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**chicane1879** · 01-05-2011, 10:42 PM

Originally posted by haxor View Post

Self Start had gone kaput.Took bike to a doctor,they said that the Roller(I guess) has gone kaput and is of old design.
Bought a new one of new design.

New one costs .1187

Just blew off my months 1.5 months fuel allowance.

It's the One-way clutch!!

**haxor** · 01-05-2011, 10:52 PM

Originally posted by chicane1879 View Post

It's the One-way clutch!!

Yeah its written on the Box in which it came.But the mechanic said that it is creating problem.
Another mechanic said me that in the old model there is some lack in tension in the spring and something,new model is the advanced version of it.

lets see what happens,will get it fixed tomorrow.

**utsavchs** · 01-06-2011, 01:06 AM

One query, Is Hyper edge's height little more than RTR or the normal Apache (old).
I had just kept it beside another, but the HE(mine) was looking bigger just in height, din't see the length. Also the HE's exhaust sound is better (sounds very good) RPM-ed it at my enclosed garage, my heart ached even the glass panes rattled.

Also noticed a little bit difference in the engine as it has a cylinder typo thing which I never saw any other bike (dint checkout other Apache).

Attaching an image of the cylinder thingy.

**tusharsmoily** · 01-06-2011, 02:06 AM

Hey all XBHPians, my name is Tushar and I am from Thane,Mumbai but currently I am doing Mechanical Engineering in Mangalore,Karnataka.

I have a RTR160 carburetor model.

Here is my query---
I came to Mangalore on July 2010 and currently I am in Mangalore only. My bike is parked since then at my house i.e at Thane. No one rides my bike as my dad does'nt know to ride a bike. However he ocasionally called a friend of mine to just warm up my bike and to take it for a(say) 200m ride. My dad said that the battery is fully down and petrol seems to be completely evaporated from the fuel tank!!
Ill be going to Thane on 28th January 2011 for holidays as my semester exam are getting over on 27th! And I know its gonna be a one heck of a job to start up my bike:-D:-D

Can you guys tell me what all should I do to start my bike properly? Should I change the engine oil? If yes then which? Any other measures/precautions?

Kindly help experts and all.
Thanks in advance.

And btw, HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL!!

**haxor** · 01-06-2011, 02:20 AM

Originally posted by tusharsmoily View Post

Hey all XBHPians, my name is Tushar and I am from Thane,Mumbai but currently I am doing Mechanical Engineering in Mangalore,Karnataka.

I have a RTR160 carburetor model.

Here is my query---
I came to Mangalore on July 2010 and currently I am in Mangalore only. My bike is parked since then at my house i.e at Thane. No one rides my bike as my dad does'nt know to ride a bike. However he ocasionally called a friend of mine to just warm up my bike and to take it for a(say) 200m ride. My dad said that the battery is fully down and petrol seems to be completely evaporated from the fuel tank!!
Ill be going to Thane on 28th January 2011 for holidays as my semester exam are getting over on 27th! And I know its gonna be a one heck of a job to start up my bike:-D:-D

Can you guys tell me what all should I do to start my bike properly? Should I change the engine oil? If yes then which? Any other measures/precautions?

Kindly help experts and all.
Thanks in advance.

And btw, HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL!!

Well,I have read somewhere on this forum on how to store your bike,when you wont be riding it for a long time.
Disconnect the battery and drain out the engine out and keep it in a clean bottle,drain out all the petrol.
And whenever you want to ride your bike,you can just undo those stuffs and enjoy your bike.If you dont want to do any of that stuff,you can just kick-start and keep it on idling rpm for 1-2 mins once in every 5 days.

**tusharsmoily** · 01-06-2011, 02:25 AM

Originally posted by haxor View Post

Well,I have read somewhere on this forum on how to store your bike,when you wont be riding it for a long time.
Disconnect the battery and drain out the engine out and keep it in a clean bottle,drain out all the petrol.
And whenever you want to ride your bike,you can just undo those stuffs and enjoy your bike.If you dont want to do any of that stuff,you can just kick-start and keep it on idling rpm for 1-2 mins once in every 5 days.

Sorry if it's a noob question, but...
Will my bike give me less mileage if ill be riding it after a long time? If yes then how do I restore it?

