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**antz.bin** · 10-02-2010, 04:54 PM

@Fast_ferocious Suggestion: Give away the bike as total loss. If it is within 6months old, it wont have depreciated a lot by now. Your brother's acquaintance will get his total insured amount right now. In the process he will lose about 20k, but he wont have to be stuck with a badly crashed + repaired bike for the rest of its usable life. He could get a new one for a difference of 5k because as it is he will be paying 15k+ post insurance and watch the bike rot for at least 3 months awaiting spares, losing out on resale value + riding time in that period. Such claims usually take 7 days to get cleared.

In a nutshell: Claim for the bike and get a new ZMR.

@SnD Told ya!

**fast_ferocious** · 10-02-2010, 04:59 PM

Originally posted by antz.bin View Post

@Fast_ferocious Suggestion: Give away the bike as total loss. If it is within 6months old, it wont have depreciated a lot by now. Your brother's acquaintance will get his total insured amount right now. In the process he will lose about 20k, but he wont have to be stuck with a badly crashed + repaired bike for the rest of its usable life. He could get a new one for a difference of 5k because as it is he will be paying 15k+ post insurance and watch the bike rot for at least 3 months awaiting spares, losing out on resale value + riding time in that period. Such claims usually take 7 days to get cleared.

In a nutshell: Claim for the bike and get a new ZMR.

@SnD Told ya!

Hmmm... fine, will try to let the owner know.

**veryhiphop** · 10-04-2010, 09:58 AM

Yesterday get repaired the rear Tyre cut....need to check the air pressure again in 2/3 days..if air loose again then no option but to change tyre...

**anmol_1990** · 10-04-2010, 12:50 PM

Originally posted by veryhiphop View Post

Yesterday get repaired the rear Tyre cut....need to check the air pressure again in 2/3 days..if air loose again then no option but to change tyre...

now this is serious disadvantage of tubeless tyre.

**ravi@17bhp** · 10-04-2010, 01:15 PM

Originally posted by fast_ferocious View Post

Same here. I wouldn't take it even for free. Reason: Minor parts for my own ZMR are taking weeks and months to come, then all the parts for that ZMR will take ages

. HH, are you listening?

Now, it is not about the time they will take to repair; it is about how the handling would be after the repair. I am sure the chassis would have been out of shape. Noway you can correct it to the original, unless you get a new chassis.

Look into the option that Antz_Bin suggested.

From the photos, it looks damn nasty crash. I hope the rider is safe.

**veryhiphop** · 10-04-2010, 01:36 PM

Originally posted by anmol_1990 View Post

now this is serious disadvantage of tubeless tyre.

Advantages/disadvantages are there...and yes this is a major disadvantage of tubeless...anything wrong in tyre......pay for new Tyre...i hope i do not need to pay anything extra...

Wish you a very Happy B'day Anmol...

**anmol_1990** · 10-04-2010, 01:57 PM

Originally posted by veryhiphop View Post

Wish you a very Happy B'day Anmol...

Thanks buddy

**brijen.gamer** · 10-06-2010, 08:39 AM

heys guys whats the difference between tubless and tube tyre I mean which one is good and merits and demerits of both .... my zmr tyre has ripped of (burnout) so I am going to buy a new one

**anmol_1990** · 10-06-2010, 12:28 PM

Originally posted by brijen.gamer View Post

heys guys whats the difference between tubless and tube tyre I mean which one is good and merits and demerits of both .... my zmr tyre has ripped of (burnout) so I am going to buy a new one

both tyres have more or less same merits and demerits IMO, though tubeless tyres are considered because when they puncture the air doesn't escape very quickly.

**worrisomebear** · 10-06-2010, 09:40 PM

Originally posted by brijen.gamer View Post

heys guys whats the difference between tubless and tube tyre I mean which one is good and merits and demerits of both .... my zmr tyre has ripped of (burnout) so I am going to buy a new one

can you please uplaod pic in your avtaar..the 220 and zmr one.....here...

**neeraj.juneja** · 10-07-2010, 06:33 PM

about diwali discount

did HH provided any Discount on diwali occasion in past 4-5 years?

I need discount on ZMR.

**fast_ferocious** · 10-07-2010, 09:16 PM

Got a call from SVC today. Parts have been dispatched from Delhi. Will arrive within 4 days.

Cheers!

But I'll surely try to post an article in any of the newspapers about my 'pleasant' experience, so that people can think twice before throwing their money for these premium segment HH bikes.

Originally posted by neeraj.juneja View Post

did HH provided any Discount on diwali occasion in past 4-5 years?

I need discount on ZMR.

You expect discount on ZMR from HH? ROTFLMAO!

Do thank God if you get ZMR or its spares without waiting for too long.

**onlinesatish** · 10-07-2010, 09:22 PM

Originally posted by fast_ferocious View Post

Got a call from SVC today. Parts have been dispatched from Delhi. Will arrive within 4 days.

Cheers!

