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**Shubz** · 12-17-2011, 01:34 AM

Originally posted by kaynmantis View Post

I think as far as new pulsar is concern, it may be more or less much like current pulsar I.e. sports-commuter(pillion friendly)-tourer-performance-street etc. difference being more modern in design.

+1! I agree to this. Pulsar would definitely be more "aam aadmi" type though ultra-modern. Add "pillion friendly" than the Duke!

Then there is also the Oil cooled v/s Air cooled - Another major difference to the cost factor.

**Nithesh** · 12-17-2011, 01:50 AM

Originally posted by vrugonnab View Post

Is that your assumption? apparently an illogical one, Bajaj will make sure that there is enough to differentiate between Pulsar & Duke, be it on equipment levels or performance levels, so that any tom, dick and harry can understand what they stand for. Pulsar was, is & always will stand for affordable performance, while Duke will slug it out with premium category i.e. CBR/R15. Why do you think they are going to produce a dud in terms of sales by bringing in competition from their own stables?

I was talking from the "Mango Man's" point of view. How many people do you think buy any vehicle in this country based on the gauges and performance figures?

Originally posted by kaynmantis View Post

Can't say exactly what category but Duke and R15 does not belong in the same category.

Did i even remotely suggest that the R15 and Duke belong to the same category?
The Duke is a stunters delight whereas the R15 is a track delight

**antz.bin** · 12-17-2011, 01:59 AM

Originally posted by Nithesh View Post

I was talking from the "Mango Man's" point of view. How many people do you think buy any vehicle in this country based on the gauges and performance figures?

Exactly!! Mango people buy bikes according to how much money they want to flaunt. Thats the reason people buy R15s and then curse the bike on day 1 that it doesn't pull as well as their old ZMA.

If someone has moolah for the Duke, there is no way he would go for the Pulsar instead. So that way, the Duke need not worry.

I only hope that the new Pulsars do not lose qualities of the old one namely:
1. Being inexpensive to buy, keep and run
2. Being fast no matter what the terrain
3. Being steady in cross-winds
4. Excellent Illumination at night
5. Able to maintain a healthy cruise speed
6. Excellent tank range

**kaynmantis** · 12-17-2011, 02:10 AM

Originally posted by Nithesh View Post

Any Tom Dick and Harry can differentiate between a fully faired sports/performance bike(R15) and a naked/semi faired street bike(FZ/Fazer).

The Katoom and the pulsars are two naked bikes that fall into the same "sports/peformance bike" category.

Originally posted by Nithesh View Post

Did i even remotely suggest that the R15 and Duke belong to the same category?
The Duke is a stunters delight whereas the R15 is a track delight

Dont mean to sound harsh, but i can't remotely guess that you are using the exact same description to describe two different categories. Would I? Yes, I understand, sometimes what we meant isn't exactly what we said. This perhaps is one of those. Needless to mention, I do that often myself.

**lockhrt999** · 12-17-2011, 02:39 AM

Originally posted by antz.bin View Post

I only hope that the new Pulsars do not lose qualities of the old one namely:
1. Being inexpensive to buy, keep and run
2. Being fast no matter what the terrain
3. Being steady in cross-winds
4. Excellent Illumination at night
5. Able to maintain a healthy cruise speed
6. Excellent tank range

7. being quick. 0-60 in 5 seconds.
8. Offering more bhp per cc. Bajaj already offers 2 bhp more than hero and 1 bhp more than yamaha and honda in air cooled 150cc business.
9. And of course the throttle response.
10. oops can't forget comfortness too.

**Naveen1985** · 12-17-2011, 03:52 AM

Originally posted by lockhrt999 View Post

7. being quick. 0-60 in 5 seconds.
8. Offering more bhp per cc. Bajaj already offers 2 bhp more than hero and 1 bhp more than yamaha and honda in air cooled 150cc business.
9. And of course the throttle response.
10. oops can't forget comfortness too.

both cbz and hunk are 14.4 bhp....i dont think pulsar engine produces 16.4 bhp of power....

