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  • #7336
    Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post
    Thanks for the pics. I do not understand as to what exactly was the symptom&what was done. Can you please explain in more detail as to what was the problem you faced&how you went about this?
    Please help me out as I have no mechanical knowledge&this needs to be done on my Fiero F2 also.
    If you would like to discuss over chat/mail me some pics, my id is [email protected]
    Well Sarvajit, my TVS mechanic screwed the settings of the valves at the time of decarb the head. He replaced the valve springs and he didn't grind the seats. So the valve couldn't close properly, thus the engine oil was leaking through it in combustion area. Result an oily plug, fouling, misfiring and above all loss of power pickup and bad mileage.



    So, wish is everything in case of me, if you want to try, I may help you over phone but you will have to work yourself. At any point you may ask for any help, as long as my knowledge goes, I will help.

    BTW what kind of problem you are facing right now with ur F2
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    • #7337
      Originally posted by kauria View Post
      Well Sarvajit, my TVS mechanic screwed the settings of the valves at the time of decarb the head. He replaced the valve springs and he didn't grind the seats. So the valve couldn't close properly, thus the engine oil was leaking through it in combustion area. Result an oily plug, fouling, misfiring and above all loss of power pickup and bad mileage.



      So, wish is everything in case of me, if you want to try, I may help you over phone but you will have to work yourself. At any point you may ask for any help, as long as my knowledge goes, I will help.

      BTW what kind of problem you are facing right now with ur F2

      Congo Kauria!
      Nice to see you jumping into it. When i worked on my Victor firsttime, i was unaware about setting cam timing, and ended up with damaged valves, which needed the replacement.

      Anyways, what valve clearances you are runnnig now?
      There's lot to it other than saddle....


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      • #7338
        Originally posted by kauria View Post
        Well Sarvajit, my TVS mechanic screwed the settings of the valves at the time of decarb the head. He replaced the valve springs and he didn't grind the seats. So the valve couldn't close properly, thus the engine oil was leaking through it in combustion area. Result an oily plug, fouling, misfiring and above all loss of power pickup and bad mileage.



        So, wish is everything in case of me, if you want to try, I may help you over phone but you will have to work yourself. At any point you may ask for any help, as long as my knowledge goes, I will help.

        BTW what kind of problem you are facing right now with ur F2
        Thanks for the explanation. At present, I have no problem other than a leaking oil seal. But since we are opening the head, we decided to decarb it&get valve lapping done if necessary. That is where my doubt begins.
        This will be done in TVS authorized SVC with my trusty old mech.of 5 years.
        Please reply to my PM with your no., I am sending mine in it.
        Quench my thirst with gasoline!

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        • #7339
          Good work done kauria
          The Magician"

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          • #7340
            Originally posted by nox2505 View Post
            Congo Kauria!
            Nice to see you jumping into it. When i worked on my Victor firsttime, i was unaware about setting cam timing, and ended up with damaged valves, which needed the replacement.

            Anyways, what valve clearances you are runnnig now?
            Thanks NOX, it is same as ou told me 0.06 & 0.08 mm.
            Thanks Renny..
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            • #7341
              Originally posted by sooraj_vs View Post
              Ok, I agree. But I still have doubt. When the wheel rotates more no. of times, it boosts top speed. But it should either maintain or drop accelaration. Otherwise, if both can be boosted, then why not make the ratio so small that it gives tremendous performance advantage..?

              PS : Should we take it to the Sprockets thread..?
              On even ground..straight plane, the engine power is adequate,to pull even with lower ratios....but try to climb an inclination with load..then you will understand why the Gear and Final ratios were designed to be taller.A bike with narrow ratio will stall on a climb with indicated load...so it is all about grade ability......the ability to climb steep grades require taller ratios.
              When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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              • #7342
                At last got rid of the Saree guard and also removed the rubber part of the foot peg of pillion..there is the aluminum part which looks cool!


                Next: Removal of the hideous rim tapes!
                Speak Less,Speak Wise!

