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Hi ! how much KMS has your efi covered ? check whether fuel filter /air filter /spark plug is in good conditionOriginally posted by rohitruls View PostHi guys am from "BANGALORE", am new to the forum so didn't know where to post my question.
I own an apache rtr efi 160.
I have managed to touch138 Kmph singles on airport road in bangalore.
Now my problem is that my bike takes up alot of time to reach top speed and its not crossing 117 kmph. Ocassionally it crosses 120 in slopes.
I changed the clutch plates and the bike is smoother now but the problem still remains.
One of the mechanics i asked told me that changing the valves and the piston rings will bring back the bike to almost new condition and the bike will perform like before.
Also am planning to get a low price exhaust kit fitted as i want my bike to reach higher RPMs faster. Anybody from bangalore who can suggest me from where can i buy or enquire about the exhaust ???
as for the exhaust contact joel joseph at his mail id
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but how will you arrange those pilots in round unit??Originally posted by sai_ace View Post
Il take up your suggestions... and yeah, considering i am going for a round headlamp, does not make sense of having pilots, but still wondering whether we should remove the number plate lamps?
they look like odd thing out.The Magician"
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Even if the bush is severly damaged, i don't think it will show up as a length difference. Dunno for sure, have you ever tried it? AFAIK, the only way to check is a visual inspection of the bushes or checking for lateral play in the swingarm.Originally posted by nox2505 View Post80% are the chances that he need to change the swing arm pivot bush. to confirm that, i am asking him to measure the distance of pivot bolt center to swing arm end. If bush is damaged and swing arm is deflected, this distance wont remain same.
Another method to confirm this is to use string (line-dori).
Nice links buddy.
Incorrect shifting, with or without the clutch, will damage the dog teeth on the driving gears and cause excessive wear or bend the shifter forks. It will work on all gears, much harder from 1st to 2nd though. You will need to blip the throttle and get the timing spot on. Some people use this method, but NEVER use the technique of keeping pressure on the shift lever, i.e. keep it lifted up, then chop the throttle so that it shifts. By keeping the lever lifted you are actuating the forks to slide the dogged gears, but since the gearbox is under load, it won't shift till you chop the throttle. This will cause severe wear or bend the forks. Once they're damaged, they won't be able to properly slide the gears in and you will have a lot of missed shifts and 'grinding' gears. The rtr gearbox is not particularly suited to clutchless shifting, i've been doing so on all my bikes from the RX, Boxer, RD, CBZ etc without any issues, but it's just not smooth on the rtr.Originally posted by Tron05 View Postguys what are the parts that i would damage when upshifting gears without using clutch?
does it work on all gears or a few? didnt work when i wanted to upshift from 4 to 5, but did give me a nice leap when shifted from 2 to 3 at about 6k rpm
I think what he meant was since he's using a round headlight, he doesn't need pilots.Originally posted by rennycornelius View Postbut how will you arrange those pilots in round unit??
they look like odd thing out.
Pilot lights question
Can someone shed some light on what changes need to be done in the wiring circuit to have the pilots work only in the parking position on the handlebar switch and turn off when the main headlight is turned on. For clarity:
1. Pilots ON & Headlight OFF
2. Pilots OFF & Headlight ONLast edited by julianpaul; 05-29-2010, 08:55 PM.
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wheel base increase
friends i am back with another query....

i do a lot of touring and the bike literally dances in crosswinds....i have thought of a solution
1.change the swing arm to that of RTR180
2.change the chain sproket to that of RTR180
3.change the rear suspensions to that of RTR180
4.change the alloys to that to that of RTR180
now is this possible ??rather i should ask is this feasible????
my point of thinking this mods was just the increase of wheel base and 17"alloys would increase the stability of the bike during crosswinds...
i have come to this inference after riding a p180 classic and a p180 ug4 ....there was remarkable difference in the bikes note:- the ug4 was without the bikini fairing,it had the same classic round headlamp
would wait for your replies before jumping into the project.....
actually i am doing this for an upcoming kolkata - ladakh- kolkata trip during august .....so would like to mod first and then ride it here for shorter distances for at least another 5000km before taking her out to ladakh
thanks in advanceIts better to burn out than to fade away............Kurt Cobain
Thats the reason I am burning rubber with....www.theroadrollers.com
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Beautifully detailed and explained.Originally posted by julianpaul View Post.