**Dman** · 12-17-2011, 08:12 AM

Originally posted by Naveen1985 View Post

both cbz and hunk are 14.4 bhp....i dont think pulsar engine produces 16.4 bhp of power....

but then again the ug4.5 pulsar 150 boasts of a 15.06ps of power and considering the fact that these figures are from 150cc mill and that too a simple air cooled 2valver is a respectable figure and the highest in the category of air cooled 150cc sports commuters.And is the second most powerful 150 cc machine after the R15...as you all would be knowing

**Dman** · 12-17-2011, 08:25 AM

Originally posted by antz.bin View Post

Exactly!! Mango people buy bikes according to how much money they want to flaunt. Thats the reason people buy R15s and then curse the bike on day 1 that it doesn't pull as well as their old ZMA.

If someone has moolah for the Duke, there is no way he would go for the Pulsar instead. So that way, the Duke need not worry.

I only hope that the new Pulsars do not lose qualities of the old one namely:
1. Being inexpensive to buy, keep and run
2. Being fast no matter what the terrain
3. Being steady in cross-winds
4. Excellent Illumination at night
5. Able to maintain a healthy cruise speed
6. Excellent tank range

lets hope that all those qualities get retained in the new pulsar and especially the original 18 liter fuel tank at least just to get that brawny and the most hooligan characteristic element of the classic twins back into the pulsar.

**ajaskochi** · 12-17-2011, 10:02 AM

yesterday , just asked an officer at the BAJAJ area Office in Kochi , Who came to my Shop . He told first the KTM duke will be launched by FEB & then the Updated Pulsar range of which 220 will be launched first

**vikhyath** · 12-17-2011, 10:05 AM

Originally posted by Naveen1985 View Post

both cbz and hunk are 14.4 bhp....i dont think pulsar engine produces 16.4 bhp of power....

Both CBZ and hunk produce 14.4 PS which is different from 14.4 Bhp by a certain margin.

**kaynmantis** · 12-17-2011, 11:22 AM

Originally posted by vikhyath View Post

Both CBZ and hunk produce 14.4 PS which is different from 14.4 Bhp by a certain margin.

Guessing thats a typo.

**Satyamzma** · 12-17-2011, 12:34 PM

Originally posted by Dman View Post

.And is the second most powerful 150 cc machine after the R15...as you all would be knowing

You are Forgetting Apache 160 RTR which is Faster then P150

in acceleration as well as Top Speed ..

**Omid Adab** · 12-17-2011, 02:44 PM

Originally posted by ajaskochi View Post

yesterday , just asked an officer at the BAJAJ area Office in Kochi , Who came to my Shop . He told first the KTM duke will be launched by FEB & then the Updated Pulsar range of which 220 will be launched first

WTF new range of p220

hope it doesnt make me cry coz i jst got mine in sept
hopefully no big changes

he didnt give ny idea of this new bike did he ???

**Omid Adab** · 12-17-2011, 02:48 PM

Originally posted by Satyamzma View Post

You are Forgetting Apache 160 RTR which is Faster then P150

in acceleration as well as Top Speed ..

it talking abt 150cc then he is talking f the apache 150.... 160 u can compare with fzs... dont giv a post saying that its only 10cc coz even that can bring 1-2 bhp performance changes....
example is the joels 230cc engine that increases bhp by 1-2 hp

**Krish1417** · 12-17-2011, 03:11 PM

Originally posted by Omid Adab View Post

it talking abt 150cc then he is talking f the apache 150.... 160 u can compare with fzs... dont giv a post saying that its only 10cc coz even that can bring 1-2 bhp performance changes....
example is the joels 230cc engine that increases bhp by 1-2 hp

With FZ?It pumps around 14bhp,which is less than the pulsar 150.Then how it can be compared with Apache 160.We don't have any other 160cc bikes,so it falls under the 150cc bracket.

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