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Same here.Originally posted by Satellite.kid View PostCouldn't understand the review at all
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This is what i could make out from the review.
Ergonomics: Seems to be the same as a cbr250r. Pic speaks for itself.
Acceleration: cbr seems better than V Ixion in Indonesia. (the cbr has lower max torque than the v ixion.)
Handling: Seems sharp and agile(unlike the 250r). No comparisons put.
Suspension: Not as advanced as the link type suspension on the cbr250r but there seems to be no significant difference between ride quality of the both.
Tires: Seems to mention the bridgestone battlax. Not relevant to india. But it also says (i think) that the same type of tires being fitted at the factory on both the 150 and the 250.
Final comments: The review kind of says that its a cbr 250r with a smaller engine and better handling.
EDIT: Sorry for the misleading comparisons of cbr with r15. Didnt realise the r15 has an engine tuned for more power than v ixion. Edited with proper info.Last edited by 2strokerama; 03-21-2012, 10:16 AM.
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The torque is 12.66 NM at 8500 rpm, but that doesn't say much about the rest of the powerband.Originally posted by [IN]BeTrayedxD View PostHello
Guys .
CBR 150 R Torque is 12.66 NM , Right ?
My question is -
1. Will there be drop in pickup , while starting from the Signal Lines ( in doubles ) compared to R15 , Apache 180 , P 220 , ZMR ?
2. I guess its Low end torque will be sluggish than R15 V 2.0. I guess bike will be active from 6 K RPM or above .
( Note - Why i point out this because , when i tested my friend R15 V 2.0 , " although its torque is 15 NM " and In doubles starting from signal point the bike pick up was very sluggish and the bike was active from 5 K RPM and above )
3. Will this CBR monster can hit 100 km/hr in ease ( in doubles ) ?
Note - I know that no one have tested this bike yet . But , i just like to know what's on your mind . What do you guys think?
1. It could well be better than R15 from the signal start up. However, its unlikely to be much better at it, than RTR's and Pulsars due to afterall, being a 150cc only. And, Don't expect it to match ZMA /ZMR's strong pull in any case though.
2. Low end being sluggish than R15? This is not necessary. Remember that we got a figure of 12.66 NM at 8500 rpm. It is possible that due to the low maximum torque value, the bike is stronger & better throughout the range, due to this compromise...
Yes, R15 gets stronger beyond 5000 rpm and then achieves 15 NM @ 7500 because its an engine tuned for the high end power.
In fact, the Maximum torque and power figures signify performance at particular rpms only, not the rest of the powerband. So, its very hard to say anything without getting a proper performance graph which I couldn't find on google.
But, Bike India did report earlier what I already suspected: CBR 150R's torque is spread throughout the range, unlike the R15, BI says.
3. Yes, it should. Easily. As speed and rpm increases, you start feeling the claimed power. Keep it around 7000-9000 rpm and it should feel peppy! In fact, such high-end-tuned engines (like R15, CBR150R) are better at touching big figures than dealing with traffic at low rpm. It gives some 17.8PS @ 10,500 rpm.
Rest we can say, only by test riding it. But believe me guys, Figures are so deceptive that you may be proved wrong later on if you make statements based on them...---
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Interesting.Originally posted by Samarth 619 View PostThe torque is 12.66 NM at 8500 rpm, but that doesn't say much about the rest of the powerband.
1. It could well be better than R15 from the signal start up. However, its unlikely to be much better at it, than RTR's and Pulsars due to afterall, being a 150cc only. And, Don't expect it to match ZMA /ZMR's strong pull in any case though.
2. Low end being sluggish than R15? This is not necessary. Remember that we got a figure of 12.66 NM at 8500 rpm. It is possible that due to the low maximum torque value, the bike is stronger & better throughout the range, due to this compromise...
Yes, R15 gets stronger beyond 5000 rpm and then achieves 15 NM @ 7500 because its an engine tuned for the high end power.
In fact, the Maximum torque and power figures signify performance at particular rpms only, not the rest of the powerband. So, its very hard to say anything without getting a proper performance graph which I couldn't find on google.
