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  • #1021
    Originally posted by Krish1417 View Post
    I really respect Aargee Sir,PSR Sir
    Thanks, but just RG is sufficient And I personally think it can be PSR Ji because I inturn have a great respect for him , so you see...just one is sufficient hehe.

    Originally posted by Krish1417 View Post
    I own an RTR 180 and now i think,it would have been better if i would have saved and waited a little more to get the CBR250
    No, there's nothing to regret, if you do. RTR 180 is also a great bike, especially the white one has great looks, has powerful headlights & a great exhaust note. It doesn't matter how fast is your ride, what matters more is how much you cherish the ride; like I still feel pride to ride on my Activa as well as my Rx though I've my CBR. That is bound to happen only when you buy something out of love for what uniqueness the product offers rather than anything else.

    Nithesh - Personally, I feel C150R not only needs correction in price, but also has to offer something that is little different from what's available in the market; the fact is both R15 & N250R are established, but, C250R is completely opposite to what N250R is all about; but that's not the case with R15 & C150R. So you see, C150R has a really tough times ahead, atleast, that's what I feel.
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    • #1022
      Finally the opposite of Yamaha R15 has arrived
      Check the below link for more details:

      Honda CBR150R Bookings Are Open Now | Motoroids
      Yamaha RX100 (1993)
      Yamaha RX135 (2000)
      Bajaj Pulsar 150 (2004)
      Yamaha FZ-25 (2017)
      TVS N-Torq (2018)

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      • #1023
        Originally posted by Dinesh.P View Post
        Finally the opposite of Yamaha R15 has arrived
        I don't think it's opposite; its only a Honda's dream on premium 150's share, nothing else. While KTM is already offering a better not only in pricing but also in value, with P200NS, this is almost dead. May be it sells just for fairings, but then, R15 already has everything what C150R has. I don't know what is unique with C150R except for colors & graphics.
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        • #1024
          Originally posted by aargee View Post
          I call an apple an apple because I'm not a fan boy of any brand nor idolizing anyone (exception Einstein probably); e.g visit the 250R thread, you can see my post saying the front braking is pathetic which HMSI hasn't addressed yet. There's nothing wrong in admitting what's wrong; like they say, there're 3 sides to an argument, your side, my side & the right side, I usually don't like to fall under 1st two. And when people say something incorrect, I'd certainly stand up to clear that up.
          Can't really say that I understand your point, so are you saying CBR150's price is justified or are you saying CBR250 is not that a great product for it's price? or are you saying i'm a fan boy for Duke? Of course, I admit that i'm a fan boy for Duke, more so for Pulsar, just the way they improved over time amazes me.

          I just tried to convey that CBR150 is over priced for what it offers, compared to it CBR250 was fairly priced given the fact that there wasn't a proper choice available in that range. The way you mentioned CBR150 with Duke just caught my attention, that's about it
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          • #1025
            Originally posted by vrugonnab View Post
            so are you saying CBR150's price is justified
            No way!!! The only selling factor for C150R I see is to price it below R15

            Originally posted by vrugonnab View Post
            are you saying CBR250 is not that a great product for it's price?
            It used to be a great product until Duke was launched; ofcourse C250R still has advantages that its a quarter litre made by Jap, fully faired sports bike sold in world wide.

            Originally posted by vrugonnab View Post
            are you saying i'm a fan boy for Duke?
            Well are you? My point on fan boy is simple; be a fan boy of product than a brand, which is more logical.

            Originally posted by vrugonnab View Post
            I just tried to convey that CBR150 is over priced for what it offers
            Wrong!!! C150R is over priced for what it isn't even offering!!! Tell me a significant point where C150R scores over R15 pls?
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            • #1026
              Originally posted by aargee View Post
              No way!!! The only selling factor for C150R I see is to price it below R15
              Exactly, we are on same page then!

              Originally posted by aargee View Post
              It used to be a great product until Duke was launched; ofcourse C250R still has advantages that its a quarter litre made by Jap, fully faired sports bike sold in world wide.
              Agreed, considering that Duke's price is introductory and will soon be hiked, I still believe CBR250 is a great product at that price. More over it's complete contrast to Duke 200 and hence serves a different set of requirements. If anyone is looking for a tourer, then I think it has to be CBR250, I don't mean to say that you can't tour on Duke 200. But if most of the riding happens within city with occasional touring then Duke will sound more practical.

              Originally posted by aargee View Post
              Well are you? My point on fan boy is simple; be a fan boy of product than a brand, which is more logical.
              Without a doubt!


              Originally posted by aargee View Post
              Wrong!!! C150R is over priced for what it isn't even offering!!! Tell me a significant point where C150R scores over R15 pls?
              Two things I can think of are, DOHC engine, don't really know how advantageous this is and perhaps mileage, considering the detuned state of the engine when compared to the version sold in other markets. But, all the same, price is really not justified. It will sell, but not the way it would have sold if it was priced sensibly. This might just go the Jazz way.

              Lot will depend on how P200NS will be priced, if P220S discontinuation is any indication, it would be below 1 lakh OTR (strictly my speculation).
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              • #1027
                Originally posted by aargee View Post
                No way!!! The only selling factor for C150R I see is to price it below R15


                It used to be a great product until Duke was launched; ofcourse C250R still has advantages that its a quarter litre made by Jap, fully faired sports bike sold in world wide.


                Well are you? My point on fan boy is simple; be a fan boy of product than a brand, which is more logical.


                Wrong!!! C150R is over priced for what it isn't even offering!!! Tell me a significant point where C150R scores over R15 pls?
                It has one extra over head cam,does it? DOHC..

