cause i am anti-enthusiastic

build quality of which part or components?
btw don't answer me,answer aargee

AFAIK, these complaints came from the first batch users.
And they were looked into.

I have been seeing 2 CBRs (250 cc ones) in my office parking lot for 5+ months now. Chennai climate being humid, steel parts must have rusted by now.
My Hero Honda engine paint peeled off (talk about HMC's finish), but those CBRs are sparkling new!

Seems they improved. cool

Like the say goes, first impression is the best impression, CBR 250R had a bad impression from start; and its little hard to change that perception with the people going forward.

There's a thread here in xBhp that was to discuss about CBR 250R before it was launched. See the kind of comments what people left there. Most people who commented there were not even the people who could afford for one!!! Let me tell you some examples; visible weld marks, bike doesn't appear big, large panel gaps. All of these were totally crappy statements. I mean, welding is visible even on R15 or even the KTM; bike & appearing big, I don't need to comment as there're enough pics floating around to show which is big; panel gaps, I don't know what to say!!!

Even after so much issues, I only have positive things about the bike. Why?
1. Spares are way affordable than N250R
2. I get perfection; like I keep saying, buying is one time affair, but maintenance is for lifetime, I'm able to maintain, unlike seeking for alternative parts to save.
3. An ASC that is available throughout the country, nothing like, only in the Tier 1 cities
4. I've a quarter liter international sports bike (a bike that is sold even in the developed European countries) for my daily use of 50-60 Kms.

Last but not the least, look anything with open mind & you can easily differentiate between the good & bad instead of being a blind fan boy or hatred towards anything.

PS - No need to answer me, people's attitude are revealed by their posts here

Ya, its a very negative trend being followed these days.
Its more rampant now.

People start brand wars, useless comparos; etc to say the least.

And aargee sir, if the proverb 1st impression == Last impression implies for the auto industry then all products must be deemed a failure.
Its only the initial feedback that helps manufacturers improve their products.

And regarding the pricing, I feel its not over priced. Its tech demands that price.
You've a world class respected product at half the price of its nearest rival, what more?
For the Katoom, this is just the introductory price, it'll be increased soon.

[OT]
Not to start any brand war, but a very well known Auto company has had serious issues with every new launched model of its!
We celebrate the brand, but blame others. Why?
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So ppl who buy splendors/platina/star city wont have right to talk about more expensive bikes it seems.
ASC might be available throught the country but is pathetic. Since 2 months Im searching for a RVM for my stunner bt cant find one. They suggest to use old models
Iv to drive my bike in India so it doesnt matter much its sold in Europe or whatever.
Agreed that newer CBRs dont have build niggles but earlier ones had and there were pics posted by many owners showing rusting signs and paint peel in some places on new bikes. so its not good to hide if the issues were there.
Its good that they worked upon those and are now providing better quality.

these 2 points should be highlighted to prospective cbr buyers.

p.s.-whenever there is any discussion about cbr i find people bashing cbr for build quality.those guys don't understand honda has made possible the dream of owning a international quarter litre affordable bike,otherwise we would only get to admire ninja and don't get to ride a 250 cc.

Loved the way you mentioned C150R there with KTM C150R is overpriced, IMO. CBR250 was actually fairly priced or even under priced for whatever was on offer. After all it offered a choice in the segment where there were no options. I mean for those who wanted something powerful and could spend upto 2 lakhs, there wasn't much choice (apart from RE's). That's exactly the reason why it was received so well.

No one celebrated it. We agree that they have compromised handling refinement and build quality lacks. Lets blame everyone who does fault. why to spare anyone.

that's news to me.

And the reason is...
and you know what? After so much of dilly dally, D200 still came out without chain sliders. Most owner's were confused with the kind of noise the chain made over the swing arm. Some of them even rode in the silence of night to observe. Yet that were all nothing; had it been with CBR, the entire crowd here screams, open a thread & what not?

IMO, there's nothing wrong with it, as long as, they acknowledge their mistake & come forward to correct it; Indica was a crappy product when it was launched, but now, they've improved like a hell over time. This is important & what's more important is, to keep trying for innovations.

BAL for example had so many learning (call it failure if you want) from so many models they launched (able to recall only BYK & Wind). Then they dropped scooters from their portfolio, they clearly distinguished themselves as where they want to go. TVS & HMC on the other hand, were scared of taking risk (despite that TVS had failed models like Centra not sure now, but soon might Jive) & HMC...hardly I can recall anything in recent times. Anyway, those are complete OT!!!

That's your line of thoughts, not mine!!!

What do you think? Is it any better there?

RIDE!!! It does matter for the very reason, if people here are incompetent on fixing any issues, the solutions for the same can be obtained else where. When you've a product sold world wide, you also get the support from world wide.

Well, you expand your world, you see a lot better option

I call an apple an apple because I'm not a fan boy of any brand nor idolizing anyone (exception Einstein probably); e.g visit the 250R thread, you can see my post saying the front braking is pathetic which HMSI hasn't addressed yet. There's nothing wrong in admitting what's wrong; like they say, there're 3 sides to an argument, your side, my side & the right side, I usually don't like to fall under 1st two. And when people say something incorrect, I'd certainly stand up to clear that up.

Yes, your understanding & point is perfect; with the moving times, this pricing needs correction.

I know about the GIR trip and all but why is xbhp too silent on the 150R's review?
I mean we didnt have a proper 250R review either, the existing one was a comparo between the N250R which is a proper full on sports bike vs the C250R which is in a totally different segment so it didnt make any sense there.

Waiting to see what xbhp has to say about the 150R now.

My dear friend, you missed out one important point; xBhp has First Impressions for every bike sold, including Suzuki Slingshot. Guess which bike is missing

Silence...I kill you

P200 NS?


Can you point us to those "reports" please?

And we all wonder at xbhp how somebody's "Reports" without any proof or links go viral and spread a bad word about a product they havent even seen in flesh yet?

Amazing. One guy's random news goes viral and there are already two believers for it :P
Btw what is P200 FS? Full Synthetic? Full saree? please provide some source .. please?