But, Bike India did report earlier what I already suspected: CBR 150R's torque is spread throughout the range, unlike the R15, BI says.
But I'm still skepticle.
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cbr will be sluggish.Originally posted by [IN]BeTrayedxD View Post1. Will there be drop in pickup , while starting from the Signal Lines ( in doubles ) compared to R15 , Apache 180 , P 220 , ZMR ?
Originally posted by [IN]BeTrayedxD View Post2.track bikes have the nature of having torque and power @ high rpm range. after 5k the lag disappears.Originally posted by [IN]BeTrayedxD View PostI guess its Low end torque will be sluggish than R15 V 2.0. I guess bike will be active from 6 K RPM or above .
( Note - Why i point out this because , when i tested my friend R15 V 2.0 , " although its torque is 15 NM " and In doubles starting from signal point the bike pick up was very sluggish and the bike was active from 5 K RPM and above )
yeah sure,why will it struggle?Originally posted by [IN]BeTrayedxD View Post3. Will this CBR monster can hit 100 km/hr in ease ( in doubles ) ?and the question remains why do i race?
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opinion based on r 15 's performance off the signal compared to rtr,220.Originally posted by aargee View PostWTH!!! Have you tested it? Is it an opinion or fact?and the question remains why do i race?
every finishing line is the begining of a new race.
#i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
#overkill is underrated.
#how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
#i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road
(:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.
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So its only an opinion? Did you want the facts?Originally posted by sayank10 View Postopinion based on r 15 's performance off the signal compared to rtr,220.
Torque plays a more from stand still to movement...
RTR 180 - 15.50NM @6500 RPM (124)
P220 - 19.12NM @7000 RPM (131)
HH ZMR - 18.35NM @6000 RPM (110)
C250R - 22.90NM @7000 RPM (149)
R15 - 15.00NM @7500 RPM (116)
The numbers in the brackets are BHP per tonne; I leave the option to you, if you want to reconsider!!!
PS - If you're talking about CBR 150R (but again, you cannot witness C150R at signal, atleast in India)
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are you took it all wrong ,i was talking about 150.Originally posted by aargee View PostSo its only an opinion? Did you want the facts?
Torque plays a more from stand still to movement...
RTR 180 - 15.50NM @6500 RPM (124)
P220 - 19.12NM @7000 RPM (131)
HH ZMR - 18.35NM @6000 RPM (110)
C250R - 22.90NM @7000 RPM (149)
R15 - 15.00NM @7500 RPM (116)
The numbers in the brackets are BHP per tonne; I leave the option to you, if you want to reconsider!!!
PS - If you're talking about CBR 150R (but again, you cannot witness C150R at signal, atleast in India)
C150R - 12.66 @8500 RPM (127)
now 220 sure beats 150 cbr.and the question remains why do i race?
every finishing line is the begining of a new race.
#i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
#overkill is underrated.
#how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
#i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road
(:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.
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the guy asked for just opinion,no facts.so i was stating my opinion.
secondly i pitched it against rtr and 220 and assumed cbr will perform just like r15 @lower rpms.
the guy was actually asking cbr's performance with 2 up.so now considering rtr and 220 have so much low and mid-range torque they will be quicker off the signal with 2 up.and the question remains why do i race?
every finishing line is the begining of a new race.
#i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
#overkill is underrated.
#how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
#i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road
(:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.
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i am not forbidding you from giving opinion but that statement will make you look like stupid.Originally posted by aargee^^^ In that case, can we give an opinion that a Scooty pep can perform just like R15...if opinions were to be taken out of thin air
Just asking, no offense meant, esp to you Sayankand the question remains why do i race?
every finishing line is the begining of a new race.
#i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
#overkill is underrated.
#how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
#i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road
(:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.
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yeah i feel like stupid arguing with aargee.Originally posted by aargeeSomething closer to it is what it looks nowand the question remains why do i race?
every finishing line is the begining of a new race.
#i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
#overkill is underrated.
#how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
#i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road
(:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.
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anyways rg what is the power to weight ratio of r15,rtr 180, and 220s.and the question remains why do i race?
every finishing line is the begining of a new race.
#i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
#overkill is underrated.
#how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
#i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road
(:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.
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