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  • Re: TVS Apache RR310

    Originally posted by dineshaugustin View Post
    What rollers.? can you please explain a bit.
    Thanks
    Chain tensioner roller near the swing arm.

    I am running the original design. I haven't/don't want to change it.

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    • Re: TVS Apache RR310

      Originally posted by JS16 View Post
      Chain tensioner roller near the swing arm.

      I am running the original design. I haven't/don't want to change it.
      That means his bike belongs to early batch.


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      TVS Apache RR 310 : 2018
      Hero Honda HUNK : 2011-2018

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      • Re: TVS Apache RR310

        Originally posted by JS16 View Post
        Chain tensioner roller near the swing arm.

        I am running the original design. I haven't/don't want to change it.
        But in your earlier posts you did mention it was fixed right. It wasn't in your bike?
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        Last edited by AKULA_RR_Anto; 06-26-2018, 01:47 PM.

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        • Re: TVS Apache RR310

          Seriously B7ACKTHORN? Notifying other people's lies about the motorcycle and asking them take that back is OT now? U are encouraging his lies now. I hope you are doing the right thing as a mod.

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          • Re: TVS Apache RR310

            Originally posted by Sheik mohamed View Post
            Seriously B7ACKTHORN? Notifying other people's lies about the motorcycle and asking them take that back is OT now? U are encouraging his lies now. I hope you are doing the right thing as a mod.
            Apologies for my intrusion, but unlike you, i know what he has done to his bike regarding the roller. He said TVS fixed the issue by new roller design, and he never said that he got the roller fixed. If you dont know the complete story, please make use of the PM feature and then reply to the post.
            Nothing wrong in posting your view, but please make sure you dont post anything wrong( incomplete info.)
            Last edited by dineshaugustin; 06-27-2018, 10:02 AM.


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            • Re: TVS Apache RR310

              Originally posted by dineshaugustin View Post
              Apologies for my intrusion, but unlike you, i know what he has done to his bike regarding the roller. He said TVS fixed the issue by new roller design, and he never said that he got the roller fixed. If you dont know the complete story, please make use of the PM feature and then reply to the post.
              Nothing wrong in posting your view, but please make sure you dont post anything wrong( incomplete info.)
              Can you help if the new roller design reduces the sound? If yes. Why you guys prefer the original one? Is there anything we are missing here?

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              • Re: TVS Apache RR310

                Originally posted by AKULA_RR_Anto View Post
                Can you help if the new roller design reduces the sound? If yes. Why you guys prefer the original one? Is there anything we are missing here?
                In my experience, the chain sound still exist , but it is coming from the top , where chain might hit the rubber padding on the swingarm. Iam not so sure about this, but still sound is there. It happens only when you downshift or when going over irregular roads.
                I didnt bother much since it doesnt spoil the riding experience.
                Last edited by dineshaugustin; 06-27-2018, 04:58 PM.


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                TVS Apache RR 310 : 2018
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                • Re: TVS Apache RR310

                  Originally posted by dineshaugustin View Post
                  In my experience, the chain sound still exist , but it is coming from the top , where chain might hit the rubber padding on the swingarm. Iam not so sure about this, but still sound is there. It happens only when you downshift or when going over irregular roads.
                  I didnt bother much since it doesnt spoil the riding experience.
                  how many km have you clocked on your 310 ?
                  any specific name or can you post the location of that part which people are referring to as chain tensioner or chain roller. i haven't really paid a close attention to the mechanical parts yet, so unable to guess what they are.. are you referring to the chain slider ?

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                  • Re: TVS Apache RR310

                    Originally posted by s1d View Post
                    how many km have you clocked on your 310 ?
                    any specific name or can you post the location of that part which people are referring to as chain tensioner or chain roller. i haven't really paid a close attention to the mechanical parts yet, so unable to guess what they are.. are you referring to the chain slider ?
                    It's under the front left foot peg..

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                    Originally posted by AKULA_RR_Anto View Post
                    But in your earlier posts you did mention it was fixed right. It wasn't in your bike?
                    What's your observation regarding the roller? Can you provide some insight on which bike it was fixed by TVS and why do you prefer the original rollers?
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                    • Re: TVS Apache RR310

                      Originally posted by dineshaugustin View Post
                      In my experience, the chain sound still exist , but it is coming from the top , where chain might hit the rubber padding on the swingarm. Iam not so sure about this, but still sound is there. It happens only when you downshift or when going over irregular roads.
                      I didnt bother much since it doesnt spoil the riding experience.
                      Yes, if you are traveling on bumpy road then the noise is evident. The solution to this seems to be to have something soft that can absorb the hit of chain but do note that this is an experimental fix that you will be testing on your risk

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                      • Re: TVS Apache RR310

                        Originally posted by Mayur392 View Post
                        Yes, if you are traveling on bumpy road then the noise is evident. The solution to this seems to be to have something soft that can absorb the hit of chain but do note that this is an experimental fix that you will be testing on your risk
                        Wasn't the post same as mine?
                        I applied a rubber coating on the original roller. I just wanted to check and it works just fine.

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                        • Re: TVS Apache RR310

                          Originally posted by AKULA_RR_Anto View Post
                          What's your observation regarding the roller? Can you provide some insight on which bike it was fixed by TVS and why do you prefer the original rollers?
                          Thanks for the info & picture. So that roller just sits there bolted on or does it move up/down like a spring loaded auto tensioner? from the picture it looks like it's fixed and just rotates (or maybe doesn't, please clarify) as the chain goes over it. if that is so, i wonder what made tvs opt for such a design.. i feel that a roller which doesn't 'auto tension' (for the lack of a better term) would probably cause noise with the chain hitting it. A spring loaded auto tensioner would have been a nice touch.
                          maybe tvs will redesign this in the future.

