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**saipranav** · 03-21-2012, 07:52 AM

Originally posted by sayank10 View Post

i am not forbidding you from giving opinion but that statement will make you look like stupid.

If every idiot on having an internet connection gives his bloody opinion about every damn thing, then this forum will be a mess with a huge pile of baseless opinions and no facts...
So, why don't we all just STFU and wait for some people to write a review on it.
I'll take the initiative and stop posting on this thread until i actually have something sensible to post

**discover** · 03-21-2012, 08:11 AM

I have booked R15 V2 a month back.. I was unhappy about the pillon seat of R15.. Now that CBR150 has been launched should i consider this?.. When we compare specifications which is the best ?.. wat about the engine of CBR150 will it be as good as R15?..

**Mik** · 03-21-2012, 08:13 AM

Any "opinion" not based on some sound reasoning is just noise.
A lot of it is there in this thread because serial posters cannot post on the pulsar 200NS thread (it was locked because of similar freewheeling fb type conversations going around with nothing concrete)

**[IN]BeTrayedxD** · 03-21-2012, 01:19 PM

Thank you very much for sharing your Opinion

Originally posted by Samarth 619 View Post

The torque is 12.66 NM at 8500 rpm, but that doesn't say much about the rest of the powerband.

1. It could well be better than R15 from the signal start up. However, its unlikely to be much better at it, than RTR's and Pulsars due to afterall, being a 150cc only. And, Don't expect it to match ZMA /ZMR's strong pull in any case though.

2. Low end being sluggish than R15? This is not necessary. Remember that we got a figure of 12.66 NM at 8500 rpm. It is possible that due to the low maximum torque value, the bike is stronger & better throughout the range, due to this compromise...

Yes, R15 gets stronger beyond 5000 rpm and then achieves 15 NM @ 7500 because its an engine tuned for the high end power.

In fact, the Maximum torque and power figures signify performance at particular rpms only, not the rest of the powerband. So, its very hard to say anything without getting a proper performance graph which I couldn't find on google.

But, Bike India did report earlier what I already suspected: CBR 150R's torque is spread throughout the range, unlike the R15, BI says.

3. Yes, it should. Easily. As speed and rpm increases, you start feeling the claimed power. Keep it around 7000-9000 rpm and it should feel peppy! In fact, such high-end-tuned engines (like R15, CBR150R) are better at touching big figures than dealing with traffic at low rpm. It gives some 17.8PS @ 10,500 rpm.

Rest we can say, only by test riding it. But believe me guys, Figures are so deceptive that you may be proved wrong later on if you make statements based on them...

Thank you very much for sharing your Personal Opinion

Cheers S.V.Prasad

Always Ride with Complete Riding Gears and Don't Violate the Speed Limits

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**[IN]BeTrayedxD** · 03-21-2012, 01:23 PM

Thank you very much for sharing your Opinion

@ sayank10

Thank you very much for sharing your Personal Opinion

Cheers S.V.Prasad

Always Ride with Complete Riding Gears and Don't Violate the Speed Limits

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@ Aagree

I already pointed out this -

Note - I know that no one have tested this bike yet . But , i just like to know what's on your mind . What do you guys think ?

Comments are appreciated

And i request you guys to stop arguing . " If you don't like his post means , Just ignore it " . I request you guys to not to provoke a war here ( Common to all Guys including Myself

Cheers S.V.Prasad

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**sayank10** · 03-21-2012, 01:36 PM

Originally posted by aargee View Post

So its only an opinion? Did you want the facts?
Torque plays a more from stand still to movement...
RTR 180 - 15.50NM @6500 RPM (124)
P220 - 19.12NM @7000 RPM (131)
HH ZMR - 18.35NM @6000 RPM (110)
C250R - 22.90NM @7000 RPM (149)
R15 - 15.00NM @7500 RPM (116)

The numbers in the brackets are BHP per tonne; I leave the option to you, if you want to reconsider!!!

PS - If you're talking about CBR 150R (but again, you cannot witness C150R at signal, atleast in India)
C150R - 12.66 @8500 RPM (127)

correction
p220f=140/p220s=142.
r15=130.
cbr 150 r=129.