But I'll surely try to post an article in any of the newspapers about my 'pleasant' experience, so that people can think twice before throwing their money for these premium segment HH bikes.

You expect discount on ZMR from HH? ROTFLMAO!

Do thank God if you get ZMR or its spares without waiting for too long.

DC zindabad....they get good response!

**neeraj.juneja** · 10-08-2010, 09:37 AM

friends then do tell me what are the things to be considered while buying a new HH bike(ZMR).
How much km should be permissible on the Tripmeter.
Reply fast folks i might be getting one today.

Thanking you all in advance,
Neeraj

**neo88** · 10-08-2010, 09:59 AM

Originally posted by neeraj.juneja View Post

friends then do tell me what are the things to be considered while buying a new HH bike(ZMR).
How much km should be permissible on the Tripmeter.
Reply fast folks i might be getting one today.

Thanking you all in advance,
Siddhanth

Please go through the First Impression thread you will get all your answers ...

xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/desi-bikes/10422-karizma-zmr-ride-report-first-impressions-339.html

Few which I have saved. posting it right here :

What are the documents expected from Dealer ?
1) First and foremost you will recieve the bill(invoice of the vehicle with all details mentioned on it.
2) You will get the owner's manual (This is very important, it will mention all the thing you need to do while taking a delivery like check oil levels, check scratches, electricals, shock absorbers, etc etc,). Read this manual for things to check before taking delivery and then only take the delivery). Also make sure that all the details of free servicings etc are filled in this book.
3) Battery Warranty card, this will be given to you during delivery, keep it safely.
4) HH people have started giving a GoodLife membership card, you need to fill a small form a give it to them, a copy of that will be with you. It has some nice advantages, ask them for details.

What are the documents expected from RTO ?
1)You will get an Import bill, certificate of taxation and registration reciept.
2) Your RC card(smart card) will take 45 days to come, you can ride the bike with that for a max period of 90 days.

What are the documents expected from insurance ?
You will get a xerox of the insurance copy, but insist on the original copy of insurance asap.

Do we get any user / operational / service manual of ZMR along with the bike ? Do we get it separately?
Its called owner's manual, like i mentioned earlier
Which petrol should be used : Regular / Premium ?
Use the best petrol available in your city
Restriction of Speed and for how many kms ?
1) In the initial Run In period, dont ride the bike for long times (e.g. 30 mins or more). If you have to then let your bike relax for sometime after 30 mins.
2) Avoid riding on low gears or in traffic for long times.
3) initial 1000 kms speed to be mainted is 60 kmph as mentioned in the manual. people say different things about it. Stick to the manual, it will increase the life of ur engine

Restriction of rpm and for how many kms ? Max 4K RPM for First 1K kms, Max 4.5K for next 1K Kms, can stretch to max RPM in top gear
Sounds good but stick to it...because once you are on the bike...its difficult to control
Maximum rpm & speed for individual gear ? For regular use after restrictions are removed
For everyday riding,4-5 is a very comfortable zone, for touring u can stretch to 5-6
Washing bike with plain water everyday is it recommended? (This would be done by a washing guy and not me so... )
1)DONT LET THE WASHING GUY TOUCH YOU BIKE. The use dirty cloths, ditry water, etc... Use a bike cover to save it from everyday dust, Use a soft clean cloth to vipe off the mud... if some stains(or bird poop) use a moist cloth to remove that.
2) Wash it every 15 days-1 month, but remember DONT LEAVE YOU BIKE WET, dry it off, mud and wetness may lead to rusting.
Polishing it Fort-nightly ( wax polish ), is it recommended ? ( this I will be doing it )
Yes, its upto you. Polising surely makes the bike shine and you would love that [IMG]file:///C:/Users/nshah/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image001.gif[/IMG]
What is the checklist for servicing and when it should be done ?
A details check list in mentioned in the owner's manual, be present in the workshop when servicing is happening, because they skip a lot of things, make sure they do each and everything that is mentioned in the manual

Do's
1. Take Delivery as soon as the bike reaches the showroom
Yes, but you wont be able to ride the bike as it would have a temporary showroom number, your permanant number takes max 2 days after registration.
2. Check for Scratches & cracks during delivery
YES
3. Check functioning of all the electricals : Horn, lights, Digital display during delivery
As mentioned in the manual
4. Check for abnormal sound or smell during delivery
5. Take a small test drive before completing the delivery procedure and check all functions like gear shifts, electricals.

Dont's
1. Never buy a bike, if salesmen puts pressure on specific colour / bike
Dunno dont have any comments on this
2. Avoid handing by inexperienced / unfamiliar person
HELL YA!!! Dont let any1 like that even wander around your bike.

Suggestions / care to be taken for newbie ??
Love your bike like you love yourself. Care for it initially and it will care for you lifelong
Guidelines during Servicing :
1. Try to present / insist your presence while changing the Oil during SVCing
Not just during oil change, be there for everything.

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