Incorrect shifting, with or without the clutch, will damage the dog teeth on the driving gears and cause excessive wear or bend the shifter forks. It will work on all gears, much harder from 1st to 2nd though. You will need to blip the throttle and get the timing spot on. Some people use this method, but NEVER use the technique of keeping pressure on the shift lever, i.e. keep it lifted up, then chop the throttle so that it shifts. By keeping the lever lifted you are actuating the forks to slide the dogged gears, but since the gearbox is under load, it won't shift till you chop the throttle. This will cause severe wear or bend the forks. Once they're damaged, they won't be able to properly slide the gears in and you will have a lot of missed shifts and 'grinding' gears. The rtr gearbox is not particularly suited to clutchless shifting, i've been doing so on all my bikes from the RX, Boxer, RD, CBZ etc without any issues, but it's just not smooth on the rtr.
+1.
One more thing i would like to add is for clutchless shifts always shift at 8500-9000RPM, specially in RTR, as low RPM clutchless shift will give you a jerk and the bike takes a little rolling to actually get the gear "engaged".
The RTR shifts smooth clutchless, if shifted at 8500-9000-10000RPM, but not as the KB100 or the FIERO at higher revs but it's not bad.
Oops,Originally posted by julianpaul View Post.I think what he meant was since he's using a round headlight, he doesn't need pilots.
My BAD
1.RTR slides at the strong crosswinds, shifting to the RTR180's swingarm will improve it 0%, it's only few mm's long in length and practically they wont help in crosswind battle, so forget it.Originally posted by metalhead_aj View Post
i do a lot of touring and the bike literally dances in crosswinds....i have thought of a solution
1.change the swing arm to that of RTR180
2.change the chain sproket to that of RTR180
3.change the rear suspensions to that of RTR180
4.change the alloys to that to that of RTR180
now is this possible ??rather i should ask is this feasible????
my point of thinking this mods was just the increase of wheel base and 17"alloys would increase the stability of the bike during crosswinds...
i have come to this inference after riding a p180 classic and a p180 ug4 ....there was remarkable difference in the bikes note:- the ug4 was without the bikini fairing,it had the same classic round headlamp
2.Sproakets helps in gaining,accelerations,shaving off times,top speeds etc, and not for battling the croaawinds ,chain has nothing to do with it, so again it's useless.
3.The rear suspension of RTR180 is more stiffer than the 160 and it'll work best if fitted with the 'arm of the 180, but that will help on track and twisties, not when a "semi" will blast past you, still throwing you off the road.
4.The alloys are 500grms lighter than the 160 and are 17", again good for acceleration and track, not for the highway and crosswinds thingy, to battle the crosswinds you need long wheelbase(not by few mm's though) coupled with weight.
The pulsar's and RTR's bikiny fairing gives a shit to drag coeff. and cutting air, they are just for the novelty purpoes.
You felt the diff in both pulsars cuz the new one has elliptical beefy lengthened swingarm than the claasic one,plus it weights more.The Magician"
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thanx buddy for the quick reply
regarding the chain sproket thingy...i was planning it to compensate the longer swingarm....Its better to burn out than to fade away............Kurt Cobain
Thats the reason I am burning rubber with....www.theroadrollers.com
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it definitely does but the only prob is when in the GQ a dumbass scorpio overtakes youOriginally posted by rennycornelius View PostThe swingarm along with the shocks wont be worth the investment on the 160.
The RTR160 in stock form already rocks.

Its better to burn out than to fade away............Kurt Cobain
Thats the reason I am burning rubber with....www.theroadrollers.com
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Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
4.The alloys are 500grms lighter than the 160 and are 17", again good for acceleration and track, not for the highway and crosswinds thingy, to battle the crosswinds you need long wheelbase(not by few mm's though) coupled with weight.
RTR 180's front alloy is same as that of 160. rear wheel weights less because of smaller dia. and differance in weight of entire wheel assembly(wheel +tire) is beacause of tube.There's lot to it other than saddle....
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You mean cogs right?Originally posted by julianpaul View PostThe dogs are teeth on the sides of gears which engage into holes on other gears which in turn connect the input shaft to the output shaft in a constant mesh gearbox.07 HH Zma
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How to make the Exhaust sound more good??
I was thinking to cut open the conical shaped thing of the exhaust to see the arrangement inside the exhaust, and if it's running two pipes routing inside, i was thinking to cut one short or completely removing it, thus making it more freeflow type.....RESULT-MORE GROWLING SOUND
,and weld the conical thing back in place.
The Magician"
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Nope, i meant dogs as in dog teeth on the side of the driving gears on the input shaft which slot into holes on the side of the driven gears on the output shaft. Read up on constant mesh gearboxes to understand better. I've posted links earlier.Originally posted by onlinesatish View PostYou mean cogs right?
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