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  • Nothing drains the battery like the starter. If the starter is fine and the horns are working it's definitely not the battery. I think renny had the same problem and fixed it by setting the horn adjusters.

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    • If one of the cell of the battery has become weaker, and bike is in regular use, the battery will take load of starter. Only thing is there will be drop in voltage. Starter will rotate slower but engine being in perfect tune up state, will come to life. Horns are good reflectors of battery state. Little here and there in voltage and they will sound differently. What renny did by tunning is making horns to run on lower voltage. In your case also, if you do the same, problem will be solved. If teh horns are set for lower voltage, they will work in same manner on higher voltage also. But, their life will reduce. I have spoiled 3 sets of horns on my fiat and 2 horns on my victor because of that.
      There's lot to it other than saddle....


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      • Originally posted by kauria View Post
        Even after that also, I tried all these things first and then write it here. Nowadays I also found some sulpher marks near battery box. What does this mean. My battery is stock & 2.4 months old. Previously never see the sulpher patches.
        Originally posted by julianpaul View Post
        Nothing drains the battery like the starter. If the starter is fine and the horns are working it's definitely not the battery. I think renny had the same problem and fixed it by setting the horn adjusters.
        Then the horns need adjustment.
        Set the high one first, in my case it was the culprit.
        The Magician"

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        • Originally posted by nox2505 View Post
          If one of the cell of the battery has become weaker, and bike is in regular use, the battery will take load of starter. Only thing is there will be drop in voltage. Starter will rotate slower but engine being in perfect tune up state, will come to life. Horns are good reflectors of battery state. Little here and there in voltage and they will sound differently. What renny did by tunning is making horns to run on lower voltage. In your case also, if you do the same, problem will be solved. If teh horns are set for lower voltage, they will work in same manner on higher voltage also. But, their life will reduce. I have spoiled 3 sets of horns on my fiat and 2 horns on my victor because of that.


          +1 Nox, I was thinking the same. After using the starter, for sometime horn sounds odd, but regain its power within few minutes, as the engine moves.
          Can you give me some idea how to fix a relay in RTR's horn crcuit.

          Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
          Then the horns need adjustment.
          Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
          Set the high one first, in my case it was the culprit.



          Although Renny thanks for your suggestion.
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            • Originally posted by Technocrat View Post
              what happened? moving to a bigger bike?
              A good long ride can clear your mind, restore your faith, and use up a lot of fuel.

              Always be ready (get geared) to fall and then think of sitting on the motorcycle.


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              • Originally posted by indianz_alive View Post
                Guys, do try to measure the same in your respective steeds. I wish it's not an abnormal thing.
                i tried that finger test. on the saree gurad side, it was tight(my pinky barely made it through the gap)
                on the silencer side, ring and pinky went through with some effort
                If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough - Albert Einstein

                I think i know less than what you think i know.

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                • Originally posted by nox2505 View Post
                  If one of the cell of the battery has become weaker, and bike is in regular use, the battery will take load of starter. Only thing is there will be drop in voltage. Starter will rotate slower but engine being in perfect tune up state, will come to life. Horns are good reflectors of battery state. Little here and there in voltage and they will sound differently. What renny did by tunning is making horns to run on lower voltage. In your case also, if you do the same, problem will be solved. If teh horns are set for lower voltage, they will work in same manner on higher voltage also. But, their life will reduce. I have spoiled 3 sets of horns on my fiat and 2 horns on my victor because of that.
                  This is useful info bro. Cheers

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                  • how can we set the horns ?

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                    • Originally posted by nox2505 View Post
                      What renny did by tunning is making horns to run on lower voltage. In your case also, if you do the same, problem will be solved. If teh horns are set for lower voltage, they will work in same manner on higher voltage also. But, their life will reduce. I have spoiled 3 sets of horns on my fiat and 2 horns on my victor because of that.
                      Though i set it, i never knew i'am making them run on lower voltage, that was news and a good one...i'll revert them back to the original setting now (i counted the rotations of setting)
                      thanks for the info bro..

                      Originally posted by kauria View Post
                      Renny I don’t think i need to play with the horn settings. Tell my why then it’s OK, when no indicator or starter is used. It does happen only after using starter & S indicator, single & Both at a time.
                      Although Renny thanks for your suggestion.
                      As NOX suggested, setting the horns will eat them up, so stay away from it.
                      Last edited by rennycornelius; 06-04-2010, 10:11 PM.
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                      • hi friends i am posting this query on behalf my friend.
                        his mind is very much inclined towards apache among all the bikes present in the market at the moment.
                        but his confusion is to select which one i.e he is confused between 160,160fi and 180.?
                        he is a daily commuter and will use the bike daily for minimum 70-75kms and even more. among which 25-30 kms will be highway.
                        as u all own this bike and know about its relaiability and milage and maintenence etc etc please provide an input by suggesting which one to go for.. and please if possible kindly let me know the pros and cons of all the 3 models and also the milage.
                        thanks in advance
                        regards
                        gaurav.
                        Last edited by gaurav_gaumzy; 06-05-2010, 01:03 AM.
                        I'd rather Be Rid!nG My BIKE anD THinK!NG oF GoD rAtHEr thaN Sitt!ng !n ChuRCh aNd THiNk!NG of MY B!ke

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                        • So should I go for battery replacement.
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                          • Wiring for horn relay

                            I am currently running the 3A Hella horns, good enough to deafen idiot truck drivers
                            I used IGN +ve from one horn to run horn relay and IGN +ve from another to drive headlamp switch(ultimately headlamp relay, which is on -ve circuit of lamp. Lamp is -ve controlled i.e. reverse current flow in bulb than stock wiring which results in brighter beam).
                            Orange wire to horn is IGN +ve and green is -ve via horn switch in case of any TVS vehicle(atleast scooty,victor and RTR).
                            As there was no other nice palce to mount the horn relay, I have mounted it under the seat, where ECU is fitted in Fi RTR. RTR-fi owners can mount it under fuel tank, where SAI solenoid is mounted (take care that any wire do not touch the engine head).

                            Benefits:
                            1. Power supply to horns without any losses.
                            2. Longer Life of Horns,switches and IGN switch also.
                            3. Heavy current flow is transfered to thicker wires from stock company wires.

                            here are the photos and wiring diagram for relay.
                            Last edited by nox2505; 06-05-2010, 10:22 AM.
                            There's lot to it other than saddle....


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                            • Hey guys, i'm Tushar Moily. I own a rtr 160 carburetor model.
                              My handle bar starts wobbling as I touch 65kmph, and the wobbling dissapears as soon as i cross 74kmph....do any of you guys experience the same problem..??..pls reply soon..

                              Thank You.
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                              I love biking because it gives me experience close to that of FLYING.
                              Last edited by TusharMoily; 06-05-2010, 02:21 PM. Reason: forgot to type sumthng..

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                              • Originally posted by TusharMoily View Post
                                Hey guys, i'm Tushar Moily. I own a rtr 160 carburetor model.
                                My handle bar starts wobbling as I touch 65kmph, and the wobbling dissapears as soon as i cross 74kmph....do any of you guys experience the same problem..??..pls reply soon..
                                Thank You.
                                I love biking because it gives me experience close to that of FLYING.
                                Vibrations are integral part of the Apaches. Yes, we all(RTR 160, FI and 180 riders) face the same. Learn to live it.

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