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  • #1696
    Originally posted by insanebiker View Post
    Errrr... Power 1 is semi synthetic , while Power 1 racing is Fully Synthetic
    I deliberately don't use the term "semi-synth" as it may not be worth more than a marketing gimmick...

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    • #1697
      Originally posted by Raccoon View Post
      I deliberately don't use the term "semi-synth" as it may not be worth more than a marketing gimmick...
      Wat was that supposed to mean?

      U mean to say that Semi Synths dont exist?
      When everything comes ur way, u r in the wrong way ;)

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      • #1698
        Sigh... have said this times before - No, its not like they dont exist. But have you see a single oil company mentioning the percentage of synthetic component? Of what kind of synthetic base oil they use?? No they dont! So the joke is, even if they put in 1 drop, any oil can qualify as semi-synthetic! Actually wait, they dont even need that 1 drop - just the additives are enough to make the oil qualify, as they are synthetic!

        I'm not saying that semi-synth dosent exisit or it dosent matter. It might! But its a grey area... and its so grey that you shouldn't base your buying decision just because of the fact that there is a semi-synth label on the bottle!!

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        • #1699
          Originally posted by Raccoon View Post
          Sigh... have said this times before - No, its not like they dont exist. But have you see a single oil company mentioning the percentage of synthetic component? Of what kind of synthetic base oil they use?? No they dont! So the joke is, even if they put in 1 drop, any oil can qualify as semi-synthetic! Actually wait, they dont even need that 1 drop - just the additives are enough to make the oil qualify, as they are synthetic!

          I'm not saying that semi-synth dosent exisit or it dosent matter. It might! But its a grey area... and its so grey that you shouldn't base your buying decision just because of the fact that there is a semi-synth label on the bottle!!
          But what my experience says is, that Semi synths were defiinitely better than Mineral ones (I am not talking about P1 here, mind u, but VP4T,Veedol,etc.) atleast for me .

          Going by your logic, how will u make out that the Fully Synthetic Oil which u buy paying much more is truly synthetic? Even that can contain a drop of , errrrr, forget it
          When everything comes ur way, u r in the wrong way ;)

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          • #1700
            Well, if they are really good, its good! You can use them!! Just don't use/buy or think that they are better just because it says semi-synth!

            As for your doubt about fully synth, it is actually justified! Now hydro-cracked oils can also be called fully synthetic. Legally they can be called thus... but technically they are not synthetic!

            Now see the fun - companies are now labelling these pseudo synthetics as fully synthetic oils. Just as an eg. BPCL says its HH oil is hydro-cracked! So it can be labelled as fully-synth, legally. But it is not. And what is funnier is that many people are saying that the BPCL HH oil is the worst HH oil available.

            Strange, funny and not at all straight forward, eh? Thats the oil business... damn gooey stuff. And there is lots more from where it came from...
            Last edited by Raccoon; 03-27-2009, 02:43 AM.

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            • #1701
              Oh sorry, I think I am in wrong thread, is that RTR ownership thread
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              • #1702
                Originally posted by razorBlades View Post
                I have used power1, power1 racing, true4 and motul.

                the best of the lot is motul 15w50 (not 5w40). p1 racing is awesome if you are a red liner.. the bike breathes very freely even when compared to motul. But it drains quickly around 2.5k kms.. I have used motul for 4k+ kms and the oil was still good!

                what about those "vibes "......
                they got dissappear or got less after using tht power1 racing or not......??
                The Magician"

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                • #1703
                  @renny: regarding vibes in rtr, motul was better in reducing it. p1 racing is however way better than mineral oil!
                  A good long ride can clear your mind, restore your faith, and use up a lot of fuel.

                  Always be ready (get geared) to fall and then think of sitting on the motorcycle.


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                  • #1704
                    Originally posted by razorBlades View Post
                    @renny: regarding vibes in rtr, motul was better in reducing it. p1 racing is however way better than mineral oil!
                    Which Motul? Did u mean 5100, i think its 15w50, where the manual says 20w40, what u say?

                    Once I have tried it, but it didnt last more then 3000 km, at the end the clutch was doing bit problem, but when next day I switch to ELF its again ok.

                    Share your views.
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                    • #1705
                      Originally posted by razorBlades View Post
                      @renny: regarding vibes in rtr, motul was better in reducing it. p1 racing is however way better than mineral oil!
                      is it 20w40 or of some other rating........
                      The Magician"

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                      • #1706
                        Originally posted by kauria View Post
                        Which Motul? Did u mean 5100, i think its 15w50, where the manual says 20w40, what u say?

                        Once I have tried it, but it didnt last more then 3000 km, at the end the clutch was doing bit problem, but when next day I switch to ELF its again ok.

                        Share your views.

                        Which bike kauria? the apache or the rtr? Motul3 00V lasted perfectly for over 5k kms on my Apache. It would have lasted more had i not been impatient and unsure
                        R.I.P kriss.

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                        • #1707
                          Originally posted by sai_ace View Post
                          Motul3 00V lasted perfectly for over 5k kms on my Apache. It would have lasted more had i not been impatient and unsure
                          is it 20W40 or of some other grade???????
                          wats the cost??????
                          The Magician"

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                          • #1708
                            Originally posted by kauria View Post
                            Which Motul? Did u mean 5100, i think its 15w50, where the manual says 20w40, what u say?

                            Once I have tried it, but it didnt last more then 3000 km, at the end the clutch was doing bit problem, but when next day I switch to ELF its again ok.

                            Share your views.
                            Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
                            is it 20w40 or of some other rating........
                            It was 300v 15w50. I had a very good run of 4300kms.. I changed the oil even though it was good!

                            people say there are few additives which you can mix with oil too.. it reduces the vibrations further! I have not personally tried them though!

                            I bought it for 650 bucks! (some reduction and no clue why! ) the actual cost is 750 bucks now!
                            Last edited by razorBlades; 03-27-2009, 11:37 AM.
                            A good long ride can clear your mind, restore your faith, and use up a lot of fuel.

                            Always be ready (get geared) to fall and then think of sitting on the motorcycle.


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                            • #1709
                              Originally posted by razorBlades View Post
                              It was 300v 15w50. I had a very good run of 4300kms.. I changed the oil even though it was good!

                              people say there are few additives which you can mix with oil too.. it reduces the vibrations further! I have not personally tried them though!

                              I bought it for 650 bucks! (some reduction and no clue why! ) the actual cost is 750 bucks now!
                              Its has again come down.... got a 300v 15w50 bottle yesterday for 680rs...
                              and 5100 15W50 semi-synthetic is 380rs... its almost same (as 300v-if not better) ... but the drain interval should be around 3k AFAIK.
                              Last edited by chetanpulsar; 03-27-2009, 11:44 AM.
                              Chetan

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                              • #1710
                                Originally posted by sai_ace View Post
                                Which bike kauria? the apache or the rtr? Motul3 00V lasted perfectly for over 5k kms on my Apache. It would have lasted more had i not been impatient and unsure
                                I have a RTR 2008 Feb model without tank scoop & full chain cover.I personlly found ELF MOTO4 GOLD is better then Motul 5100 & Gulf Pride 4t. Never try VP4T or 300v.
                                Any other good oil u have in ur list.
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