                Sarcasm is my automatic response to stupidity.

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                • #7343
                  RTR/Fi

                  Kauria congrats on your D I Y....Necessity is the mother of invention..you have invented your own capability to do the engine setting,even though you have not studied engineering... Fortune favors the brave and wise. Good Luck to you.
                  When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                  • #7344
                    Originally posted by kauria View Post
                    Thanks NOX, it is same as ou told me 0.06 & 0.08 mm.
                    Thanks Renny..

                    Currently i have set mine as 0.07 and 0.1. Engine is free revving, with better acceleration and engine feels comfy in red line also.
                    next i am planning to try 0.06 and 0.1.

                    Will go to innovative TVS today to buy carb minifold (Pipe complete intake : M7040730) of RTR 180.
                    Reason:Old minifold is not perfectly compatible with new BS29 carb.
                    Last edited by nox2505; 11-26-2010, 09:48 AM.
                    There's lot to it other than saddle....


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                    • #7345
                      0.07 intake and 0.01 exhaust?

                      Right NOX?
                      will be setting the tappets at this too.
                      The Magician"

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                      • #7346
                        Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
                        0.07 intake and 0.01 exhaust?

                        Right NOX?
                        will be setting the tappets at this too.
                        Renny it is 0.07 inlet and 0.11 Exhaust as per Service manual...you have a typo error.
                        When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                        • #7347
                          Thanks PSR.
                          @ NOX: Where did you got the .07 & .11 gauges, I am unable to get those, the gauges I show here only have the .06 & .08 other 8 plates are not for my bike. Can you provide me a piece of those feeler gauges please? That will be a big help for further adjustments.

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                          • #7348
                            Originally posted by kauria View Post
                            Thanks PSR.
                            @ NOX: Where did you got the .07 & .11 gauges, I am unable to get those, the gauges I show here only have the .06 & .08 other 8 plates are not for my bike. Can you provide me a piece of those feeler gauges please? That will be a big help for further adjustments.

                            @ I have following gauge strips.
                            0.06
                            0.07
                            0.08
                            0.1

                            I haven't bought the feeler gauge set as you have.
                            I bought individual strips from hardware shop in ghatkopar. each strip is 1' long. I cut them in two parts kept one as spare and use one.
                            Cost of each is 35 or 40 here in mumbai.

                            You can get them in any good hardware shop (generally, shop which supply to companies or shops in industrial estates). Ask for Feeler Gauge strips and not feeler gauge.

                            Posting here a sample googled photo for referance. Just check out whether you get them locally. Otherwise PM me with the thickness required. i can buy new strips you want and courier you the same. The investment is worth it.
                            Last edited by nox2505; 11-26-2010, 01:06 PM.
                            There's lot to it other than saddle....


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                            • #7349
                              Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
                              0.07 intake and 0.01 exhaust?

                              Right NOX?
                              will be setting the tappets at this too.
                              thats not 0.01 but 0.1.
                              That was as per old specs.

                              The specs has been revised and are 0.06 and 0.08 with service limit of 0.08 and 0.1.
                              But i found the loss of Top end on engine heat up( after ripping at 100-105 for 50-60 kms)

                              hence running 0.07 and 0.1 now.
                              There's lot to it other than saddle....


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                              • #7350
                                Originally posted by nox2505 View Post
                                thats not 0.01 but 0.1.
                                That was as per old specs.

                                The specs has been revised and are 0.06 and 0.08 with service limit of 0.08 and 0.1.
                                But i found the loss of Top end on engine heat up( after ripping at 100-105 for 50-60 kms)

                                hence running 0.07 and 0.1 now.
                                Ok .
                                I got it set today at 0.07 inlet and 0.1 exhaust.
                                The bike is running more "free" now.

                                __________________________________________________ ____________

                                Got the tank cleaned today, it had only the upper side rusted, but no that much, got it cleaned with timing chain ( ! ), screw driver, cloth and cotton.
                                After clean up flushed the tank with petrol 4 times.
                                the tank is like new now.
                                The Magician"

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