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Re: Karizma/Karizma R Ownership Experience
Brother how good is the body parts from safexbikes?Originally posted by varun_m View Post
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Re: Karizma/Karizma R Ownership Experience
I own a ZMA R 2012 july model (about 1.7 lac kms on ODO).
I had an issue of engine oil drain, if I ride speeds above 90. So decided to get the bore changed and also few more things fixed.
Major Changes include
1. Bore kit
2. Gear wheels (2, 3, 4 and 5)
3. Complete body kit apart from fuel tank (Ordered from Safex)
4. Drum plate of rear wheel
5. front Disk and disk pads.
Other misc parts including cables, fuses, plug etc.
More details soon.
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Re: Karizma/Karizma R Ownership Experience
Hi. I'm Abhilash.Originally posted by motonomad View Post"Where there is a will there is a way"
Below are the mentioned items i bought of second hand from bangalore's scrap yard aka 'gujri' in shivajinagar and some new ones
1. ZMR right clutch case(second hand)
2. pulsar 220 oil cooler(second hand) = 1500(inclusive of item 1 & 2)
3.o rings= 45
4. ZMR oil cooler pipes = 750
5. p220 oil cooler pipes=500
6. oil cooler hinges and oil cooler cutting and welding = 300
7. labour chrges= 1500
R&D and mods
1. Had both the left and right clutch case powder coated to silver color as ZMR clutch case is some what golden color. Make sure you have it washed properly before giving out to powder coating my mechanic gave the oil plunged case as it is and the etching process was not carried out properly
now the coating is peeling off.
(suggest u keep it as it is wont make much difference)
2. Buy a zmr oil cooler and not p220 as it wont give u an exact fit and as in my case had to install horizontally like p220 and caused impact issues with fender so had to rise the front fork by 1inch (additional cost not mentioned).go for vertical arrangement by welding a clamp and mounting the oil cooler vertically giving you better cooling. I couldnt as i had already installed crash gaurd and fog lamps. Also it will save u amount on p220 oil cooler pipes
3. The zmr does not have kicker so had to cut the kicker shaft yet leave it engaged with gears as gears wont engage without this shaft and zmr clutch case does not have provision for its housing so here on ur bike will become kicker less.
So after all the trial and error my bike looked something like shown in the attached images.
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PS. THIS PROJECT WAS DONE BY ME USING A SKILLED MECHANIC AT MY OWN RISK SO SHOULD ANYONE WHO WANTS TO DO THIS MODIFICATION ON HIS.
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Hi there co-XBHPIAN i have already replied on this thread with images. Regarding your 09 R model i suggest you to a step by step engine flush using a good quality engine flush, then use a semi synthetic oil preferably shell ax7 10w40 for a try and a proper vehicle tune up from a skilled mechanic to reduce engine heat problems, roughness and vibration of engine if any before thinking of going for the mod.
PS : I did this mod on my bike as i am a vivid motorcycle traveller and use my bike for long travells which involves the engine runnning at high rpm for a prolonged period.If you are travelling for short distances no need for this mod as karizma is detuned version of honda crf 230 and has proved its mettle internationally.
I am from bangalore. I would like to see more pictures of your Karizma R and how you have manged to replace the single centre down tube of the Chassis to a double cradle type.
Where did you get this mod done?
How much did it cost?
Can you please share pictures. I would like the same for my Karizma as well.
Thank you.
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Re: Karizma/Karizma R Ownership Experience
Anybody has any experience with this ?
Karizma single map racing CDI.
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Re: Karizma/Karizma R Ownership Experience
Hi All,
I bought a used karizma r 2012 model about 5 months ago has run about 23k kms, I'm using this bike daily for commuting to work(24kms)and I love riding it. Below is the work done so far.
1) Chain sprocket-Hero oe.
2) Battery- Exide 7ah(Battery was good, it died since taillights were continuously on due to a faulty brake switch).
3) Engine oil- Motul 3000,running shell ax7 10w 40 currently,
4) Carb- Complete disassembly and cleaning.(Cleaned it myself since ocd kicked in, Mech said it was already clean , Found pilot jet was clogged now bike starts quickly and idle is steady).
5) Tyres- Front Apollo Actizip F2 2.75-18 , Rear -Apollo Actizip R3 100/90-18.
Now coming to the issues related to the bike.
1) Bike vibrates crazy above 4k rpm, need to find source of this vibration, previous owner has removed stock handlebar weighs and installed unicorn handlebar ends. But foot pegs also vibrate so this can't be the only reason.
2) Rear suspension is very hard due to this I think the rear fairing mounts have broken. Also need to check swing arm bushes along with this.
3) Bike struggles to go above 80 kmph feels like engine is straining or lean. Kicker slides easily, Is the compression less?. Bike doesn't consume oil nor smokes.
4) Speedometer glass(plastic) is broken.
Will work on these issues once the weather clears up. Also have a few mods on mind.
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Re: Engine knocking and engine overheating!
Thanks a lot guys. Appreciate all your help!
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Re: Engine knocking and engine overheating!
Agree to what Ashwin says. It sounds like timing chain or tensioner gone badOriginally posted by SportsTourer View PostHi. I'm gonna get my chain & pads replaced this week. But before that I just need some confirmation that it is the issue, coz I'm gonna spend about 3k.
Please view the video I posted with engine sound, and kindly let me know if this a sound from a bad chain or a if a valve clearance might solve the problem. This video was recorded after a short ride so the engine is warm enough.