**haxor** · 01-06-2011, 02:28 AM

Originally posted by tusharsmoily View Post

Sorry if it's a noob question, but...
Will my bike give me less mileage if ill be riding it after a long time? If yes then how do I restore it?

I dont think that will happen.

**nox2505** · 01-06-2011, 10:16 AM

Originally posted by Puneet1 View Post

hyperedge has same wheelbase as previous RTR 160's at 1300 mm . the 180 only has a longer wheelbase .

nox do you think rtr 180's swinarm can be fit on 160's if i also change sprockets and chain . suspension spring will remain same . i just feel rtr 160 will feel more stable with a longer wheelbase and im also thinking of getting joel's big bore kit .

Yes it can be fitted in 160's. If its rear disc version, the job will be bolt on. But if its Drum version, you need to to do following things:
1. get a bracket with hole welded onto right arm for retraction spring.
2. elongate the brake rod and brake tension rod.

considering stability , frankly speaking, expences won't be worth enough if you are planning to get new parts, its your decision though.
If suspensions are kept stock, It will be softer ride. Also, keeping the 18" wheel configuration may result in rear wheel rubbing against mudguard while riding with heavy pillion. This may need change of mud guard. With 18" wheel and RTR180's sprocket kit, you will get taller gearing-for this, stock sprockets can be retained. Simpler solution is just elongate the chain or buy chain only.

Originally posted by utsavchs View Post

One query, Is Hyper edge's height little more than RTR or the normal Apache (old).
I had just kept it beside another, but the HE(mine) was looking bigger just in height, din't see the length. Also the HE's exhaust sound is better (sounds very good) RPM-ed it at my enclosed garage, my heart ached even the glass panes rattled.

Also noticed a little bit difference in the engine as it has a cylinder typo thing which I never saw any other bike (dint checkout other Apache).

Attaching an image of the cylinder thingy.

Cylinder is same, please highlight the area which you spotted to be different. Height is also same.

Originally posted by tusharsmoily View Post

Hey all XBHPians, my name is Tushar and I am from Thane,Mumbai but currently I am doing Mechanical Engineering in Mangalore,Karnataka.

I have a RTR160 carburetor model.

Here is my query---
I came to Mangalore on July 2010 and currently I am in Mangalore only. My bike is parked since then at my house i.e at Thane. No one rides my bike as my dad does'nt know to ride a bike. However he ocasionally called a friend of mine to just warm up my bike and to take it for a(say) 200m ride. My dad said that the battery is fully down and petrol seems to be completely evaporated from the fuel tank!!
Ill be going to Thane on 28th January 2011 for holidays as my semester exam are getting over on 27th! And I know its gonna be a one heck of a job to start up my bike:-D:-D

Can you guys tell me what all should I do to start my bike properly? Should I change the engine oil? If yes then which? Any other measures/precautions?

Kindly help experts and all.
Thanks in advance.

And btw, HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL!!

Just change engine oil and filter, charge the battery, clean the carb, inflate tires, fill in Go Go Juice and you are set to go.

**tusharsmoily** · 01-06-2011, 11:42 AM

Thanks a lot guys. I have one more query.
Actually the exhaust canister (i.e the tip of the whole exhaust) is not the original stock one. Its like the original gas been cut off and replaced/welded by some different canister(my bike is second hand and it was like that only since the purchase). The new canister is like that of Mahindra rodeo's silencer having a protruding pipe like thing but slightly smaller. As a result mt RTR does have that stock freeflowish throaty exhaust note. Sorry guys I cant show any pics because im in Mangalore, hope you guys can visualise how my bike's silencer is:-)

Will my current exhaust affect my bike's performance and mileage? My bike goes jus 130(on speedo) on downhill when im crouched :-(

**kauria** · 01-06-2011, 11:50 AM

Originally posted by onlinesatish View Post

Would be much of a problem unless ur are hell bent in pickup. With 100/90 pick up would a bit lesser than 100/80. But you get a taller gearing and infact a bit more FE. I used to run on 110/80 Vee rubber. it used to scrap under side of the mudgaurd just below the seat. That was more related to the messed up ahin/rear wheel aligment. Goahead with the change, you would'nt have any problem!

P.s - my bike is 61k kms old now, i have lubricated the swing arm bushes till now

!

