clean. I have shared this on my R15 thread, the procedure can be the same. Instead of 3m coating this can work wonders as this is tried and tested for the 4th bike in my life. Also, you know the bike every weekend if it requires any repairs or not. That doesnt mean 3m is bad, but this can be another alternative.

@others can use this technique too, thinking of patenting it

Tools used - (Iam putting it through the procedure wise)
1) WD40 - Rs 250 - 400ml
2) Motomax Shampoo - Rs 50 - 100ml
3) Motomax Liquid Polish - Rs 60(odd) -100ml
4) Motomax 2k Rubbing Compound - Rs 50 - 50ml (For scratches only)
5) Motomax Dashboard Polish - Rs 90 - 100ml
6) Oks Chain Spray - Rs 260 - 500ml

Procedure

1) Spray WD-40 on chain, make sure you spray it directly, you will observer that dirt starts dripping as it is a strong degreaser. Make sure the bike is on paddock stand as it requires continuous motion to penetrate deep inside the chain. If you do not have a paddock stand, do not worry. Get hold of a friend who can tilt the bike one side and then you can spray it with ease.

TIP - Its a chain degreaser so use it first before washing so that once the dirt is gone a pressurized spray will remove the left over WD40 also or else when you lube it it will immediately degrease it within seconds.

2) Now the chain is clean, head for washing. I do not have a pressurized pump or motor for washing. A bucket full of water and a clean cloth is enough for me. 1 and half bucket of water, make the bike completely wet, then add the shampoo and wipe it clean. Make sure the cloth has enough foam to remove mud from panels and parts. Make good foam and wipe the panels properly, once done rinse the bike completely.

3) Once the bike has dried, do not keep it under sunlight, make sure you have another dry cloth to wipe it dry. Once dried apply the polish, use a soft sponge which can help in damping the panels. DO not, I Repeat do not apply polish when the bike is wet. Till then you can let the washing cloth dry in sun. Now its buffed up but not wiped with dry cloth so let it be that way, it needs to dry up, no sunlight either.

4) Apply Oks Chain spray till the polish dries. Make sure you perform this step with the use of paddock stand or with the help of a friend. Do not try to do it on your own by tilting the bike one side, your hand might get caught in the sprocket or the wheel, then forget everything, yes even pleasuring your self . Now let the chain spray dry, with the application of chain spray the polish that you have applied in step 3 would have been dried up completely. Now wipe it off with the use of dry and clean cloth. Make sure headlights are covered too.

5) Apply the 2k rubbing compound if you see any minor scratches, apply it in circular pattern and once dried wipe it off.

6) Apply dashboard polish to the head console and those black panels which are surrounding the display unit. Cover mudguard, that fake carbon fiber side panels and mirrors (black rear side)

Difference after washing and lubing-

1) Paint has that glow which shows showroom finish.
2) Smooth gear shifts since the chain is cleaned and lubed in right manner.
3) Chain sprocket kit has longer life (Discover chain sprocket kit changed at 28,000kms and Pulsar - 33,000kms). Our R15 is freaking costly so might as well do it this way.
4) Lubing of minor parts is done too like clutch handle lever, gear levers, brake levers.

WARNING
1) Do not brush or spray water directly on the radiator.
2) Do not apply polish when the bike panels are wet.
3) Do not wipe off polish with a wet cloth, always use new, dry and clean cloth.
4) Always have a friend who can help in lubing and cleaning of chain if you do not posses a paddock stand.
5) Do not dry or wash your bike in directly sunlight, washing okay not for long but a serious no for polishing it in direct sunlight.
6) Radiator cleaning should be done at SVC only, they have the right tools.

All the products are easily available in automobile shops, if not then check in shell petrol pumps they stock MotoMax products. This is affordable for me and gives me the perfect shine, yet there are products in the market which might actually glow in dark types but iam satisfied with the output and cost spent on these products.

Attaching a pic of the products i use, Sorry for the quality since its taken on my cellphone.
If you have any doubts feel free to ask.

All these products last for 6months odd. Total time taking not more than an hour.

I am a little finicky about car shampoos with 'carnuba' wax as additives. I am little unsure of how the gloss would look on the black plastic parts. So I instead prefer a plain jain car wash shampoo like the pidilite Motomax mentioned in the next post). One can always apply wax separately after a wash. Your's is a shortcut I guess which I agree might save a lot of time ad effort.
PS : people who really like to take the pain can also head to the bike polish thread and go through posts by n_aditya and stefanm there. Stefan has posted detailed instructions on how to do it much like the above post by Eshan-P180. It's better to have different perspectives and then decide how to go ahead.
Also keep in mind that much of the painted area of duke is covered by stickers and that only the trellis frame, engine and the shocker are metallic.The plastic tank cover is cheap too
cheers.

@Bplus and @Eshan-P180

Thank you for the useful advice, definitely buying that kit.