                OT: Any idea how its better than SOHC,anyone?
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                • #1028
                  Originally posted by aargee View Post
                  No way!!! The only selling factor for C150R I see is to price it below R15
                  The inclusion/ addiction of doch and over squared config and higher compression may help it more to rev more and freely over the r15 (only a face to face ride test can confirm this authentically though) apart fr0m the comfort, cbr badge(people get attached or affectionate for diff. brands) looks(individualistic) factors
                  and the hondas/ cbrs tend to feel to have more torque while riding no matter what the paper has to say, difference may be in transmission/ less drive train loss/ tuning or whatever it is :P
                  It used to be a great product until Duke was launched; ofcourse C250R still has advantages that its a quarter litre made by Jap, fully faired sports bike sold in world wide.
                  duke is a great product and it'll be competiting against cbr in the market, no matter how track oriented/ fared both cbr and r15 are, look out how much ktm and bajaj are going to hike its price. (Duke is my personal choice from the three, may be u could include 250r to this)

                  Wrong!!! C150R is over priced for what it isn't even offering!!! Tell me a significant point where C150R scores over R15 pls?
                  Think it in Honda's way, the production cost of cbr 250r and 150r may not be much different. one of the reason why duke 125 is not launching here.

                  answers in bold
                  Originally posted by ABikerAtHeart View Post
                  It has one extra over head cam,does it? DOHC..

                  OT: Any idea how its better than SOHC,anyone?
                  This link might help
                  Last edited by mid; 03-17-2012, 10:42 AM. Reason: included somethin
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                  • #1029
                    Originally posted by vrugonnab View Post
                    Agreed, considering that Duke's price is introductory and will soon be hiked, I still believe CBR250 is a great product at that price. More over it's complete contrast to Duke 200 and hence serves a different set of requirements. If anyone is looking for a tourer, then I think it has to be CBR250, I don't mean to say that you can't tour on Duke 200. But if most of the riding happens within city with occasional touring then Duke will sound more practical
                    Agreed with all the points, but still contemplating on "I still believe CBR250 is a great product at that price"; C150R's pricing is very close to 250R. But then, if you look at HMSI's product portfolio, they're one damn people who're catering the entire Nation. I mean soon to come Yuga to scooters to premium segment without anyone's assistance, while making products affordable; which can be looked positively & may also lead to disaster.

                    Originally posted by vrugonnab View Post
                    Without a doubt!
                    And I love such people

                    Originally posted by vrugonnab View Post
                    Two things...go the Jazz way
                    Let's see how C150R fares

                    Originally posted by vrugonnab View Post
                    Lot will depend on how P200NS will be priced
                    IMHO, P200NS will simply eat away a major portion of R15, C150R & C250R or may even the D200.

                    Originally posted by ABikerAtHeart View Post
                    OT: Any idea how its better than SOHC,anyone?
                    Mid's link is fine
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                    • #1030
                      DOHC means Double OverHead
                      Cam, or sometimes it could be
                      called "Twin Cam". A DOHC
                      setup is used in most of newer
                      cars. Since it's possible to install
                      multiple valves per cylinder and
                      place intake valves on the
                      opposite side from exhaust vales,
                      a DOHC engine can "breathe"
                      better, meaning that it can
                      produce more horsepower with
                      smaller engine volume.
                      Compare: The 3.5-liter V6 DOHC
                      engine of 2003 Nissan Pathfinder
                      has 240 hp, similar to 245 hp of
                      the 5.9-liter V8 OHV engine of
                      2003 Dodge Durango.
                      Pros: High efficiency, possible to
                      install multiple valves per
                      cylinder and adopt variable
                      timing.
                      Cons: More complex and more
                      expensive design.
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                      • #1031
                        a DOHC layout is better than a SOHC layout in many ways- in DOHCs, the valve timing is more precise, and better valve lift is achieved. also, a DOHC setup eliminates the need for rocker arms, hence creating better timing, and valve contact is more direct too. but of course, these are all in stock form. a SOHC layout, when tuned, can be as efficient as a DOHC, but under proper tuning, DOHCs always achieve more power than SOHCs...

                        there's not much for the layman. In fact, due to the valvetrain package being heavier on DOHCs, their low-end torque might suffer, making the SOHC a better traffic/daily-drive bet.
                        and the question remains why do i race?
                        every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

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                        (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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                        • #1032
                          DOHC is good but for big engines. In small engines the effect of DOHC is not visible and not a good idea to use it on a 150cc engine since cost would go up with negligible benefits.. Maximum big engines(>=600) employ DOHC layout.
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                          • #1033
                            Doh!!! DOHC reduces stress on the engine!!!
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                            • #1034
                              Hello

                              [QUOTE=aargee;786842]

                              It doesn't matter how fast is your ride, what matters more is how much you cherish the ride; like I still feel pride to ride on my Activa as well as my Rx though I've my CBR. That is bound to happen only when you buy something out of love for what uniqueness the product offers rather than anything else.

                              + 100

                              Short and sweet

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                              • #1035
                                Originally posted by aargee View Post

                                Wrong!!! C150R is over priced for what it isn't even offering!!! Tell me a significant point where C150R scores over R15 pls?
                                Better Top end?
                                Pillion friendly?
                                Exclusivity?(considering R15s are selling like hotcake here and everywhere and i dont see 150R catching up in terms of sales)
                                Better Ergonomics and comfortable upright seating posture for people of all sizes?
                                OH i almost forgot the CNB show's indirect quoting of Honda's 56kmpl efficiency
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