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**extremerocker00** · 07-19-2012, 01:57 PM

Originally posted by vidy View Post

Can you elaborate this ? And justify where comparison became unfair and crime

Elaboration -It wont help much as you dont appear like a person who will comprehend anything.

Crime - Never said it was one.

Justification - I have ridden bikes from 125 cc to 600 cc. I am talking with some experience.

one point though - You can confirm it with MG sir. He seems to have test ridden Pulsar and has a good idea about the Duke too.

**rx100.7050** · 07-19-2012, 02:08 PM

Originally posted by vidy View Post

Answers in Bold,

Yes, son... Fi & Carb bike will behave very differently. Heck, Duke has got closed loop Fi !!

Just because you have Duke, you seem to discard the 200 NS. Even Chassis is different! Just because it shares the same engine configuration (even head is different) one MUST compare & out rightly say P200NS is nothing. No Mr, it has enough technological advances.
As it's been said that it's aimed at completely different segment.

KTM for enthusiasts.
P200NS for masses who want advanced tech & performance but within the budget.
Both the machine has it's own place & are brilliant.

You won't understand since you must be having Unicorn. I have 220 Fi & I have ridden both Duke & P200NS. Pulsar has evolved a HELL lot.

**vidy** · 07-19-2012, 02:11 PM

Originally posted by extremerocker00 View Post

Elaboration -It wont help much as you dont appear like a person who will comprehend anything.

Well,why dont you just try once instead of getting personal..

Crime - Never said it was one.
Missed the smiley? You didnt get the sarcasm, were you Sheldon cooper ?,BTW

Justification - I have ridden bikes from 125 cc to 600 cc. I am talking with some experience.
Respect that

one point though - You can confirm it with MG sir. He seems to have test ridden Pulsar and has a good idea about the Duke too.
Opinions differs ,Did i said they all are negatives .i quoted those opinions as Things i dint likeNot exactly negatives)

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**vidy** · 07-19-2012, 02:25 PM

Sorry for posting back to back

Originally posted by rx100.7050 View Post

Yes, son... Fi & Carb bike will behave very differently. Heck, Duke has got closed loop Fi !!

thats right. Behavior will be different. I just told its not my like not as flaws/negatives . Get your glasses and read once again,Uncle.

Just because you have Duke, you seem to discard the 200 NS. Even Chassis is different! Just because it shares the same engine configuration (even head is different) one MUST compare & out rightly say P200NS is nothing. No Mr, it has enough technological advances.
As it's been said that it's aimed at completely different segment.

Chasis is different(Perimeter vs trellis),Engine heads different (SOHC vs DOHC) but there isnt A thing like we MUSTn't Compare .At the end of the day , its what i Pay what im gonna experience

and never said NS is nothing .Just told its not my like and certainly not aimed at me.Please Re-read i told 'if duke wasnt released sure i would have gone for NS'

KTM for enthusiasts.
P200NS for masses who want advanced tech & performance but within the budget.
Both the machine has it's own place & are brilliant.

You won't understand since you must be having Unicorn.

Now, Where that come from? and yes i retained it

I have 220 Fi & I have ridden both Duke & P200NS. Pulsar has evolved a HELL lot.

Yes,Evolved a lot . But not its not my cup of tea at least after riding duke

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Originally posted by Shibadip View Post

Guys am not here to fuel up the comparison.
Also not the right thread to do.

But, IMO, the comparison actually doesnt stand good.
The following are in support of claim:

NS is a total VFM bike, with the features it boards at 85K ex-showroom.
DUKE is NO LESS than NS in VFM quotient with its top notch features at 1.3lakh ex showroom

Correction its 1.21L ex showroom

So, is duke a better bike than NS??
Hell yes, but for than u are spending out 45k more for those extra features which makes it better.

Thus it comes to one simple rule.--
It one has budget issues, then go for NS.
Else Duke will be the apt choice.

I told the same"If duke wasnt released i would have gone for 200NS for its VFM" ,

But Unlike you i did post some of my dislikes in NS ,Magically my likes over Duke disappeared to them (Gear shifts,Suspension,Mud guards,seats,smooth engine)

PS- Have ridden neither of them, so my opinion is purely based on theoretical facts.

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Enough OT from me, I quit.

**extremerocker00** · 07-19-2012, 02:47 PM

Originally posted by vidy View Post

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Precisely buddy, one must not get personal. I am just saying that the comparison is not justified and correct as both the bikes are clearly NOT in the same league. Its you whos highly biased towards one of the bikes and thus getting personal for the same reason.

I fail to understand the reason why people are hell bent on criticising the other bikes when they decide on buying one. Its not needed.

Lets look at things from a neutral, unbiased perspective and then speak. Like rx100.7050 bro said , it is not appropriate to compare CBR 250 and Ninja 250 though both are 250 cc bikes, same way, it is not correct to compare NS and duke.

As to your sarcasm, you think I didnt understand it? Of course I did and just not to drag that further, I cut it off with a small line. Thats it.

