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**Braumabull** · 07-16-2011, 11:17 PM

Wow U guys are serious haters, Should have spoken this when he was at his best. No one dared rite, He would shut every criticism up..
What a best way to rule out somebody ignoring his past.

@TZ750: Rossi's ego or the Yamaha's greed. He cares a shit abt his pay. How would one feel when the team mate(with a winning or a strong bike) was giving more preference?

@niranjanvaidya: Well About schumi. Did he even plan to retire?? Want details ?(Sorry for being so informal)F1= politics and tell me how many teams fight for the top? Those cars so different in terms of power.Although I feel he should never have taken a break. How abt Kimi then?Was he bad too???

**Braumabull** · 07-16-2011, 11:24 PM

Originally posted by niranjanvaidya View Post

I might draw a lot of flak with this post but then that's OK as long as people take it in the right spirit.

As much as I love Rossi, a saying by Kenny Roberts keep ringing in my mind when I see Rossi (especially this year). The great KR once said, "When you are in this sport for 10 years or so, something gets used up!".

Is Rossi beginning to fade (I would love to believe 'No')?
Has the competition caught up with Rossi; skill and talent-wise?\
Of late, Rossi has been playing a lot of verbal games in interviews/blogs etc...why does he have to do it? He used to be good at psyching out his rivals on the track...

Google Bayliss. World Superbikes,
That man Beat the shit out of kids on the circuit. Kenny was not just able to do it and nice excuses by him tho. Like yea... thats why KrJr didnt win anymore(I wish kenny would fite, but it was just one race).

Edit: I suppose he's testing the new Ducati(WSBK) and he's not slow nor fading.......
Yea Fading theory. Gradually right??

(Sorry)

**shivank** · 07-16-2011, 11:28 PM

Originally posted by Braumabull View Post

Give Rossi the bike he wants to and then speak.

Waaaaaaoowwwww! That's what exactly Chandhok thinks,'Give me the car(proably,the RBR) I want and then speak'.

Rossi chose to change the bike or did Stoner or Lorenzo bully him on to doing this? Honda won't come to Rossi and ask him to ride their bike just because he finished 16.

Rossi,a true legend he might be,but he did a mistake by switching to Ducati (as of now,he did!).And now when he and his Ducati mates can't solve this mystery of how to keep with Hondas and Yamahas the fury of all the Vale followers goes straight down to Stoner and Lorenzo.That they have fast bikes and composed rides!

Rossi might be the greatest rider ever born but don't think others to be just mere mortals sitting and sliding on fast Hondas or Yamahas.

I truly respect your love for Rossi but this fanboy fever is going a bit overboard now.

**TheRedPill** · 07-16-2011, 11:43 PM

Originally posted by Braumabull

Chandok?? U are and inspiration,Truly(I seriously wish U were my career consulted)

Overboard, U havent seen nothing yet......

You aren't helping your case pal. Keep it cool

keep the healthy discussion continue...

**xionite** · 07-16-2011, 11:44 PM

@Braumabull: no haters here man. relax.

everyone's entitled to their opinion.

Originally posted by Braumabull View Post

when he was at his best. No one dared rite, He would shut every criticism up..

coming soon in 2012.

Originally posted by shivank View Post

Rossi might be the greatest rider ever born but don't think others to be just mere mortals sitting and sliding on fast Hondas or Yamahas.

true. but there's a big difference between...
someone who's won MotoGP once... (Stoner, Nicky, Lorenzo)
and someone who's won MotoGP 6 times. (Rossi, Rossi, Rossi, Rossi, Rossi, Rossi.)

also... i'll say this...
to ANYONE who pulls the greed angle for the VR Yam-Duc switch...

i'm sure VR would like to go past Agostini's 122 race wins.

i'm mean... at 105 wins... why in the world would he get "greedy"?

coz that would mean...
after (a lifetime of) "being the best"... since 1997... (yea...look it up

)

so did he suddenly wake up one morning and think to himself...
"i don't want to be the greatest rider ever... i just want to be rich" ???

eh??

that is what makes me go...

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**shivank** · 07-16-2011, 11:45 PM

@ Brauma..Apologies!

Healthy discussion on,I say..

**Braumabull** · 07-16-2011, 11:47 PM

Originally posted by sumit.pannalall View Post

You aren't helping your case pal. Keep it cool

keep the healthy discussion continue...

