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  • #6661
    RTRs dont have a good resale value in this part of the world, thanks to two things
    1) Known to be a bike which will be surely used\abused a lot
    2) The spares arent available everywhere and hence the issue#1 becomes even more of a problem

    lol I sold my i wonder how many years old passion for 28k

    Dont over react on point 2 though, I will use the analogy that WinZee gave to me once.

    On thier Leh trip, Rachit (ZMA) Gopi (RTR) and WinZee (P150) had to relube and service somewhere.
    Attitude of HH guy
    - Premium customer, made to stay in AC, lets fleece him good!

    Attitude of TVS guy
    - Some tools not available, made to wait and done a decent job

    Attitude of the Bajaj guy
    - Why they hell are you here for such a small job, you better go to a roadside mechanic who has both the tools, the spares and most importantly the time to do this chota mota work!
    Last edited by satyenpoojary; 06-24-2010, 05:26 PM.
    Super CommuTOURer� - Talk less, Ride more

    .: FB :.|.: TW :.|*IG*| Ex     PowerDrift:.

    #Give thy opinion, write em, dont throw em
    #Everyone errs, accept it, defending/cribbing about it only makes it worse
    #Dont defend a manufacturer as if you work for them
    #Write. Think. If relevant hit submit. If not hit yourself
    #Be kind in your choice of words, you never know who would make you gulp em
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    • #6662
      Originally posted by Tron05 View Post
      30k for a RTR? damn!!! thats very low

      My mechanic was ready to buy my old 2005 discover dtsi for 25k.
      A good price should be around 35-40k
      If it would have been HH RTR, with just those 2 golden letters itched on the engine andtank and it would have fetched 45000-48000....

      Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post

      Attitude of HH guy
      - Premium customer, made to stay in AC, lets fleece him good!

      Attitude of TVS guy
      - Some tools not available, made to wait and done a decent job

      Attitude of the Bajaj guy
      - Why they hell are you here for such a small job, you better go to a roadside mechanic who has both the tools, the spares and most importantly the time to do this chota mota work!
      The Magician"

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      • #6663
        Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
        If it would have been HH RTR, with just those 2 golden letters itched on the engine andtank and it would have fetched 45000-48000....



        +1
        and why laughing, I purposely didnt say anything about the skills

        (Phew! I hope this ends here no more brand bashing, atleast I wont respond to it!)
        Super CommuTOURer� - Talk less, Ride more

        .: FB :.|.: TW :.|*IG*| Ex         PowerDrift:.

        #Give thy opinion, write em, dont throw em
        #Everyone errs, accept it, defending/cribbing about it only makes it worse
        #Dont defend a manufacturer as if you work for them
        #Write. Think. If relevant hit submit. If not hit yourself
        #Be kind in your choice of words, you never know who would make you gulp em
        � Satyen Poojary

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        • #6664
          @satyen: lol.. that was indeed a true story

          Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
          If it would have been HH RTR, with just those 2 golden letters itched on the engine andtank and it would have fetched 45000-48000....
          yeah man.. people sell fiero (suzuki) for 25k now and rtr for the same price
          A good long ride can clear your mind, restore your faith, and use up a lot of fuel.

          Always be ready (get geared) to fall and then think of sitting on the motorcycle.


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          • #6665
            Originally posted by razorBlades View Post

            yeah man.. people sell fiero (suzuki) for 25k now and rtr for the same price
            I sold my 8 years old "SUZUKI" fiero for 25500...
            The Magician"

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            • #6666
              Guys,
              Does sprocketing the front have any adverse effect on the bike?
              If not, then how much should be the ideal no tooth in the front?
              I want a balance of pick up increase and top speed increase..
              Stock RTR has 13 in the front.Right?
              And also do i have to remove or add links in the chain in order to accomodate the different sprocket ratio..?

              Regards,
              Pranab

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              • #6667
                Originally posted by kidoman View Post
                Guys,
                Does sprocketing the front have any adverse effect on the bike?
                If not, then how much should be the ideal no tooth in the front?
                I want a balance of pick up increase and top speed increase..
                Stock RTR has 13 in the front.Right?
                And also do i have to remove or add links in the chain in order to accomodate the different sprocket ratio..?