Thanks Satish

Originally posted by nox2505 View Post

There is nothing to lubricate in it. Those screws are real and need to be loosen by help of a pipe roughly 1.5' long. Get 17mm box spanner bit(if you dont have) for your T-Handle. It will be help full.
Once you remove the pivot Bolt, just pull out the swing arm. Then get the rubber bushes changed from machinist (using hydraulic press is prefered) and put back every thing. You can check whether bushes really need change by taking foot print of chassis. Cos generally, the bushes last for 70-75k(5-6 years) or so. However, they may last less if the roads are bumpy.

Symptoms of the swing arm bushes requiring change:
1. Swing arm shifted to one side- will be clear by foot print
2. Bike feeling unstable (wobbles) over corners.
3. To confirm before dis- assembly, Disconnect the suspensions and brake link in case of drum brake and try displacing the wheel side to side. If it is felt, the bushes need replacement.

Nox, I was planning to make the rear tubeless, what are the mods needed. Any one here convert RTR tyre to tubeless, if our standard alloy wheel is capable enough to seal the air. I am in doubt.

Please put some light..

KB

**utsavchs** · 01-06-2011, 12:14 PM

I meant this part.
Marked in the picture I uploaded.

**indianz_alive** · 01-06-2011, 12:55 PM

Originally posted by utsavchs View Post

I meant this part.
Marked in the picture I uploaded.

Its the Starter Motor (The Self Start thingy).

Originally posted by kauria View Post

I was planning to make the rear tubeless, what are the mods needed. Any one here convert RTR tyre to tubeless, if our standard alloy wheel is capable enough to seal the air. I am in doubt.

Please put some light..

KB

If you are planning to convert stock TVS tyres to tubeless, then it's not recommended. I had done this 1.5 yrs back and observed that the rear tire was losing its flesh faster. The air pressure tends to decrease a bit faster due to knurling given at the inner edges of stock tire. However, they can still be converted to tubeless but need frequent air pressure check-up.
On the other hand, front was holding good to alloy & needed less frequent air pressure check-up.

About RTR alloys, they are very much capable of holding tubeless tires.
4 months back I had changed front one to IRC tubeless, and the air pressure has never dropped under 22 psi.

The only mods needed are to fit tubeless tire nozzle in alloys which comes in various varieties (Silicon rubber based, steel, brass etc.) with different costs. I used a stainless steel nozzle in front alloy.
Also, you need a skill upgradation to fix tubeless tire punctures

A the moment, the rear Zap-Q is also demanding replacement, which I will do with a good tubeless one soon.

**nox2505** · 01-06-2011, 01:24 PM

Originally posted by kauria View Post

Thanks Satish

Nox, I was planning to make the rear tubeless, what are the mods needed. Any one here convert RTR tyre to tubeless, if our standard alloy wheel is capable enough to seal the air. I am in doubt.

Please put some light..

KB

They are very much capable. I am running front tubeless Zapper-FS (soon will be due for change)
Used geo-Cruiser as tubeless (yeahh.... right Dunlop wala Geo-Cruiser

)
Now running Tubeless Pilot sporty.

No Mods. What you will need is tubeless tyre and Valve.

@ indiaz_alive: I think repairing tubeless puncture is way simpler and faster than tube type as long as you have intact wheel

.

**indianz_alive** · 01-06-2011, 02:28 PM

Originally posted by nox2505 View Post

@ indianz_alive: I think repairing tubeless puncture is way simpler and faster than tube type as long as you have intact wheel

.

Correctomondo

, but one needs skill to fix puncture of front one. Mechanics have a hard time to keep the tire hugged to alloy once they are totally deflated. You can't ride, you can't pull the bike if the front goes flat.

**tusharsmoily** · 01-06-2011, 03:33 PM

Originally posted by tusharsmoily View Post

Thanks a lot guys. I have one more query.
Actually the exhaust canister (i.e the tip of the whole exhaust) is not the original stock one. Its like the original gas been cut off and replaced/welded by some different canister(my bike is second hand and it was like that only since the purchase). The new canister is like that of Mahindra rodeo's silencer having a protruding pipe like thing but slightly smaller. As a result mt RTR does have that stock freeflowish throaty exhaust note. Sorry guys I cant show any pics because im in Mangalore, hope you guys can visualise how my bike's silencer is:-)

Will my current exhaust affect my bike's performance and mileage? My bike goes jus 130(on speedo) on downhill when im crouched :-(

Guys please answer my query!!!!

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