Hehe!! I seriously was not giving my 100% while posting. Multitasking,went off track...

**shivank** · 07-16-2011, 11:53 PM

Originally posted by Braumabull View Post

Hehe!! I seriously was not giving my 100% while posting. Multitasking,went off track...

@Shivank:-Not gonna happen.

Dude,you are just boiling for nothing! Chill..

@ Xio..Completely agree with your point.And also,I never said that it was Rossi's greed that he chose to ride Ducati.Those who did got the answer fairly well.:P

**Braumabull** · 07-17-2011, 12:00 AM

Looks so calm, Dust settled

**Mr.Ignoramus** · 07-17-2011, 12:02 AM

It wud be the most disappointin news for VALE fans

. I was very much down after seein todays qualif. wats goin wrong wit the legend.
Let the ALMIGHTY cure "THE DOCTOR"

**niranjanvaidya** · 07-17-2011, 12:02 AM

Originally posted by Braumabull View Post

Google Bayliss. World Superbikes,
That man Beat the shit out of kids on the circuit. Kenny was not just able to do it and nice excuses by him tho. Like yea... thats why KrJr didnt win anymore(I wish kenny would fite, but it was just one race).

Edit: I suppose he's testing the new Ducati(WSBK) and he's not slow nor fading.......
Yea Fading theory. Gradually right??

(Sorry)

Sorry to disappoint you man...Was talking of KR Senior...not the Junior. Fading?...yes...
now?...maybe....
return of the king?...would love it but he has to prove it by finishing a deserving podium for a few races at least...forget winning.

Speaking of F1: FACT IS that MS is a either a distant shadow of his earlier self or the new kids on the block are too good for him. Seriously man, he would have been treated as the king of F1...an immortal had he not returned. Today, he is just a normal driver who used to be a champion.

Regarding Kimi; everyone knows that he was one talented kid till he got confused and never knew what to do.

Fact is, shouting hoarse that VR is the best does no good!! He is a legend no doubt but is he the best at this moment? Maybe/Maybe Not...only time will tell.

**TheRedPill** · 07-17-2011, 12:08 AM

Ok continuing: If you are following motomatters tweets. Seems to be things are really hot in Ducati camp
For those who are not:

Originally posted by motomatters David Emmett

Ducati were not going to test their 1000 at Brno, they'll be testing the 1000 at Misano after the race, when they'll have more new parts.

Originally posted by motomatters David Emmett

So there's a problem with interpretation of the rules as to whether they'll be allowed to test the 800s then.

Originally posted by motomatters David Emmett

Problem is, the Brno test is now an official 1000cc test, as the 800 test planned for Brno got swapped with Mugello, where no 1000s tested.

Originally posted by motomatters David Emmett

Rossi said he wants to try a back-to-back test of the GP11.1 and the GP11.0 (Hayden's bike) at the Brno test on Monday.

Probably same as Colin in Yamaha camp previously, Nicky did the donkey work to bring GP11 to its current competitive level and Rossi will be the beneficiary.

Edit:Looks like more controversy when they test both 1000 and 800 side by side in Brno

Not all the time it is the greed of money it is the glory of winning a GP race with a third manufacturer. Obviously there were other motivational factors that encouraged Rossi to move on. But Rossi and team highly under-estimated the complexity of Ducati's inherent faults...

**bprags** · 07-17-2011, 01:03 AM

Any one betting against Rossi finishing the race with in top ten?

**xionite** · 07-17-2011, 01:18 AM

Originally posted by niranjanvaidya View Post

Fact is, shouting hoarse that VR is the best does no good!!

who's shouting hoarse?

go back through the last few pages...

most of the last few pages had to with responses which claimed that VR was "fading."

something that is most certainly not true.

Originally posted by niranjanvaidya View Post

He is a legend no doubt but is he the best at this moment? Maybe/Maybe Not...only time will tell.

time... and anyone watching any of the 8 races this year will tell you that.

he is not "the best" at the moment.

Originally posted by bprags View Post

Any one betting against Rossi finishing the race with in top ten?

top 8.

**xionite** · 07-17-2011, 01:29 AM

yellow. yellow. yellow. too much yellow is this thread.

before the birdie!

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