                          btw, here is something i came across from bmw site, choose the G 310 R model and you can browse thru the parts. interesting, even shows the prices!

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                          • Re: TVS Apache RR310

                            Originally posted by JS16 View Post
                            Chain tensioner roller near the swing arm.

                            I am running the original design. I haven't/don't want to change it.
                            Originally posted by dineshaugustin View Post
                            In my experience, the chain sound still exist , but it is coming from the top , where chain might hit the rubber padding on the swingarm. Iam not so sure about this, but still sound is there. It happens only when you downshift or when going over irregular roads.
                            I didnt bother much since it doesnt spoil the riding experience.
                            This bike like Dominar 400 has a longer swingarm so the chain noise or kat kat from chain while riding on a rough patch at low speed will always remain there.
                            As the chain is long and swingarm is also long compared to normal bikes, and it is for this reason companies has used the chain slider/guide over the swing arm to prevent the chain from hitting it.
                            The best solution to reduce the chain issue is to keep the chain lubricated and make sure that the chain slack is at recommended level which for Dominar's case is 20 to 30mm and i guess it would be same for 310rr.
                            No matter how much adjustment u do to the chain , there is no way to avoid it from hitting the slider and that slider is there for this job.
                            Make sure that the slider is always in good health means it remains at its place.
                            I have seen many owners keeping the chain over tight to avoid the noise , which is not good for the chain set. And sometimes owners end up employing some sort of juggad fix to make the chain stretched to avoid the hitting which ia also bad. As the chain should always have the recomended slack to avoid breakage and other serious issues.

                            Other important point is the clean the front sproket at regular intervals , say for example clean it at every alternate chain clean or whenever u feel it is getting mucky

                            And yes there would be a issue if the chain is hitting something other then the slider.

                            Keep lubing the chain regularly say at every 300 to 500 kms these bikes run at higher rpm and the chain is open and it does get dry faster the normal chains, in my case with dominar i lube it every 300 to 400kms and i use gear oil ep90 in winters and ep140 in summers as it remains for a longer period and is a economical option.

                            Just wipe the chain properly with a lint free cloth before lubing this would also help u in avoiding frequent cleaning.

                            And lastly i hope i don't offend anyone by posting here.
                            Last edited by Ijs; 06-28-2018, 06:38 AM.

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                            • Re: TVS Apache RR310

                              Originally posted by s1d View Post
                              how many km have you clocked on your 310 ?
                              any specific name or can you post the location of that part which people are referring to as chain tensioner or chain roller. i haven't really paid a close attention to the mechanical parts yet, so unable to guess what they are.. are you referring to the chain slider ?
                              Mine completed 250kms. Regarding roller pictures and the sound already been clarified by others.
                              I think a small sprocket instead of roller would have been netter, but again it is like adding another variable in the equation.But i suspect the chain hitting sound is coming from the top and not from the roller.


                              Originally posted by Ijs View Post
                              This bike like Dominar 400 has a longer swingarm so the chain noise or kat kat from chain while riding on a rough patch at low speed will always remain there.
                              As the chain is long and swingarm is also long compared to normal bikes, and it is for this reason companies has used the chain slider/guide over the swing arm to prevent the chain from hitting it.
                              The best solution to reduce the chain issue is to keep the chain lubricated and make sure that the chain slack is at recommended level which for Dominar's case is 20 to 30mm and i guess it would be same for 310rr.
                              No matter how much adjustment u do to the chain , there is no way to avoid it from hitting the slider and that slider is there for this job.
                              Make sure that the slider is always in good health means it remains at its place.
                              I have seen many owners keeping the chain over tight to avoid the noise , which is not good for the chain set. And sometimes owners end up employing some sort of juggad fix to make the chain stretched to avoid the hitting which ia also bad. As the chain should always have the recomended slack to avoid breakage and other serious issues.

                              Other important point is the clean the front sproket at regular intervals , say for example clean it at every alternate chain clean or whenever u feel it is getting mucky

                              And yes there would be a issue if the chain is hitting something other then the slider.

                              Keep lubing the chain regularly say at every 300 to 500 kms these bikes run at higher rpm and the chain is open and it does get dry faster the normal chains, in my case with dominar i lube it every 300 to 400kms and i use gear oil ep90 in winters and ep140 in summers as it remains for a longer period and is a economical option.

                              Just wipe the chain properly with a lint free cloth before lubing this would also help u in avoiding frequent cleaning.

                              And lastly i hope i don't offend anyone by posting here.
                              Neatly explained.
                              Much longer swing arm needs additional support at the bottom to maintain the tooth contact of the chain and hence roller is employed. And i think this also results in additional slack at the top which tends to hit the protector on the swingarm. RR doesnt have the usual bike design, the swing arm way more longer and this sound is a little trade for its excellent stability which am happy to do with. There is no issue with chain sprocket itself which the social media is talking about with incomplete info. Yes, if TVS could found the solution it would be good.
                              Last edited by dineshaugustin; 06-28-2018, 10:28 AM.


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                              TVS Apache RR 310 : 2018
                              Hero Honda HUNK : 2011-2018

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                              • Re: TVS Apache RR310

                                Originally posted by JS16 View Post
                                Wasn't the post same as mine?
                                I applied a rubber coating on the original roller. I just wanted to check and it works just fine.
                                Yes it was but people aren't understanding so tried to explain the same in different way [emoji12]

                                Also i said : experiment at your own risk with different things [emoji6]

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