Originally posted by saipranav View Post

If every idiot on having an internet connection gives his bloody opinion about every damn thing,

you are all missing a point.
the guy actually asked for opinion as we don't have any road-test yet.

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@ Aagree 

I already pointed out this -

Note - I know that no one have tested this bike yet . But , i just like to know what's on your mind . What do you guys think ?

Comments are appreciated

And i request you guys to stop arguing . " If you don't like his post means , Just ignore it " . I request you guys to not to provoke a war here ( Common to all Guys including Myself

Cheers S.V.Prasad

Originally posted by Mik View Post

A lot of it is there in this thread because serial posters cannot post on the pulsar 200NS thread (it was locked because of similar freewheeling fb type conversations going around with nothing concrete)

i know you are pointing at me.
there are many threads where fb type chat is going on,mods should take care of all those threads too.

**ABikerAtHeart** · 03-21-2012, 01:53 PM

Originally posted by sayank10 View Post

correction
p220f=140/p220s=142.
r15=130.
cbr 150 r=129.

you are all missing a point.
the guy actually asked for opinion as we don't have any road-test yet.

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@ Aagree 

I already pointed out this -

Note - I know that no one have tested this bike yet . But , i just like to know what's on your mind . What do you guys think ?

Comments are appreciated

And i request you guys to stop arguing . " If you don't like his post means , Just ignore it " . I request you guys to not to provoke a war here ( Common to all Guys including Myself

Cheers S.V.Prasad

i know you are pointing at me.
there are many threads where fb type chat is going on,mods should take care of all those threads too.

Someone post the calculations of bhp per ton.

**sayank10** · 03-21-2012, 02:00 PM

Comparison of the Power to Weight Ratios of Motorcycles of India: 2011 | Bike Chronicles of India
ps per ton figures.

**ABikerAtHeart** · 03-21-2012, 02:16 PM

Originally posted by sayank10 View Post

Comparison of the Power to Weight Ratios of Motorcycles of India: 2011 | Bike Chronicles of India
ps per ton figures.

Says he'll post the calculations in the next post. Did he?

Using phone to browse shucks!

**2strokerama** · 03-21-2012, 02:21 PM

Originally posted by sayank10 View Post

you are all missing a point.
the guy actually asked for opinion as we don't have any road-test yet.

Its a nice game guessing which horse will win the race, but you never know which, till one crosses the finish line. Its a 50\50 chance for all horses to win. You might win the pool, you might lose all your money on the bet.

Same with our opinions(for now).....unless we reason out our 'opinions' with more than 50% accuracy, its useless to that guy or anyone else.

If someone decides to run a betting game here, then im also game for random speculations.

But I have to say samarth 619s point reasoning the low max torque is very digestible... i.e ...12 odd nm of torque being evenly distributed or gradually rising throughout the rev range as against a sharp rise towards the point of max torque.

**sayank10** · 03-21-2012, 02:23 PM

the list is there.
he wrote that he will post the method of calculation later.

**abhisheksircar** · 03-21-2012, 04:20 PM

**ABikerAtHeart** · 03-21-2012, 04:32 PM

R15 17.67bhp??

**arjunb25** · 03-21-2012, 07:58 PM

Well what I have learnt the bookings of current cbr 250 std has been stopped reason the company has made more of cbr 250 abs with old fittings and that's the reason why we all r not getting the std as they r promoting the abs rather than the std version

**ravi@17bhp** · 03-21-2012, 08:26 PM

Many of us are expecting the CBR150R to be sluggish due to its low peak torque. One can't just figure out the behavior of the engine just on the peak figures. It all depends on the torque curve throughout the RPM range. Nobody knows what amount of toruqe CBR150R produces at lower RPM range, hence its premature to say the bike would be sluggish. If CBR150R has good linear torque at lower RPMs than R15, surely CBR150R can beat R-15 at traffic signal.

CBR150 is launched mostly to counter the R-15. Honda would definitely see that its performance stays in the same league as R15. Lets wait for the some test results.

This article may be helpful in understanding torque and power.

Quote from the article: "So, which is more important - torque or horsepower? Well, both are important, but torque at the drive wheels is what's really important to the performance of your vehicle."

http://www.rubydist.com/Family/Power.html

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