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  • #316
    Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
    Ok , shoeb'Jee ... first, a big kudos for all the hard work ... BRAVO .

    Can you tell us the gory details that made you reach this conclusion .. I want to follow your experiment steps .
    Also tell us how to replace each of those lamps with LED , one by one .. along with the other necessary circuit (resistance, diodes and capacitors) necessary . Pics if possible ,all can benefit from it .
    A big thanks for the brave effort again .
    I also converted my splendor to FULL Dc some six months ago when Above ALL converted his passion's electricals to Full DC.

    After converting it to full dc I was not satisfied with the output at lower RPMs so I decided to Re-wind the coils to prevent battery drain at lower revs.

    Stock vs re-winded.
    At idle RPM 0.5amps - 0.6amps
    ~2500 RPM 2 amps - 3 amps (I was expecting more than 3.5amps)
    5000+ RPM 3.5 ~4 - 5.5 amps

    What was the reason for low output at lower RPMs ?
    I think that The magnet is to designed be weak so that it does not over-load the engine at lower Revs and stall it.

    But then DO we always drive at High RPMs ?
    The answer was a BIG "NO"
    The battery would drain during Bumper to bumper traffic with headlights on or a temporary solution was to install a 7 Ah battery which would get charged at High Rpms and it would involve some more changes which I did not want to make.


    Hence I reverted back to Ac/Dc setup as my ultimate goal of achieving brighter Headlight was accomplished and there was no need for me to have a full Dc setup.


    Pinaki Ji,
    I would recommend you to first remove all the extra bulbs and then GO for a test ride.
    If you feel there is improvement in lighting then replace all the bulbs removed with LED.

    http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/763017-post176.html,In this post Abhijeet has mentioned that T10 socket are available in Kolkata.
    Contact him for the exact location.
    Last edited by shoeb2015; 04-04-2012, 12:48 AM.

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    • #317
      Originally posted by shoeb2015 View Post
      ...Hence I reverted back to Ac/Dc setup as my ultimate goal of achieving brighter Headlight was accomplished ...
      Pinaki Ji,
      I would recommend you to first remove all the extra bulbs and then GO for a test ride.
      If you feel there is improvement in lighting then replace all the bulbs removed with LED.
      http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/763017-post176.html,In this post Abhijeet has mentioned that T10 socket are available in Kolkata.
      Contact him for the exact location.
      That is a very reasonable conclusion . No need to go full DC just because it's got fashionable .
      No need for test , I am committed to replace all other bulbs other than headlamp with LEDs . Also I am not likely to go hunting for those twinsy winsy T10s(would take hours in this heat) , rather make my own out of the plentiful variety of LEDs available here now . Just gimme an idea of the circuit and the components that I need to buy . I'm good at soldering and making things .

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      • #318
        Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
        That is a very reasonable conclusion . No need to go full DC just because it's got fashionable .
        No need for test , I am committed to replace all other bulbs other than headlamp with LEDs . Also I am not likely to go hunting for those twinsy winsy T10s(would take hours in this heat) , rather make my own out of the plentiful variety of LEDs available here now . Just gimme an idea of the circuit and the components that I need to buy . I'm good at soldering and making things .
        Buy as many LEDs you can,There are Innumerable uses of LEDs.
        5mm ultra bright.(Each led costs ~Rs.3 )
        10mm (costs Rs.8 per pc)

        560,470,390,180,18 ohms resistors.
        (These are Very cheap, Rs.4 for 25 resistors so try to get all of mentioned values)(Try to get at-least the values in bold)

        Additional Components to Smoothen the AC input and protect the LED from reverse voltage.
        1.1N4007 Rectifier diodes(5 nos)
        2.470,1000 μF 25volts capacitors.(2 nos each)

        The Circuit
        Note-The top one utilizes a diode to protect LED whereas the second one uses another LED in inverse-parallel.(Both do the same job of protecting LED)

        Last edited by shoeb2015; 04-05-2012, 01:31 AM.

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        • #319
          To convert the blinkers to LED I was wondering if the stock flasher unit may or may not work with LEDs , because of the drop in load . I was long suspecting the Splendor's flasher unit to be an electro-mechanical relay from the tick-tick noise it makes in operation , so today I got some time to dismantle it .



          So yes , it is not an electronic timer based device but an electro-mechanical relay with a mechanical switch operated by the electromagnet coil , that makes and breaks the circuit at a particular rate ( inscribed on the case as 85 per min, I think ) . Being such an simple circuit , any reason it may not work with LED blinkers instead of the bulbs, stock or with a simple mod ? Any ideas please ...

          Last edited by Pinaki; 04-06-2012, 11:05 PM.

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          • #320
            Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
            To convert the blinkers to LED I was wondering if the stock flasher unit may or may not work with LEDs , because of the drop in load . I was long suspecting the Splendor's flasher unit to be an electro-mechanical relay from the tick-tick noise it makes in operation , so today I got some time to dismantle it .

            So yes , it is not an electronic timer based device but an electro-mechanical relay with a mechanical switch operated by the electromagnet coil , that makes and brakes the circuit at a particular rate ( inscribed on the case as 85 per min, I think ) . Being such an simple circuit , any reason it may not work with LED blinkers instead of the bulbs, stock or with a simple mod ? Any ideas please ...
            It will not work,Instead go for a complete electric blinker relay.

            Simple Mod
            You can use a load resistor to create some load but will result in loss of energy.

            Or
            make your own 555 based timer.

            BTW,Why do you want to covert blinkers to LED ?
            Last edited by shoeb2015; 04-06-2012, 04:08 PM.