@Bplus i've saved your post on necessary info about the Duke, all the tips and all. Very informative and useful

Attached a picture of my Duke, Love the Orange color!

dont know much about the exhaust .. blokes here in bangalore are coming up with a remap which will produce 40bhp .. yes 40bhp .. might be in testing phase now ..power to weight ratio of 294ps/ton .. that is more than a bmw M3 ..i have been told that remap will be made available at a surprising price ..might come out in just a few months time..

was looking for dashboard polish .. thx for the info .. i shall now buy it from shell..
one doubt .. shampoo on matt black parts and dashboard parts make them lose their color right ?

Its better to use Kerosene instead of WD-40 on O-ring chain,Which can effect O-rings strength and Kerosene is cheaper too,

Experiment on O-rings from ADV rider,PART II WD-40 O-ring exposure effect results - ADVrider

What the F*** !!

KTM All-round success for KTM in Moto3!

That's a race spec 250cc KTM and its maximum power output is 37Kw,i.e. ~49hp. How can a 200cc KTM with just a ecu remap be able to produce 40bhp ??

Make sure the shampoo is clear and not Wash&wax, this is where fading on matt part begins. If you buy the plain shampoo expect no harm.

The above test is conducted for several days dipped in wd40, when I'm clearly stating that have a pressure wash on the chain to remove left over Wd40. Diesel is an alternative but a time consuming process. Exposure of WD40 for such less time shouldnt affect the performance, the P180 I owned had a chain replacement at odd 36,000kms after having weekly exposure to WD40.

EDIT- I thought KTM Duke 200 uses Xring chains, can anyone check that please. Also, its in the power part for Zring, if in case its a X ring chain then expect WD40 to work in the most precised manner, it can surely keep the chain free from dirt and there wouldnt be any problem in regards to weakening the strength of O rings.

Pressure washing the chain is never a good idea. Pressurized water might damage the O ring.
The duke chain is O ring. They offer a Z ring as a power part in Europe.
The vendor which supplies the chain is Rolon I guess and they have recommende a chain cleaner like oks or Motul. Diesel, petrol and kerosene should not be used to clean. These might harm the chain in the long run.

check this link out

How to Lube Your Motorcycle Chain

Major Face Palm

Do not hold the gun directly on the link just dab the chain properly, the SVC guy or you can prolly do it without any problem.

the question asked in the page you mentioned in regards to wd40 is

MC: Any thoughts on the use of WD-40 as a chain lube for O-ring chains?
PJH: Whether it's WD-40 or LPS3, a motorcycle chain has such demands on it, and one of them is absorbing shock, whether it's between the sprockets and the chain, or whether it's between the internal parts of the chain. And WD-40 doesn't have that, it's not designed for that purpose, it's not formulated for that.


But Iam again telling you its a degresser and not a lubricant. Please sir get your facts checked before posting wrong information. Also, please conduct research on how many times do foreign countries like UK, US, AUS, ITA, CAN, IOM community ride their bike in a year and what are the conditions in regards to dust and spores being present in the environment.

Also lubing and cleaning for track based machines is different than road or street based machines.

A product call Yamalube chain spray is available in YFS here.
F*** Motul, OKS, TVS Chain spray and all other crappy stuff manufactured, it is purely meant for track basis, its dry wax type spray. Cost Rs1670 + Tax. Now shall we talk about lubrication and cleaning?

Saar confuse mat ho jao, WD40 is degresser and not a lubricant and can be used for cleaning chains, provided you wash it off the chain after the dripping of dirt has stopped, once dried dont forget to lubricate it with CHAIN LUBE SPRAY and not WD40

EDIT - And we are talking about cleaning, why are you showing me an article of lubing?

I did not confuse your take on WD40 as a degreaser man! I posted the link just to point that Diesel/kerosene should not be used to clean the O ring chain, which you have suggested too, apart from the fact that WD40 can be used as degreaser.
So please take it in that context.

PJH: First, some kerosenes can, I think, affect the O-ring itself. Secondly, kerosene can leave a film, and that makes it more difficult for the chain lubricant to attach itself to the chain's surface. Naphtha [used in some spray chain-cleaners] can also leave a film.

Yes it is much better than that, also cost effective as mentioned it is Rs260 for 500ML against Rs495 for 400ml of motul.

Yes motul has bifurcation for road and offroad.

No WD40 is strong so lasts long and cost is less than mentioned.

Trust me WD40 is also used in cleaning car and bike engines from outside. Just spray it directly, dab a dry cloth and the engine actually sparkles. The story also says door joints and every small or big machines you see can be used for smooth functioning with Wd40

Both can be equated you can say that WD40=Motul Cleaner but then price, choice is yours.

Not debating or something just read the questions there, Sorry for posting differently and not editing the previous one.

WD-40 Facts & Myths | WD-40 Ingredients

Check the link.

Now check this one, download that small video, free all the concepts of this exceptional product.

WD-40 Big Blast Can | Aerosol Lubricant, Protectant & More

@All this is just for information basis... Sharing my 2cents about chain cleaning and maintenance.

even i thought the same .. but it is actually 40bhp .. they will be testing it on 2 bikes before bringing it to public ..they are adding two fans to the radiator ..