**Newrider88** · 07-19-2012, 02:47 PM

Originally posted by extremerocker00 View Post

It is indeed unfair to compare both. Both bikes belong to entirely different families and the comparison cannot be fair.

You mean one bike is from KTM and other is from bajaj

. Yeah, it is really a unfair comparison.

**extremerocker00** · 07-19-2012, 02:52 PM

Originally posted by Newrider88 View Post

You mean one bike is from KTM and other is from bajaj

. Yeah, it is really a unfair comparison.

I dont think duke in India is KTM manufactured. It wont be wrong to label it Bajaj duke I guess

. Having said that, no one can deny that it is a great bike.

**NiXTriX** · 07-19-2012, 02:56 PM

Is this the KTM ownership thread or What bike section?

**Newrider88** · 07-19-2012, 02:57 PM

Originally posted by extremerocker00 View Post

I dont think duke in India is KTM manufactured. It wont be wrong to label it Bajaj duke I guess

. Having said that, no one can deny that it is a great bike.

You didn't get my point. Both are naked bikes with almost same power output and liquid cooling. How is it unfair to compare both ?

**nasirkaka** · 07-19-2012, 03:13 PM

Guys, u all have been killing me with all the stories of how good the duke 200 is.

Have been trying to hold my horses and been eagerly waiting for the Duke 350, but following this thread is making it difficult to hold on. Sometimes, i feel like forget 350, just go and get the 200.

Now that you all are duke owners, and would be vising the showroom/service center regularly, would be kind if you could try and extract some info on the 350 from those guys and share it.

forgive if the post it OT.

**AntiqueBlue** · 07-19-2012, 03:15 PM

Originally posted by extremerocker00

its about peak power. For example at initial speeds in initial gears, a honda activa may race ahead of a bike like Ninja 250R (for which a duke is no match as we all know). But, at higher gears, it picks up and accelerates real smooth and can outsmart most of the bikes.

Same way, it could be such that duke accelerates better in speeds upto 80. That does not mean to say that ZMR is better than the duke. Duke is certainly better IMO. As I know, NS accelerates fantastically at higher speeds.

What

how did even Activa come in scene ?? Ninja accelarates better than Duke as per comparo..

**NiXTriX** · 07-19-2012, 03:32 PM

Originally posted by nasirkaka View Post

Guys, u all have been killing me with all the stories of how good the duke 200 is.

Have been trying to hold my horses and been eagerly waiting for the Duke 350, but following this thread is making it difficult to hold on. Sometimes, i feel like forget 350, just go and get the 200.

Now that you all are duke owners, and would be vising the showroom/service center regularly, would be kind if you could try and extract some info on the 350 from those guys and share it.

forgive if the post it OT.

I was informed by a Bajaj employee that it'll officially be Duke 390 and be here by end of this year one early next year. The 690 might also make it here around the same time with prices around the Kawa Ninja 650 range.

**Eshan-P180** · 07-19-2012, 03:34 PM

Originally posted by AntiqueBlue View Post

What

how did even Activa come in scene ?? Ninja accelarates better than Duke as per comparo..

LMAO

Originally posted by extremerocker00

You didnt get my point. I said about initial pick ups. During initial pick up, it happens many times that a small, light weight vehicle appears to have an edge only to get outraced later. Ninja doesnt accelerate better only than Duke but races better than any bike upto 250 cc in India.

ROFLMAO

Originally posted by extremerocker00

Duke 350 will be an overkill for crap indian roads. It will be a waste of money to buy a 350. 200 is more than sufficient. Go for it dude and then post all the goods and bads (niggles) about the bike.

Please quote during posting. Do not post again and again, Edit the previous one if you have new data to post.

EDIT - 2 Things i would like to say

1) Conversation in regards to comparison stops here since this is an ownership thread. Go PM or fight somewhere else, keep the thread clean.
2) A Duke is better in Acceleration with the Ninja 250R, please see torque figures and overall power to weight ratio. Though the Goblin will overtake in later gears.

Please get your facts straight before posting.

**Shibadip** · 07-19-2012, 03:39 PM

Originally posted by nasirkaka View Post

Guys, u all have been killing me with all the stories of how good the duke 200 is.

Have been trying to hold my horses and been eagerly waiting for the Duke 350, but following this thread is making it difficult to hold on. Sometimes, i feel like forget 350, just go and get the 200.

Now that you all are duke owners, and would be vising the showroom/service center regularly, would be kind if you could try and extract some info on the 350 from those guys and share it.

forgive if the post it OT.

as shared by @chintan in NS thread, Mr. bajaj quoted in an interview in a pvt TV channel, that "they are planning to LAUNCH something BIG this festival time - Around Oct."
now its upon u, that what you speculate from that!!

**sundar.chundu** · 07-19-2012, 03:44 PM

When will the power parts be available in India? any idea.. KTM and Bajaj should consider launching power parts before they launch new bikes

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