Many Thanks!
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Re: Engine knocking and engine overheating!
Hey bro, this is an online forum and since we've not seen your bike in person to diagnose the issue we'd not be able to give you a 100% correct answer irrespective of how many videos or audios we listen to, all we can provide is our suggestions that you may take with a pinch of salt.Originally posted by SportsTourer View PostHi. I'm gonna get my chain & pads replaced this week. But before that I just need some confirmation that it is the issue, coz I'm gonna spend about 3k.
Speaking of which my best guess is the timing chain as well.
Regards,
A.P.
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Re: Engine knocking and engine overheating!
Originally posted by tripping_billie View PostOverheating of a air cooled engine could mean anything actually - from a Lean AFR ratio, to high ambient temperature, to even engine oil that needs replacement, or in your case chain rubbing against the pads. Even carbon in the head could cause hot spots. Air cooled engines are very robust and can withstand a lot of heat. However, if you notice anything out of ordinary do get it checked out
Hi. I'm gonna get my chain & pads replaced this week. But before that I just need some confirmation that it is the issue, coz I'm gonna spend about 3k.
Please view the video I posted with engine sound, and kindly let me know if this a sound from a bad chain or a if a valve clearance might solve the problem. This video was recorded after a short ride so the engine is warm enough.
Many Thanks!
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Re: Engine knocking and engine overheating!
Overheating of a air cooled engine could mean anything actually - from a Lean AFR ratio, to high ambient temperature, to even engine oil that needs replacement, or in your case chain rubbing against the pads. Even carbon in the head could cause hot spots. Air cooled engines are very robust and can withstand a lot of heat. However, if you notice anything out of ordinary do get it checked outOriginally posted by SportsTourer View PostThanks a ton, brother. I'll do as you said and will keep you updated.
My bike does not leak any oil I can guarantee that. I had the O rings changed fairly recently. However, I have not yet observed how much oil engine is drinking. I'll check that. I used Shell 10w40 synthetic oil which should ideally last upto 4-5k kms and I did it fairly recently like a few weeks back. But I can confirm that the engine does overheat after say about 20+kms of city ride in Bangalore to the point where I can feel it on my legs. Is that normal or trouble?
I'll observe the oil level today and will get back to you.
Thank you once again for your quick responses.
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Re: Engine knocking and engine overheating!
Originally posted by tripping_billie View PostIf there are no other symptoms other than noise, I think it should be fine for a few months. However, do keep checking the oil level at least once a week. If the piston and piston rings have slightly gone bad, you may not notice any change in performance most of the time. Checking the oil level will ensure that engine is not starved and chances of engine overheating and seizing is reduced. I have had cases in my RTR wherein some of the oils burned more than others, esp synthetic ones. In case the valve guides are worn out, they could leak too, and let oil into the combustion chamber. If the bike smokes while deceleration, chances are valve guides are gone.
Cam: known as camshaft is driven by the cam or timing chain and has lobes which push the valves down as per the set durations.
Cam chain and timing chain are the same.
Just go easy on the throttle till you get the head opened and worked upon. If the chain is too loose, it could skip few teeth and damage the valves & piston. Ask the mechanic to check the condition of the chain by just opening the head cover, without removing the head or the cylinder & piston.
Thanks a ton, brother. I'll do as you said and will keep you updated.
My bike does not leak any oil I can guarantee that. I had the O rings changed fairly recently. However, I have not yet observed how much oil engine is drinking. I'll check that. I used Shell 10w40 synthetic oil which should ideally last upto 4-5k kms and I did it fairly recently like a few weeks back. But I can confirm that the engine does overheat after say about 20+kms of city ride in Bangalore to the point where I can feel it on my legs. Is that normal or trouble?
I'll observe the oil level today and will get back to you.
Thank you once again for your quick responses.Last edited by SportsTourer; 06-06-2019, 07:19 PM.
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Re: Engine knocking and engine overheating!
If there are no other symptoms other than noise, I think it should be fine for a few months. However, do keep checking the oil level at least once a week. If the piston and piston rings have slightly gone bad, you may not notice any change in performance most of the time. Checking the oil level will ensure that engine is not starved and chances of engine overheating and seizing is reduced. I have had cases in my RTR wherein some of the oils burned more than others, esp synthetic ones. In case the valve guides are worn out, they could leak too, and let oil into the combustion chamber. If the bike smokes while deceleration, chances are valve guides are gone.Originally posted by SportsTourer View PostHi! Thank you for your advice.
Is this something that I need to get done as soon as possible or is it something I can stall for a few months?
Also could you please help me with what you actually meant by cam? Cam chain? Timing chain and cam are different things are they?
Im not thaat techy when it comes to machines sorry for asking too many questions.
I guess the cylinder is fine, like I said pickup is good n running is smooth. And for the smoking part, there was a one off scenario a few days after I had changed my engine oil to fully synthetic where my engine gave out white smoke but never happened again.
I think it could be because the synthetic oil being lighter might have creeped into the combustion chamber. Or you could shed some light on that as well?
Cam: known as camshaft is driven by the cam or timing chain and has lobes which push the valves down as per the set durations.
Cam chain and timing chain are the same.
Just go easy on the throttle till you get the head opened and worked upon. If the chain is too loose, it could skip few teeth and damage the valves & piston. Ask the mechanic to check the condition of the chain by just opening the head cover, without removing the head or the cylinder & piston.
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