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            • #321
              Originally posted by shoeb2015 View Post
              It will not work,Instead go for a complete electric beeper relay.

              Simple Mod
              You can use a load resistor to create some load but will result in loss of energy.

              Or
              make your own 555 based timer.

              BTW,Why do you want to covert blinkers to LED ?
              Why not ?

              No , I don't like that idea of using load resistors because I am trying to reduce load here .

              Yes , I got a circuit diagram from instructables.com for one with 555 IC ... maybe I'll try it .. need time .

              Because LED flasher would be more robust to shocks and vibrations , longer lasting and much less load on the battery than the incandescent bulbs .... would continue to work even with almost dying battery I think .

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              • #322
                Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
                Why not ?

                No , I don't like that idea of using load resistors because I am trying to reduce load here .

                Yes , I got a circuit diagram from instructables.com for one with 555 IC ... maybe I'll try it .. need time .

                A 555 timer has a max output capacity of 200mA so you can use only 10(of 20mA) LEDs per side.
                Eg:-
                Front RH -5 leds
                Rear RH- 5 leds

                Because LED flasher would be more robust to shocks and vibrations , longer lasting and much less load on the battery than the incandescent bulbs .... would continue to work even with almost dying battery I think .

                Good idea.
                Replies in Bold

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                • #323
                  Originally posted by shoeb2015 View Post
                  ...A 555 timer has a max output capacity of 200mA so you can use only 10(of 20mA) LEDs per side.
                  Eg:- Front RH -5 leds Rear RH- 5 leds ...
                  I need at least 20 of the 5mm or 10 of the 10mm , 20Ma orange colour LEDs per blinker . That's a shame then , either 555 timer cannot do it , or I'll need to use one such 555IC per blinker .

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                  • #324
                    You can use a MOSFET such as a IRFZ44 and switch loads upto 45 AMPS.
                    Is it enough ?

                    EDIT
                    Check out the Link below,It is easy to understand.
                    Universal Electronic Signal Flasher for Motorcycles | Techy at day, Blogger at noon, and a Hobbyist at night
                    Last edited by shoeb2015; 04-08-2012, 12:06 AM.

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                    • #325
                      LOL , Yeahhh ... pass on the circuit please (plus simple instructions) .

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                      • #326
                        After riding Passion for 20 kms in city at high revs and excessive stop,fast go,stop... traffic ,transmission and chain started to act up.

                        Note-My dad was driving and I was a Pillion

                        On way to home, chain started to make tak-tak noise and it felt like the noise was coming from rear drum ONLY when the clutch was PULLED/DISENGAGED .
                        The sound would go away as soon as the clutch is left .

                        Then I took a TD after reaching home and I find out that:-

                        Along with the tak-tak sound I could feel some drag and jerks as if I was tapping the rear brake pedal.
                        (I suspect that the chain is jumping and is tight at certain places.???)

                        After stopping ,I was unable to shift the gear from neutral to 1st gear even after pulling the clutch all way in.
                        It was making grinding noise as soon as I let the clutch.
                        I had to engage and disengage the clutch four-five times and then I was able to shift the gear.

                        (I suspect worn dog clutch here.????)

                        Then I put some some water on the rear drum and chain to cool it.
                        The tak-tak sound vanished
                        I let the bike cool for an hour,Engine is perfectly normal,gear shifts is smooth
                        Note-The engine Oil Is Castrol Activ 15w40

                        What could be the cause ?
                        Was it due to engine overheating coupled along with worn gears ?????
                        Or due to oil becoming excessively thin ??
                        Last edited by shoeb2015; 04-08-2012, 12:54 AM.

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                        • #327
                          Clean , lubricate and adjust chain slack correctly(1"-1.5" up and down in the middle) . Replace the oil with 20w40 motul or gulf ... the engine / transmission is certainly overheating which is kinda normal in such stop and go traffic . Also check brake that it is not riding when disengaged .

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                          • #328
                            Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
                            Clean , lubricate and adjust chain slack correctly(1"-1.5" up and down in the middle) . Replace the oil with 20w40 motul or gulf ... the engine / transmission is certainly overheating which is kinda normal in such stop and go traffic . Also check brake that it is not riding when disengaged .
                            Chain is clean and lubricated with Sae 90 gear oil and adjusted.
                            I think it is probably time to replace the chain as I had faced similar issue of tak-tak noise in splendor when the chain set was near end of its life.

                            The brake shoes and drum rubber are new and the brake is re-adjusted.

                            I have never faced this kind of issue earlier even during peak Hyderabad Summer.

                            I Will change the chain and sprocket.
                            If that doesn't solve the issue then I will open the engine and replace other parts also,which are in the pending list
                            Last edited by shoeb2015; 04-09-2012, 01:44 AM.

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                            • #329
                              Sibun,
                              What is the best AFR setting on a Splendor carb ?
                              How many Anticlockwise turns from Fully closed?


                              Is there any way to polish the the Steel silencer to remove the scratches caused by the footwear ?

                              Thanks in Advance.
                              Last edited by shoeb2015; 04-10-2012, 06:06 PM.

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                              • #330
                                Last time I started from 2.5 turns out from full tight and keep adjusting bit by bit until bike feels just right one day. mileage was 71-78 . This time I had it tuned from the HeroHonda ASC ... giving 60-65 only now .
                                No ; the more you try to rub out scratches on chrome, the more new ones you make . Better polish it with waxpol silicone polish, which makes it almost invisible for sometime .. while the polish coat lasts .

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