                Regards,
                Pranab
                Shaving the tooth from the front is equal to shaving two from rear, that's it.
                The more you'll shave (max 2-4) the better top end you'll get at the serious cost of acceleration and the more you'll add will give you better acceleration at the cost of efficiency and top speed.
                The Magician"

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                • #6668
                  Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
                  Shaving the tooth from the front is equal to shaving two from rear, that's it.
                  The more you'll shave (max 2-4) the better top end you'll get at the serious cost of acceleration and the more you'll add will give you better acceleration at the cost of efficiency and top speed.
                  Wrong! Adding in front or subtracting from rear will give better top speed and fuel efficiency, reducing acceleration and subtracting from front or adding in rear will give better acceleration at cost of top speed anf fuel efficiency.
                  There's lot to it other than saddle....


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                  • #6669
                    Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
                    Shaving the tooth from the front is equal to shaving two from rear, that's it.
                    The more you'll shave (max 2-4) the better top end you'll get at the serious cost of acceleration and the more you'll add will give you better acceleration at the cost of efficiency and top speed.
                    Hi Renny,

                    I thought shaving from the front increases acceleration and decreases top end..Correct me if i am wrong , plz..
                    Anyways what ratio would you advise me for a balanced increase in pick up and top end?

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                    • #6670
                      Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
                      Shaving the tooth from the front is equal to shaving two from rear, that's it.
                      The more you'll shave (max 2-4) the better top end you'll get at the serious cost of acceleration and the more you'll add will give you better acceleration at the cost of efficiency and top speed.
                      Hi Renny,

                      I thought shaving from the front increases acceleration and decreases top end..Correct me if i am wrong , plz..
                      Anyways what ratio would you advise me for a balanced increase in pick up and top end?

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                      • #6671
                        Originally posted by nox2505 View Post
                        Wrong! Adding in front or subtracting from rear will give better top speed and fuel efficiency, reducing acceleration and subtracting from front or adding in rear will give better acceleration at cost of top speed anf fuel efficiency.
                        My point was:

                        if the rear is the stock and if i'am gonna shave one tooth off the front then it'll be same as maintaining the stock front and shaving off two from the rear.

                        If the front is stock and shaving the tooths from the rear will increase top speed, thereby keeping the overall RPM of the bike low, thus better fuel efficiency, and if the front again is stock and if i'am gonna add tooths to the rear, it'll give me better acceleration and lower top speed.

                        more tooths in front= better top speed (with stock rear)
                        Less tooth in front= better acceleration(with stock rear)

                        i cleared all my sproaketing doubt with my HERO's 18 geared cycle


                        Originally posted by kidoman View Post
                        Hi Renny,

                        I thought shaving from the front increases acceleration and decreases top end..Correct me if i am wrong , plz..
                        Anyways what ratio would you advise me for a balanced increase in pick up and top end?
                        i'll recommend you to maintain the stock front and shave off 1-2 tooth from the rear.
                        but start with one tooth.
                        The Magician"

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                        • #6672
                          Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
                          My point was:

                          if the rear is the stock and if i'am gonna shave one tooth off the front then it'll be same as maintaining the stock front and shaving(NO! front shaving is rear adding) off two from the rear.

                          If the front is stock and shaving the tooths from the rear will increase top speed, thereby keeping the overall RPM of the bike low, thus better fuel efficiency, and if the front again is stock and if i'am gonna add tooths to the rear, it'll give me better acceleration and lower top speed.-this is correct

                          more tooths in front= better top speed (with stock rear)
                          Less tooth in front= better acceleration(with stock rear)

                          This is also correct

                          i cleared all my sproaketing doubt with my HERO's 18 geared cycle


                          i'll recommend you to maintain the stock front and shave off 1-2 tooth from the rear.
                          but start with one tooth.
                          Answers/comments in bold.
                          There's lot to it other than saddle....


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                          • #6673
                            Originally posted by kidoman View Post
                            Hi Renny,

                            I thought shaving from the front increases acceleration and decreases top end..Correct me if i am wrong , plz..
                            Anyways what ratio would you advise me for a balanced increase in pick up and top end?

                            If you dont want to lose current acceleration, and balanced output, stick to stock.
                            There's lot to it other than saddle....


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                            • #6674
                              Thanks Renny..

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                              • #6675
                                Originally posted by kidoman View Post
                                Anyways what ratio would you advise me for a balanced increase in pick up and top end?
                                If you mean balanced, nothing betters the company's stock ratio.

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